Banjo-Kazooie: The Crystal Jiggy (A Fan Game in Production)

[kingpaco]

I just went through and read all the posts in this thread from April onward, and it really looks like people were looking forward to this project getting finished. It would be a shame to let them down, you know? Well I, for one, am back and ready to help nudge this game along as long as the rest of you still want to go through with it. I don't know how much I can do right now, but I suppose the best thing to do at the moment is to start generating conversation on here again.

Bkp- I still like the idea of making our own game, but it is your call as to what order you want to do all of this in. I could go either way.

Viku- I always liked your drawings! Bkp was right though. You did start to become really active when the project first started to simmer down, so your drawings didn't get nearly as much attention as they deserved. Keep up the good work though! :)

Mojobojo- That package thing you were talking about sounds like it could go over really well. I have little technical know-how though, so take that for whatever it's worth.

[banjokazowizard]

can I direct everyone to these youtube videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-HlOIXbMqU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0O6VzinLY&feature=related

I was pretty impressed when I saw these, somebody elses take on a 3d fan game

[mojobojo]

can I direct everyone to these youtube videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-HlOIXbMqU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0O6VzinLY&feature=related

I was pretty impressed when I saw these, somebody elses take on a 3d fan game

Yes I saw that on Rarewitchcentral, I was impressed too. I'm hoping it goes somewhere good.

[Siege]

Woah... This is really coming along

[kingpaco]

Wow...that is really impressive! If only we could get our project here moving like that. Think of how amazing it would be! I'm definitely going to look more into this when I get some spare time this week. I already glanced at that guy's thread on RWC and I was thinking that maybe we can collaborate with him if this doesn't go anywhere anytime soon. That's if he wants to and we on this project want to of course.

[mojobojo]

Wow...that is really impressive! If only we could get our project here moving like that. Think of how amazing it would be! I'm definitely going to look more into this when I get some spare time this week. I already glanced at that guy's thread on RWC and I was thinking that maybe we can collaborate with him if this doesn't go anywhere anytime soon. That's if he wants to and we on this project want to of course.

Id love to get this going. Maybe we could get just the main engine going. Just have a ground with banjo sitting in the middle and do some testing. That seems to be the best approach to starting with the game.

[kingpaco]

Agreed. We need someplace to start. I just read through the whole thread on RWC and I am feeling inspired now :D

Additionally, I think I'm going to offer to help come up with ideas for Milun to implement in that project if he will have me. I won't take any of the ideas discussed in this thread, including my own, so no worries there. On that same note though, Milun did say something about making some sort of level editor at some point, so if we are still having problems here, maybe we can use that? I know blender was mentioned a long time ago in this thread, and he seems to be working wonders with that and bottles's glasses at the moment.

I don't know who is left of TCJ project right now, but I say we gather whoever is left and try to revamp this. It would be a shame to let all of these good ideas go to waste.

[mojobojo]

I think we should keep it as close to the N64 gameplay and looks as close as possible. I think we should use models from the game. Anyone agree?

[kingpaco]

It seems to be working just fine for the BKE project, so I'm for it. Any progress, even in the smallest details, is good progress at this point.

[mojobojo]

It seems to be working just fine for the BKE project, so I'm for it. Any progress, even in the smallest details, is good progress at this point.

I will even be willing to export all of the models (excluding the characters until cooliscool an get the exporting right).

[TrophyThomas]

If anyone needs any more concept art, I'll lend a hand. I've got nothing else to do!

[kingpaco]

I will even be willing to export all of the models (excluding the characters until cooliscool an get the exporting right).
If you can do that then great :). Sorry, I don't have much knowledge about how we could "make" this game in a technical sense, but it sounds like you could defininitely help in that department. We need to get some more people back into this project again so things can start flowing a little more smoothly.

TT: It would be nice to have you on board. Do you have some examples of what you can do?

[B-Kpianist]

Im sorry i havent been around guys, my family problems are really taking its toll on me... =/

[Weldar-Kazooie]

Im sorry i havent been around guys, my family problems are really taking its toll on me... =/

It's fine, really! Issues are issues, and they should be dealt with before anything else. Take your time, I'm sure we all can understand. :)

[kingpaco]

It's fine, really! Issues are issues, and they should be dealt with before anything else. Take your time, I'm sure we all can understand. :)
^This

As much as we would like to see you a little more around here, we understand that there are some things like this that just simply take higher priority. Don't worry about this project. I'm sure we can start to get things moving more while you are away, and you can jump back in whenever you are ready.

I hope things clear up for you soon Bkp. I really do.

[mojobojo]

@Programmer's
whoever is working on the coding aspect of this game, we really should be getting the main part of the game going. Maybe we can get just a test map going.

@Artists/Writers
We should really be getting everything into a story-board type thing.

[B-Kpianist]

I may be able to start on music again soon. If everything flows well in my life, i can get my music equipment back and get back into composing. I'll be following this closely while I'm out. :)

[mojobojo]

I may be able to start on music again soon. If everything flows well in my life, i can get my music equipment back and get back into composing. I'll be following this closely while I'm out. :)

Good Good, take care of your life first we've all been there. I just REALLY want to see some progress.

[Smouvy]

Sorry, but to me it just looks rude asking for progress if the project leader is in the middle of getting kicked out of his house, being disgusted by his parents and so on.

[B-Kpianist]

No, no... it's okay. I'd love to see this moving. I see where you're coming from though, Smouvy... but it's totally cool. He's a team member anyways :)

[Cooki-Cooki]

He's now a leader, I gave him my position, my time to work on this game is now very scarce, and he was the most fittable for the position.

[Mombi Jombo]

how about use any of The 13 Most Unintentionally Disturbing Children's Toys in thr game http://www.cracked.com/article_17493_13-most-unintentionally-disturbing-childrens-toys.html

[rover-T]

I'd be willing to help with modeling worlds.

By the way, are these new worlds going to be variations on the originals, or are they going to be completely original? If they are variations, I know I would be able to make it look pretty good... hehe.

[Cooki-Cooki]

I'd be willing to help with modeling worlds.

By the way, are these new worlds going to be variations on the originals, or are they going to be completely original? If they are variations, I know I would be able to make it look pretty good... hehe.

