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Elisk
6th August 2003, 11:11 PM
Thinking about the BT guide in Grabbed by the Ghoulies:


http://jinjomatrix.t35.com/jinjomatrix/guide_black.jpg


"Conker: Live and Uncut, one of Rare's new titles on X-Box, will feature an expanded version of the original game, Conker's Bad Fur Day. It will include new chapters, many of the scenes rumoured to have been vetoed by Nintendo, and the profanity would presumably be left in uncensored. All well and good that is, but this is a Banjo site, so how does this relate? Rare decided to reuse one of its games, so it's possible that it might for Banjo-Tooie.

An image from Grabbed by the Ghoulies shows a couple Banjo-Tooie strategy guides stuffed into a bottom drawer. Developed by the Banjo team, Grabbed by the Ghoulies also has ghoulish trophy heads of Banjo, Kazooie, and Conga, but the strategy guide suggests more than just a fun crossover between Rare games. I checked around and neither Prima nor Nintendo's guides look like the one shown in the drawer. The top of the guide looks green and black in the screenshot and in the top right of the guide it looks like X-Box's trademark X encased in a circle. Now that might not be significant in the least seeing that MGS now owns the Banjo franchise and putting Nintendo's logo in there would be folly. Or, could it be a taste of "Banjo-Threeie?" Since Rare is doing CBFD over as Conker: Live and Uncut without the restraints of Nintendo, Rare might do the same thing for other franchises, such as Banjo. So then I checked out what X-Box guides look like, and the top of that Halo guide looks pretty similar to the Tooie guide. Personally, if Rare remade any games in the Banjo series I'd like it to be Banjo-Kazooie, not Tooie.

If it were remade, what would Banjo-Tooie Uncut include? Maybe some better graphics, a live hookup, and some more secrets. Gruntilda, unlike in Banjo-Kazooie, was a virtual no-show in Tooie save cutscenes, so maybe her role would be expanded. Banjo-Tooie wasn't a very adult sort of game like CBFD was and I can't see anything being censored from it, so maybe it's just an easter egg. I hope Tooie isn't remade, but then I'm just thinking outloud here."

Falcovsleon20
7th August 2003, 06:16 PM
I'd like to see both games remade for Xbox. That way we finally get our beloved Stop N Swop since I doubt it'll be hard to pull it off on a console like Xbox unlike a system like N64.

Gold Jinjo
7th August 2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Elisk
I hope Tooie isn't remade, but then I'm just thinking outloud here."

Are you insane? Banjo-Tooie was just as great as Banjo-Kazooie, if not better. And don't say it didn't have the "same feel"... it's a sequel... it's not supposed to have the same feel. Banjo-Tooie was much more innovative, too. Not to mention more darker than the first.

If Banjo-Threeie were a remake, you'd be damn glad BT was included.

That's just my opinions though... :p

Gaming Master2k
7th August 2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Gold Jinjo
That's just my opinions though... :p

I agree with you 110%. How else do sequels get better? by changing them from the first.

banjordan
7th August 2003, 07:46 PM
That is definately BT, you can clearly see the "Tooie", the character arrangement on the cover is exactly as the strategy guide.
Maybe if they release BT on Xbox, they'll include the worlds of BK very well hidden (accessible through Grunty's old lair) so you can go back with BT's moves and collect the secrets.

Kirbys Warpstar
8th August 2003, 03:46 AM
Did you ever consider that BOTH may be included? I'm sure that XBOXs size isn't just for show you know.

Now for a poem!

We all really like Banjo-Kazooie
Just as much as Banjo-Tooie
When Nintendo sold RARE SnS went Kablooie!
But somehow I hope they will get through e

*booed of the stage*

Falcovsleon20
8th August 2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Kirbys Warpstar
Did you ever consider that BOTH may be included? I'm sure that XBOXs size isn't just for show you know.


That's exactly what I just said.

DYNAMITE
8th August 2003, 06:27 PM
BT being as good as BK!? That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. They arent even close. BK had this feel that BT wasnt able to provide. Plus BT was so much harder. I havent even finished the game. I stopped at like 68 jiggys and used a cheat to get to fight grunty. Plus the final boss battle was dumb.... she made you answer trivia..... what the heck is with that.

Elisk
8th August 2003, 09:14 PM
"Answer trivia?" Did you even play Banjo-Kazooie? Because I'd sure classify Grunty's Furnace Fun under the same category as the Tower of Tragedy quiz. I will agree that BT felt more like a chore than BK did, but I would have still finished the game.