Completely original.

[TrophyThomas]

I'm sorry I haven't gotten around to showing any of my art, but my computer got the Blue Screen of Death. I'll be able to post them once it's fixed.

[rover-T]

My computer isn't working too well... I may not be able to do modeling anymore, but I can do a bit of textures.

[KlungoMaster]

The game sounds good

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Are the "Concept Artists/Creative People" handling the script and writing? If so, I would LOVE helping out. If you'd like, I can give you lots of samples of my work. ;p

[Kremling]

I could probably assist you guys for this project. I don't have any c++ knowledge, but I can draw designs and help with ideas I suppose.

[B-Kpianist]

Is anything getting worked on? I saw this on YouTube and was wondering if anyone was actually doing anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgrdA8pIVQs

[SnsSeeker13]

It doesn't look like anybody has been working on it lately. The forums we have set up for the game have pretty much been dead for a few months now, and this thread only gets an occasional post, usually from somebody urging us to continue, or wanting to help with the design/concept art parts of the game.

[B-Kpianist]

Aww- that's too bad, i think we had some potential... =/ Then again, we're all so busy, so I suppose it's understandable.

[Weldar-Kazooie]

Aww- that's too bad, i think we had some potential... =/ Then again, we're all so busy, so I suppose it's understandable.

You guys do have potential, a lot of it! It's simply a very bad time to be working on the project right now, many people are busy with their lives and such.

[SnsSeeker13]

The longer we wait, the harder it'll be to start up again, since most of the crew will have forgotten about the game, or will have lost interest. If we're going to do anything to keep this game from being another idea that never amounted to anything, we should probably do it soon.

[kingpaco]

Most of the crew seems to have already called it quits, so the chances of this lifting off again are slim to none. :(

[itsmeyouidiot]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....


*Gasp*

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo...

*Huff, Hurf*

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[mojobojo]

The question is who is willing to still work on this?

[Keegan]

ME.

^_^

[B-Kpianist]

I definitely am.

[mojobojo]

Anybody else? I really x10 want us to get working on something.

[Zondekel]

I'm still willing to work on the story's script...

[frankieforever]

PLEASE MAKE A DEMO! ITS BEEN WAAAAAY TOOO LONG

[SnsSeeker13]

I'm still willing to help.

[mojobojo]

Do we have any programmers left? I cant remember who was programming.

[Sekna]

I do remember Cooki was a programmer, he asked me for some C++ help, I tried. :P

Anyway I would help guys but as my sig says I am making a game of this degree. Otherwise I would help as much as I could. But for now I can only help the programmers. :(
Ask me in two years and I should be finished. XD

[RichChap]

sup guys if this game is still happening i'd love to help out.



I can do animation, art, and music. Whatever you guys need help with feel free to let me know.

[Cooki-Cooki]

I do remember Cooki was a programmer, he asked me for some C++ help, I tried. :P

Anyway I would help guys but as my sig says I am making a game of this degree. Otherwise I would help as much as I could. But for now I can only help the programmers. :(
Ask me in two years and I should be finished. XD

It was Cooliscool.... =/.
we need to sort out the production before we start any developement.

and no, I was not a programmer, I was a producer and texture artist .

[itsmeyouidiot]

I certainly hope you guys find a programmer soon!

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Wow page 187 and still nothing has come of this project. :(

[Cooki-Cooki]

Wow page 187 and still nothing has come of this project. :(

as I said, we need to sort out the production. so please, someone.
help us.

[Guitar]

You go here, you go there, and you sit in the corner and doodle.

[mojobojo]

This is really going nowhere. I don't want to leave, but I see no potential progress. I need reassurance that this can be done or else I am gone.

[Weldar-Kazooie]

This is really going nowhere. I don't want to leave, but I see no potential progress. I need reassurance that this can be done or else I am gone.

Why leave a stalled project? I mean, sure there's no progress being done, but I see no reason to leave it?

[B-Kpianist]

I'm just letting it rest right now. I'm so overbooked, it's ridiculous >.<

[Zondekel]

Well, if / when it gets picked up again, I'll still be on for script writing...

[sam.26]

I'm not swure how, but I've never looked in this thread before! Can someone give me a quick summary of how the games going? And is there anything I can do to help? I can't help with the programming but I would love to help on the concept side of things.

[Ice Mario]

Perhaps you should read the posts above yours.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

We should annoint somebody to continue this project in BKP's absence.

[Cooki-Cooki]

We should annoint somebody to continue this project in BKP's absence.

Me and Mojobojo are those people.
and don't say "we" you're not part of the team.

I'll post a draft of the GDD later tonight.

[Smouvy]

Just because things go slowly, doesn't mean it's dead.

[Cooki-Cooki]

This is the draft of the Game design Document.

[sam.26]

Perhaps you should read the posts above yours.

I would rather not read 1,810 posts. Does anyone have a just a brief description on what's been done?

EDIT: Didn't see Cooki's post. Thanks!

[mojobojo]

Awesome Cooki, if we need some programmers, I am up for it. I just haven't programmed any games so Id need to learn.

[BobbyTheCat]

Well this looks like quite the project.

[Cooki-Cooki]

Well this looks like quite the project.

This is just a draft, almost a template.
The final GDD will be about 20+ pages long

[banjorules]

hello guys im new to the forums but i have been watching your progress in the shadows. i have been looking at fan games for banjo and there all dead so. i salute you i hope this project never fails. also could i be a game tester possibly? like a beta tester oh and do you have a working demo? like is any thing actually in game yet?i have a idea for a turtle enemy called the turtletank. a robotic giant turtle.

[B-Kpianist]

Wow- i'm glad things are getting done in my absence! It encourages me to keep writing. Just a heads up: School is coming to an end, and the Drumline season is close to being over. The next month will be the busiest for me. HOWEVER, I am still working on music (i'm currently working on a clashblade castle revamp). I will try my hardest to keep up with the progress of the game. Once this month is over, I can probably (slowly but surely) become more dedicated to the game again :)

[Qwazin]

I'm also busy like heck but still very much interested in this thing. When the summertime comes, I'll be all open for this project again. I feel my drawing has become quite a bit more flexible since last time I atempted this thing.

[banjorules]

so i guess that is a no then? still good luck.

[B-Kpianist]

ClashBlade Castle Revamped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07TtrobUCxw) - just to reassure everyone that i'm still working on music!

[mojobojo]

ClashBlade Castle Revamped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07TtrobUCxw) - just to reassure everyone that i'm still working on music!

Your music makes me very happy.

[banjorules]

im so bored all i can do is watch the slow production of this cool looking game.:( or i could dwell in the past of rare games. is there anything i can do without knowing any programming whatsoever i whould love to help in some form. plus like i said i could be a beta tester there just as important.

[banjorules]

hey bkpianist i love your music what program do you use

[B-Kpianist]

Thanks you guys! I use GarageBand w/ the Jam Pack upgrades :)

[banjorules]

Im so sorry for anoying you guys. but could i tribute some how. like a beta tester. or an archiver i could run everything you guys make for the beta tester thing.or you could give me evrything you guys made to me so i can archive it:). pls i just want a purpose.:( also please respond tomorrow. if i dont get some response i might not care about this project anymore. and no thats not a threat. i rlly rlly want to be a beta tester pls pls pls pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BobbyTheCat]

ClashBlade Castle Revamped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07TtrobUCxw) - just to reassure everyone that i'm still working on music!

I like your music, and nice WitchyWorld addition.:cool:

[Grey Jinjo]

ClashBlade Castle Revamped (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07TtrobUCxw) - just to reassure everyone that i'm still working on music!

Wow, nice.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

I don't like ClashBlade Castle that much, I'm getting very bored of the same chord patterns over and over again. Maybe you should start composing in a different style for a change.

[B-Kpianist]

I don't like ClashBlade Castle that much, I'm getting very bored of the same chord patterns over and over again. Maybe you should start composing in a different style for a change.

This is a banjo game, so therefore i compose in the banjo style. And I have started writing in a different style. check my YouTube Channel (www.youtube.com/user/ThatOneComposer).

@everyone who's complimented: thanks! glad you like it ^_^

[Smouvy]

I don't like ClashBlade Castle that much,
Agreed

I'm getting very bored of the same chord patterns over and over again.
Semi-Agreed

Maybe you should start composing in a different style for a change.

Disagreed

[Qwazin]

I actually agree with the "changing of style" idea to a certian degree. We've heard so much Banjo music by now that it's become quite predictable. That is not to say the music is not good, but it is just predictable. Your greatest peice by far, Mr. Pianist, was the nighttime theme for... Honeyhive Mountain I belive it was? That peice really gave your own spin on the Banjo style by keeping it very Banjo/Kirkhope-ish while still adding something personal and fresh to it. I think Clashblade Castle is playing it a little bit too safe. Don't be afraid to go outside of the "Banjo" way of composing. You already kind of perfected your ordinary Banjo-compositions with Dutchman's Domain :P

[B-Kpianist]

Aww- that's too bad, I actually really liked ClashBlade Castle. :-/ I suppose I could spice it up a bit though. We'll see. I might just leave it alone and work on the other ones.

@Qwazin: I get what you're saying. And I do agree with you, I just don't wanna lose the banjo feel of things too much. Listening back on Honeybee Mountain (Night Time), I liked it a lot. The piano part came out really pretty in the end.

Y'know what? That'll be my next project. HB Mountain. I wanna see where I can take that one :)

[Chicken Eater 40652]

That's the word...predictable. I think the composition is great for what it is, and of course you're a great composer and very musical. But I've heard you compose like that so much now that I know every next chord, the only difference is the melody. That is overexaggerating but I think you get my point. I too prefer the music you compose that is slightly out of the Banjo realm.

EDIT: My favourite piece is between Ballistic Bedroom and Minjo Manor. So maybe I'm wrong, maybe I just don't like CC for some other reason. I'm not sure why, I just don't like the piece - I think it sounds too generic..I'm not saying I could write better with my current music setup though.

I do like the way you throw in so many references to the official Banjo music, I can tell you're very musical. I can hear the talent. So keep it up.

[123mac123]

constructive criticism, I I really only agree with changing the chord progression, however I find the quality of your recent music sounds more banjo kazzoie nuts and bolts, is that what your aim is?

[B-Kpianist]

I'm actually just trying to reach a happy medium between Nuts & Bolts style and Classic Banjo style.

[Cooki-Cooki]

should we use unreal engine 3? yes/no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBX6pkcvNVQ
http://unrealtechnology.com/

it's free for non-commercial uses (like our game!)

[StarFox]

should we use unreal engine 3? yes/no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBX6pkcvNVQ
http://unrealtechnology.com/

it's free for non-commercial uses (like our game!)
Last time I looked into it, the engine itself costs a ton of money. : O

[Cooki-Cooki]

The cost is US $350,000 for one of the available Unreal Engine 2 platforms, plus US $50,000 for each additional platform. A royalty of 3% is due on all revenue from the game, calculated on the wholesale price of the product minus (for console SKUs) console manufacturer fees. In the case of massive-multiplayer online games, the royalty is also due on the additional forms of revenue including subscriptions and advertisements.

Royalty-Free License - For any products

A non-refundable, non-recoupable license fee paid on execution of agreement: US $750,000 for one of the available platforms, plus US $100,000 for each additional platform. No royalty is due on any revenue from the product.
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unreal engine 3 is more expensive again so if the old unreal engine 2 is US $750,000, then expect the unreal engine 3 to be even more.

yep, it's an expensive engine.

[Viku]

Well, what ya' know. The project is still alive.

so, sorry for the abcense. I would lvoe to hear the progress

also, i believe my drawing got a bit better, so I may lend a hand eventually....

[Cooki-Cooki]

It's decided, we are going to use UE3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rkqrFb-IS8
Just look at it.

[B-Kpianist]

I agree 100% - the game at 0:31 and at 1:20 makes me think of what we could do with the look of our game! :D

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Who's handling the sounds? Not the music, the sounds..because I could do lots and lots of noises if you need any, eg for characters, noises, and so on.

[JohnyT94]

Regardless of what anyone says about CC, I think it's amazing... truly amazing...

But, sometimes I think your compositions are just a 'rip-off' from another Banjo tune... or sometimes multiple Banjo/Conker/Rare game tunes. I'm not sure why I sometimes think this because I always love the music anyway... I think this is the 4th time I'm listening to CC in a row now...

Anyway... I really hope TCG actually gets finished... even if it's just one level, I'd love a new, 3D Banjo platformer. Good luck...

And, @LL, I don't think sounds would be needed right now... the majority would be ripped from currently existing Banjo games anyway.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Johny, I think he writes very originally.

And I hate to bring personal attacks into this, but after I heard your piece that sounded like Gruntilda's Lair, I don't think you're in any position to say BKP does it.

[JohnyT94]

Johny, I think he writes very originally.

And I hate to bring personal attacks into this, but after what YOU composed with that huge rip off of Gruntilda's Lair, I don't think you're in any position to speak!

... :-/ ...

We talked about this in the thread... :-/

That piece was SUPPOSED to sound like Grunty's lair as it was not only a Banjo theme but the theme of Grunty's mother (or grandma). And, I'm pretty sure everyone went against what you said and insisted that only one little part of the tune sounded like Grunty's Lair (only because the chords) but, that was just a referance... everything else was entirely different.

So, I used one, small referance (well, half a referance as it was only the chords) in one, small tune. You use a referance in almost ALL your pieces...?

Bleh, this isn't the time or place to discuss this. Just forget it.

[B-Kpianist]

See, the thing is- every single Banjo-Kazooie tune (wether written by myself OR Grant Kirkhope), tends to relate to each other. That's why you hear a little bit of Banjo in DK64, for example. Or Banjo-Kazooie in Banjo-Tooie. If you're going to write in the same style for different games- there are obviously going to be some (if not a lot) of similarities. I even remember that a few songs from DK64 share melodies with Banjo (ie. a portion of the mad monster mansion church melody is heard in one of the rooms in creepy castle).

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Ok I'm sorry me saying that was very very harsh, probably a bit wrong and inappropriate. But I'm just a bit peeved that you insulted BKP after I think he does great work, and when I heard your song that was basically Grunty's Lair I thought it sounded almost exactly the same.

And exactly, BKP, there are bound to be similarities. Take every Mozart sonata for example..they are all very unique, yet the same traits pop up again and again. It's the same thing.

[JohnyT94]

This coming from a guy who's sick of the 'same old chord pregressions'?

Right.. ANYWAY...

I never insulted BKP, I said that I always hear stuff from Rare's games in his pieces... including the 'battle' theme that was supposed to be his own style. But, I was not insulting... I was evaluating.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

And what's wrong with using parts of Rare tunes? It's still his original composition.

[JohnyT94]

... Yes... I know...

I never said "THIS ISN'T YOUR MUSIC 'COS YOU USED RARE'S TUNES!!!", did I...

Just be quiet... seriously.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

"sometimes I think your compositions are just a 'rip-off' from another Banjo tune..."

"compositions are just a 'rip-off' from another Banjo tune..."

"a 'rip-off' from another Banjo tune..."

[JohnyT94]

"sometimes I think your compositions are just a 'rip-off' from another Banjo tune..."

"compositions are just a 'rip-off' from another Banjo tune..."

"a 'rip-off' from another Banjo tune..."

"I'm not sure why I sometimes think this because I always love the music anyway... I think this is the 4th time I'm listening to CC in a row now..."

Please, just be the bigger man and walk away as usual. I'm getting tired of this + this is not a thread to be discussing this... PM me if you REALLY have to.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

I'm sorry if you didn't mean it to be, but it sounded like an attack on BKP.

[banjorules]

I dont know if people are ignoring me or what.:mad: can i help by supplying ideas or beta testing pls reply:approve:. oh and good idea for unreal:D engine

[frankieforever]

Heck, If you guys want, I got some great Ideas for the Crystal Jiggy! Send me a PM if you want info :3

[Cooki-Cooki]

We need mostly game designers.

If you want to be a designer and you have no idea what game design is, please read these links.

http://www.gamasutra.com/category/design/ ALL OF THE BLOGS AND DESIGN FEATURES ARTICLES.

http://www.gamedev.net/reference/business/features/virtual/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_design

http://www.sloperama.com/advice/specs.htm

[B-Kpianist]

Btw, would you guys be okay with changing the name to "Banjo-Threeie" or "The Real Banjo Threeie"? Because really, that's what I want this game to become.

[Sekna]

At college my brother is studying game design and right now he's learning the fundamentals of it and I have access to all his lecture notes, so I'll be able to help.
He has also just started learning how to use the Unreal engine and I have access to all the lecture notes for that and he is teaching me one on one how to use it aswell. I'm pretty happy about that and so far I've learnt how to build rooms, apply textures and skyboxes etc.
I'll be learning heaps more stuff and I already know C++ so I'm sure I'll be able to help you guys if you do happen to recruit me. :P

[Keegan]

Btw, would you guys be okay with changing the name to "Banjo-Threeie" or "The Real Banjo Threeie"? Because really, that's what I want this game to become.

What if Rare decides to use that name though?

We should just stick to our original name.

[Sekna]

Plus, the original name sounds more... original honestly. I am sticking with it too.
ALSO: I am part of the team now... programming, putting the game together in Unreal and designing. :)

[123mac123]

What if Rare decides to use that name though?

We should just stick to our original name.

plus it wouldnt be "the real banjo threeie" because its a fan game, please ealborate bkpianist

[mojobojo]

I'll be learning heaps more stuff and I already know C++ so I'm sure I'll be able to help you guys if you do happen to recruit me. :P

What have you done as far as c++?

[Sekna]

I'm not sure what you mean mojobojo, if you mean what have I learnt, well I have learnt the syntax and basically everything in how to code in C++. I'll easily be able to pick up the framework of unreal.

[Ice Mario]

19 months and you've decided on an engine :p Good luck guys, I mean it.

[cooperace27]

Don't go changing to U4 when it comes out either. It would be cool if this game doesn't become Duke Nukem.

[Cooki-Cooki]

Ahem...

http://www.udk.com/
http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/product/694/
http://jdownloader.org/download

send me a PM guys.
and I'll see what can I do for you.

[Sekna]

19 months and you've decided on an engine :p Good luck guys, I mean it.

Aaaand how many of those months was the project active? :P
I think it might start taking off soon, because we're getting quite a few things together as of late.

[Dukemike]

Don't go changing to U4 when it comes out either. It would be cool if this game doesn't become Duke Nukem.

I lol'd pretty hard there.:p

[SnsSeeker13]

19 months and you've decided on an engine :p Good luck guys, I mean it.

Most of this time was planning the various aspects of the game. Once actual development starts, thing should hopefully get moving along faster.

[B-Kpianist]

19 months and you've decided on an engine :p Good luck guys, I mean it.

haha wow- it has been that long, hasn't it? Thank you :)

[SnsSeeker13]

Wow. So the last post at the official forums was made in September. Nobody's posted there in 6 months.

[B-Kpianist]

So here's a quick Recap of worlds:

Honeybee Mountain: A bright and upbeat world with a huge and explorable honey hive in its center. The music is an upbeat swing-styled piece.
Ballistic Bedroom: An oversized kids bedroom fully loaded with a lego city, bouncy bed, ceiling fan replica of Cloud Cuckooland, and a toy train for transportation. The music is circus-like.
Wild Wired West: A western world that runs off of electricity. Fully loaded with projection screen walls, Mechanical Bull, and Pop out props. The music is a western theme with electrical sounds backing it up.
Dutchman's Domain: A dark, huge and mysterious ghostly pirate ship that floats takes flight only at night. The music is a dark pirate theme.
Bright-Star Belt: The "Terrarium of Terror" Construction zone. No music available yet (I kind of wanna cut this one- but i wanna hear your opinions on it)
Clashblade Castle: A castle world. (cant remember the description that much). Music was posted recently
Freezing Furnace: A GBA world brought to life in 3D (Might wanna cut this one too, but I need your opinions)
Eukaryotopia: The most unique world yet- A world inside of an animal cell. The music is in progress.
Fester's Factory/Grunty's Battlefield: The final world leading to the quiz and boss fights. The world is a maze to find Fester and Grunty's hideouts. The music for the factory portion is... factory like obviously. The Battlefield portion is undetermined- I was thinking of having a drumline sounding thing going on

Because Cooki wants the worlds to be accessed naturally, Im not sure what the hub should be. Any ideas?

[Chicken Eater 40652]

I like eukaryotopia, you coudl enter the mitochondria lol

[B-Kpianist]

Yeah- Eukaryotopia is my personal favorite. I'm redoing the theme right now (the original sounded too LogBox for my liking)

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Can you enter a mitochondrion?

[Zondekel]

Well, I liked your re-do of the Freezing Furnace theme, so I don't think it should be scrapped. I loved that level in the game, so...
Though, would it go into the past Grunty Industries like in the GBA game, or will that be sealed off?

[B-Kpianist]

Not sure- we haven't really planned it yet. All I know as that we're using this as a reference when building the world:

Eukaryotic Cell (http://millville.sps.edu/allaccess/divisions/science/jdonnelly/Cell%20Page_files/04-05A-AnimalCell-L.jpg)

I don't know how the world is gonna be set up- I was gonna have Ms. Who (if she can) make some concept art on how that world can be laid out.

@Zondekel: Yeah- Grunty's Industry would still be in there. I'm gonna redo that theme too.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Wait where's the freezing furnace redone?

[Zondekel]

@Zondekel: Yeah- Grunty's Industry would still be in there. I'm gonna redo that theme too.

YES! While it wasn't as good as the -Tooie Grunty Industries theme, I still loved it...

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Not sure- we haven't really planned it yet. All I know as that we're using this as a reference when building the world:

Eukaryotic Cell (http://millville.sps.edu/allaccess/divisions/science/jdonnelly/Cell%20Page_files/04-05A-AnimalCell-L.jpg)

Yeah, see the mitochondrion? That's an organelle in the cell.

How does Banjo get through the granular cytoplasm? Also, can he pass through some of the partially permeable membranes?

[Zondekel]

Oh, and LL, the Freezing Furnace update was posted on the forums awhile ago...

http://www.mediafire.com/?iw442kn1nmj

[B-Kpianist]

I'd like to put Weldar back into Grunty's Industry again. It would make more sense- and I really wanna redo the boss music ^^

[Sekna]

I'm interested in starting to model the first world B-Kp, I'm just wondering if anyone has started a map of any sort?

[Smouvy]

Hahah, Grunty's Battlefield; damn you stealing my ideas ;)

My factious Banjo-Kazooie game (which only exists on paper; worlds drawn etc.) also holds Grunty's Battlefield as a final level prior to the final fight. :P Basically it was a mashup of camps and heavily armed buildings in the middle of a wasteland. The place would've been surrounded by rock walls seperating the place into 5 areas, N S E W and the center.

Aaannnd. I'm rambling on xD

[mojobojo]

I'm interested in starting to model the first world B-Kp, I'm just wondering if anyone has started a map of any sort?

IDK, but I am in for some modeling. Installing 3DS Max right now.

[Cooki-Cooki]

If you need a tutorail or something from this site:
http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/

drop me a PM.

[mojobojo]

Any concept art of the characters, levels, items?

[kingpaco]

It is nice to see that this project is starting ton move again :)

[B-Kpianist]

Any concept art of the characters, levels, items?

http://thecrystaljiggy.omgforum.net/

Take a look around there^ We have PLENTY of concept art and levels (which i just listed on the previous page) and such.

[JohnyT94]

That FF in 3D idea was mine... I demand that you do not drop it! :'(

[Sekna]

I've been mucking around with making landforms in Maya and textures in Photoshop. What do you guys think?

1 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/1.png)
2 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/2.png)
3 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/3.png)
4 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/4.png)

NB: I forgot to make the mountain seamless the right way, I lazily did a pattern mode in PS which moved bits of it around to make it reasonably seamless... if you guys think it's not good enough I'll do it the right way.

[Bradlestix]

So is the project sort of starting to make progress? If so I can draw some more concepts; I just don't want to draw stuff that's never going to be used. :/

[Sekna]

Oh no, we're really making more progress now. It's be great if you could start drawing stuff! :D

[BobbyTheCat]

Can I help with this? It's looking good.

[Bradlestix]

Excellent! *steeples fingers* I'm basically done with another project I've been working on and I'm on school holidays for the next 2 weeks so I can probably get quite a bit done.

[B-Kpianist]

Spring break now! Can we get this moving?

[BobbyTheCat]

I would like to help. What can I do?

[frankieforever]

I had a couple of brilliant ideas. I posted them to Coki-Coki's page. Go there fer the ideas. I dont feel like typing it all

[Sekna]

Of course we can get this moving. I've been wanting to start Honeybee Mountain for a couple of weeks now! :P
I just need you to go on AIM or something or respond to my message on your page BKp.

[B-Kpianist]

Sure Sure. Lemme just get all the music for HBM on YouTube. I just finished most of it tonight.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Sure Sure. Lemme just get all the music for HBM on YouTube. I just finished most of it tonight.

YouTube has been down recently. :/

[Jigsaw Master]

YouTube has been down recently. :/

I just got on it. :confused:

[B-Kpianist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOh_tRsFqpQ

[Smouvy]

That video is marked as private :'(

[Jigsaw Master]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOh_tRsFqpQ

To me it said the video is private.

[B-Kpianist]

fixed :)

[JohnyT94]

Great song BKp. I can def. hear the inspiration from Ticker's Tower/Beta Mumbo's Mountain tune. I would say it's all great except, it is sometimes boring to listen to as all you can hear is that 'shaker' sound. Still fantastic though.

[B-Kpianist]

Did you listen to the night time portion too?

[JohnyT94]

Yes, I made my comment mainly on the day time theme though, as I was commenting while listening. I find the night time theme much better.

[B-Kpianist]

Everyone seems to. I really like the day time theme though, I was happy with how it came out :-/

[JohnyT94]

Don't get me wrong, I love the upbeat feel to the day time theme... it's just the long and 'boring' sounds of the shaker (such as the long intro, etc.) that I find... not bad but, less appealing than the rest of the tune.

[B-Kpianist]

Oohh, I see :P

[lemurboy12]

Best song ever. Period. I bet the gameplay will be as awesome as this... if only we were able to see some. :-/
Also, is this game based off of the original two games or Nuts & Bolts?

[Sekna]

B-Kp I urge you to send me all your soundfonts please. They are to amazing to keep to yourself... I am stuck with GarageBand and a GM kit. D:

To the actual music. I love it! It is amazing, the melodies are so perfectly constructed... and I love the harmonies you've put in, and the whole jazzy feel. I just wish you'd make the bassline louder, because that's the "shaker" bit everyone's talking about. I turned my volume heaps because I thought it was quiet to hear the bassline then suddenly it got really loud. I could also hear the steel string acoustic from GB. You made it sound really nice on a low velocity.

The nighttime one - The arpeggios were really nice with the harp and the flutes you used sounded great, the melodies on those were sounding very nice. All in all, the sound quality of all the instruments was very good and that's what one of the main things were, it was very pleasurable to listen to. And is that the GarageBand piano? How did you do that with it? Tell me! :P

Great song B-Kp. It's your best no doubt... although Clashbade Castle may have a better melody.

[Zondekel]

I like this because it's Banjo-y, but at the same time it's more your style. This is good!

[lemurboy12]

I need this as an MP3 to listen to over and over again on my iPod.

[Zondekel]

Listening to the Night Time version, I actually have to say I prefer the Day Time version compared to the Night Time one...

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Best song ever. Period.

Do you mean by BKp? Or did you just say he was better than everybody in the universe that has ever composed a song?

[lemurboy12]

Do you mean by BKp? Or did you just say he was better than everybody in the universe that has ever composed a song?
I kind of meant best Banjo music ever.

[JohnyT94]

I kind of meant best Banjo music ever.

That was made by BKp.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

That was made by BKp.

Think he 'kind of meant' the best fan Banjo music...well BKp is musical but lemurboy12 isn't exactly the most reliable critic.

[kingpaco]

No need to be so hard on the guy, I think you both knew what he meant from the beginning. To answer your question lemurboy12, the game is supposed to be based on the originals, unless of course something really drastic happened while I was away from the project.

[B-Kpianist]

No no, story line is the same :P

And thanks lemurboy, it's nice to get a non-musicians take on the music I write. It shows what kind of general effect I'm having an the audience (im using Drumline terms now :P)

[TRBB]

1 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/1.png)
2 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/2.png)
3 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/3.png)
4 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/4.png)

Lol, that's the closest thing to a screenshot we've ever gotten. Something tells me this still has a long ways to go.

[sam.26]

That sounds great, it reminds me of the first level of DK64 (name escapes me). The night time theme remindes me of Fungi Forest at night, too!

I'm still willing to help with anything if you need it.

[Sekna]

I did that in half an hour when I was bored TRBB. I could do more faster once B-Kp gives me a more detailed layout of Honeybee Mountain.

[B-Kpianist]

Speaking of which, Sekna, what exactly do you need on the map? do you need a more detailed overhead view, or will you need more sketches of what the world should look like?

[Keegan]

I love the day and night portion. Day more though, cause I love teh happy upbeat kinda stuff.

It's kinda quiet though... either that or my headphones suck.

[SnsSeeker13]

So we're finally getting this thing back on track? Great. Is there anything I can do right now?

[lemurboy12]

I want an MP3 of daytime Honeybee Mountain to put on my iPod.

[Sekna]

Speaking of which, Sekna, what exactly do you need on the map? do you need a more detailed overhead view, or will you need more sketches of what the world should look like?

Well, I need the height mainly, like hills and stuff. I could hardly believe the whole world it flat considering it's a mountain. That's all. :)

[Bradlestix]

Could somebody post the entire list of levels and, if possible, prominent locations and features of those levels that will be in the game? It would really assist me drawing baddies for levels.

[Qwazin]

BK-Pianist, I ADORE the Honeybee Mountain theme! You really made the effort I see :D It's got so much going on, it's epic and it sort of touches both on Grant's BK and DK styles while adding your own awesome flurish. So far I must say Honeybee Mountain (Daytime and Nighttime respectivley) has the best music in this game so far :D They both feel very complete together. Even if this game never gets finished, you can surely use this for an online album or something. That would be spectacular.

Am I still part of this team btw? I might still be busy during the spring break, but I'm all for jumping in during the summer! I still feel very fond of sketching up Fester concepts.

[Jorn]

Does anyone know why the track on the website is lagging?

[Cooki-Cooki]

Could somebody post the entire list of levels and, if possible, prominent locations and features of those levels that will be in the game? It would really assist me drawing baddies for levels.

check out the official forums.

[sam.26]

Okay, I've decided I want to help with the music. If you need any ideas for tunes for the levels, I'll be happy to give you samples. I won't be able to compose full songs though, but I can still help.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention, will Minjo Manor be a level in this game? If so, then the boss MUST be The Minjonator.

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Okay, I've decided I want to help with the music. If you need any ideas for tunes for the levels, I'll be happy to give you samples. I won't be able to compose full songs though, but I can still help.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention, will Minjo Manor be a level in this game? If so, then the boss MUST be The Minjonator.

BKPianist is doing it on his own.

[B-Kpianist]

A completely revamped version of Eukaryotopia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onOTgkOk72M) :)

[lemurboy12]

You really gotta release these as MP3s. I want them on my iPod. :{

[BobbyTheCat]

Well, he does have some older pieces in midi format here. (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=cb27d414cfebf08c1686155677bb268593512157 45c4f1ee)

[Angry Ancestor]

A completely revamped version of Eukaryotopia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onOTgkOk72M) :)

Sounds like LOGBOX. :) I like it.

[Sekna]

B-Kp, I am needing your soundfonts now. D:
I still like Clashblade Castle best but this is definitely my second favourite. You captured it perfectly, especially the parts with the harp. I sort of imagines you having level cut half a hemisphere off and have it so that you swim in parts of the cell and the walls are solid on the side but the other parts you can walk into inner parts of the cell. Just a thought. :)

[JohnyT94]

It's surprising how professional it sounds, well done! Maybe it's a bit too 'industrial' at parts though? This is a natural cell, right? So it shouldn't sound metallic? I heard a bit of Grunty's Industries too.

Now, on to the game itself. The music is fantastic but I'm starting to lose faith in this project. I've not seen any demo yet a member named 'Skill' at RWC can create a short 3D demo of his 3D fan game within a week. I would like to see a demo of TCJ soon...

[Sekna]

We would have a demo if we had enough concept for a level.

[JohnyT94]

But, can't we atleast see a walk animation? It seems like nothing has been done.

[Qwazin]

New tune is cool ;) I always saw this project as kind of BK-Pianists little solo "fan soundtrack" for his fictional Banjo game. If the game gets done or not, I don't really mind. If there was to be a game featuring this music it would be awesome, but I wouldn't mind just having a fan soundtrack being released either :)

[Zondekel]

B-Kp, I am needing your soundfonts now. D:

I too would like to possess them...


I like this a lot. The only thing, though, is that it seems to fall back on the total Banjo feel. One of the things I liked about Honeybee Mountain was that it was Banjo-y, but at the same time, it was also your own style. Eukaryotopia, while it DOES have a nice theme, sounds awful similar to LOGBox...

[Smouvy]

Listening to the quality, they're most likely not soundfonts.

[Sekna]

What would they most likely be then? B-Kp told me they were soundfonts with samples from the NaB orchestra.

[Bradlestix]

So we need people do design the levels? I can do that, if that's the case. By the way, I put some of my concepts in my thread at TCJ forums.

[Sekna]

Don't worry, B-Kp has done Honeybee Mountain, just when he has the time I need him to tell me is he wants rough/flat terrain and the different heights, that's all.

[Keegan]

i lurv it really lots

[Chicken Eater 40652]

What would they most likely be then? B-Kp told me they were soundfonts with samples from the NaB orchestra.

WOW I would REALLY appreciate those. I hope he does give them out.

Or where did he get the samples? They're the Prague Philharmonic.

[B-Kpianist]

Every sound I used in that song are soundfonts and midi instruments. You'd be amazed at what you can do with those sounds. I would give out these sounds, but unfortunately I can't. You can get them, however, if you have GarageBand or Logic. Look for the "Jam Packs". They sell for $100 a pack. I use the "Orchestra" and "World Music" Pack. I still wanna get more sound packs.

I'm glad you all liked it, however (:

[BobbyTheCat]

Don't worry, B-Kp has done Honeybee Mountain, just when he has the time I need him to tell me is he wants rough/flat terrain and the different heights, that's all.

Here's some concept art I found in this thread. I don't know if it will help you, though. (http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn194/BKpianist/HoneybeeMountain.jpg)

[Sekna]

Every sound I used in that song are soundfonts and midi instruments. You'd be amazed at what you can do with those sounds. I would give out these sounds, but unfortunately I can't. You can get them, however, if you have GarageBand or Logic. Look for the "Jam Packs". They sell for $100 a pack. I use the "Orchestra" and "World Music" Pack. I still wanna get more sound packs.

I'm glad you all liked it, however (:

You used the Jam Packs? Imma buy meself a few. Unless I can somehow get the ones from school cheaper.

And thanks Bobby, I'll start right away. I have a much better vision now.

[B-Kpianist]

I think we really need to show the public some simple animations and models. Sekna, what have you got done?

Also, this guy is offering to help us. How does this look?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgrdA8pIVQs

[BobbyTheCat]

Also, this guy is offering to help us. How does this look?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgrdA8pIVQs

Wow, that looks good.

[Sekna]

He did a good job, but we can't use lightwave models, and they need to be reasonably low poly.
But I really like how well he's done it. :D

Oh and B-Kp, I had a music assignment to do that was due in about a couple of days that I got so I didn't get much done. I'm doing more now though.

[Zondekel]

Also, this guy is offering to help us. How does this look?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgrdA8pIVQs

I've seen this before awhile ago, and while I do like it, I guess, I think it requires work- the eyes, for example, aren't exactly Banjo-y with them being spread apart like that, or with the things around them.

[Sekna]

Holy bananas wasn't this gonna be cel-shaded?

[B-Kpianist]

Yes it was, and I still want to go with that. :P

[Sekna]

I wonder if Unreal can do cel-shading... brb
OK it's achievable, there's also a tutorial I found for making it look like TF2.
I was thinking we should go for a "painterly" style though. But it's just what I've been thinking for my game I think.
I honestly prefer the Prince of Persia (http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/890/890172/e3-2008-prince-of-persia-4-screens-20080715053150813_640w.jpg) style to the Simpsons Game (http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/6710/1258_0007.jpg)/Wind Waker (http://rhornbek.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/zelda-wind-waker.jpg) style.

[B-Kpianist]

I think i prefer to stay with what we've got- OR we could just go with the a more classic banjo look.

ALSO, we have someone offering to help. He can do 3-D design and maybe level design. Here's what he can do:
"Rocko"- a baddie BanjoBoy123 came up with for the scrapped world "Icyrock Cavern" (http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/zz86/xXmedranizzleXx/1RockoScreenAngles.jpg)

[BobbyTheCat]

I've always sort of wanted this game with the classic look. And that Rocko looks pretty good too.

[Sekna]

We should hire him, he's done a fine job. :D

[Freshstart12342]

We should hire him, he's done a fine job. :D Thanks! Found the forum website, so i can stay in tune and keep up! :D

[Cooki-Cooki]

ok, now. we need the concept artists to draw some model sheets for banjo.

[lemurboy12]

I'd say go for the classic design. Some people seriously can't stand the new designs.

[BobbyTheCat]

I'd say go for the classic design. Some people seriously can't stand the new designs.

That's me.

[Freshstart12342]

yea, i prefer original banjo sorta to' i mean the new ones not bad the old ones just better

[Adam]

I could try a little somethin' somethin' as a model sheet...

[B-Kpianist]

Well, when I say classic, I don't mean 100% N64 banjo-graphics. I mean keeping the characters and landscapes the same stylistically (googley eyes, bright colors, etc), just newer looking.

[BobbyTheCat]

You mean not as polygonish?

[lemurboy12]

Well, when I say classic, I don't mean 100% N64 banjo-graphics. I mean keeping the characters and landscapes the same stylistically (googley eyes, bright colors, etc), just newer looking.
What do you mean by newer looking? Make it look less polygony and a little more polished?

[Chicken Eater 40652]

Well, when I say classic, I don't mean 100% N64 banjo-graphics. I mean keeping the characters and landscapes the same stylistically (googley eyes, bright colors, etc), just newer looking.

Are you referring to making it look less polygoner?

[B-Kpianist]

Pretty much, yes. I wanna have the quality of Nuts and Bolts mixed with the style of the originals. Imagine if Nuts and Bolts was filled with characters with googly eyes and natural environments (as opposed to the mechanical ones), and thts what I want to aim for.

[StarFox]

Wow, you people all asked the same question in 3 different ways. Great job. :thumbsup:

[lemurboy12]

How much progress does the game have so far? I mean, almost 200 pages and still no screenshots or anything.

[Smouvy]

Oh, but there has been a screenshot; too lazy to find it though.

[BobbyTheCat]

I've been mucking around with making landforms in Maya and textures in Photoshop. What do you guys think?

1 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/1.png)
2 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/2.png)
3 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/3.png)
4 (http://www.seknasoft.com/random_uploads/Renders/Experiments/HBM_LandForms/4.png)

NB: I forgot to make the mountain seamless the right way, I lazily did a pattern mode in PS which moved bits of it around to make it reasonably seamless... if you guys think it's not good enough I'll do it the right way.

This?

[Ice Mario]

Let's hope not, heh.

[Freshstart12342]

I dont think the mountains to bad, it actually looks good,
Random offtopic- go to www.grooveshark.com and type in "grant kirkhope" o-O lol

[BobbyTheCat]

I dont think the mountains to bad, it actually looks good,
Random offtopic- go to www.grooveshark.com and type in "grant kirkhope" o-O lol

That's awesome. o-O

[marshallh]

who's point man here? one person needs to start laying out tasks for each person on the list on the first page.

it seems as though there are a number of people here who are able to contribute, but it will take a single person to coordinate them.

I have seen many, many projects fail because of lack of structure (or skill) and unless someone steps up and flat-out says "hey X, you do this and hey Y, you do this other thing" it's going to fail just like all of the others. Hell, I even started an ran a fan project once, but it turned out I was the only one doing any work and the other "team" members enjoyed watching instead of contributing.

[Sekna]

We've already sorted that out outside the thread. It's just a lack of motivation and my current workload.

[Banjokun]

I still support this game. Hope this get released soon.

[BobbyTheCat]

soon

Not even.

[Jorn]

Not even.

Correct. This requires loads of people to help. How can I compromise?

[BobbyTheCat]

So is anyone working on the game currently?

[Jorn]

Yes, an answer would be nice.

[Sekna]

No..., I'm doing my own game.

[King Gobi]

What would that be sekna?

[Sekna]

What would that be sekna?

Classified until I make largely significant progress of the development so it doesn't turn out like the Crystal Jiggy is becoming.

[Keegan]

SEKNA FUNNY.

[Jorn]

No..., I'm doing my own game.

I believe this is a question for Bk-pianist.

[BobbyTheCat]

It was actually directed toward these guys:

Musician(s)
B-Kpianist (Main Composer)

Concept Artist's/Creative People
Qwazin
Viku
BanjoBoy123
B-Kpianist
King Paco
Tee-Hee
DeathWraith

Modelers and/or Animators
Lupaie (Main Modeler + Animator)
StarFox 260 (Props)
Tee-Hee (Levels?)
Nickybo (Props)
SnsSeeker13 (Levels)

3D Programers
cooliscool
Bonzo
MoOshiCow

Texture Artists
Tee-Hee (?)
vanyocasui
Lupaie

Half of them don't even post anymore.

[King Gobi]

Hehe funneh

[Bradlestix]

Lol, I still haven't been added to that list, but I have been drawing concepts, it's just that nobody really gave a shit.

SEKNA FUNNY.
No, SEKNA REALISTIC.

[Sekna]

It kinda was directed towards me aswell, I was asked to do a few things for this.