Conker Twelve Tails video

[Meow Mixer]

Has anyone seen this yet?

http://web20.emedian.net/64ddnet/games/n64/unreleased/twelve_tales_conker_64/videos/conkers_quest.mpg

Edit: The link dosn't work. Right click then save as.

[Klungo]

I've never seen that before. I really wish that it was released. I hope that rare makes it for xbox 360 or the DS. Well at least we got a 2d portable version for gbc called Conker's pocket Tails. The last world shown reminded me of when you went inside the dinosaur statue in CBFD.

[OmegaPirate]

Nice find Meow Mixer
Thanks thats an awesome video
Find more vids like this if you can :)

Here is the index it has a 16MB dinosaur planet vid too!
http://web20.emedian.net/64ddnet/games/n64/unreleased/

And Klungo it was released, just heavily changed in to Conker's Bad Fur Day.

[HyperactiveBug]

That video seems awfully easy, too. No badies anywhere.

[Klungo]

I knew that CBFD was CTT reworked. I just think that CTT had a lot more charm and if was ever released you could easily not put a connection between it and CBFD. At least Star Fox Adventures was better than Dinosaur Planet.

[MewChan]

Neither links work, I have no Save As option on my computer, and the Dinosaur Planet video does nothing when you click on it.

[LaorBR]

Sometimes I have this feeling game developers are pretty much dumb@#$$*es...
They could have sold a lot more copies of the new conker if they just had put both twelve tales and bad fur day on a single disk, and made more stages for bad fur day, like everyone wanted since the start.

You say the 9 years old N00bs (I don't mean all 9yrs are n00bs) can't play a game with outdated graphics, then? Fine, just redo the characters models and textures, let the rest of the game as it is. I mean, making the graphics acceptable for a 128-bit system, but no need to change small parts of the game here and there and recording music and voices samples once again in higher quality. Nobody cares about that, why waste time and money?

Let's say, like, they could put Twelve Tales as an unlockable after you finish BFD. And then say it was Conker infancy, or something, it would rock, adding replay value and storyline. Twelve Tales look too much different from BFD in the videos. TT would play more like BK and DK64 if I am right. I don't believe the 2 games are the same after watching the videos.

And no need to update TT graphics since it is being underrated since 96. And the stages similar to BFD would make sense, since the game would work like a prequel.

And Pocket Tales plays like NES Legend of Zelda to me, never enjoyed it very much. And my friend's cartridge couldn't save the game :( Damn pirated gbc cartridges.

(Sorry for typing that much text. I always got carried away when I start dreaming. Notice the repeatdly use of the word "would")

[MewChan]

My PT dosnt save either. No wonder it was in a Game Stop for 3 dollers on sale=1 doller. XD Such an odd plot...

[OmegaPirate]

At least Star Fox Adventures was better than Dinosaur Planet. How can you say that when DP was never released? Yet SFA basically *IS* DP with Star Fox characters replaced in it!
I think Dinosaur Planet looked amazing on the N64 with better than JFG graphics.
The Conker Game i have a guide of Twelve Tales 1st level in an old Tips and Tricks magazine.
Seemed like nothing special.

[Klungo]

The reason I said it was better was because I didn't like the graphics at all in the N64 version.

[MewChan]

Dear god, the graphics in SF64 were saddning. Not like that's too bad, the gameplay was fun! Yay fun! =D

[LaorBR]

The Conker Game i have a guide of Twelve Tales 1st level in an old Tips and Tricks magazine.
Seemed like nothing special.

Maybe you are right, it really wasn't nothing special =/
[warning: depressing mode/on]
But you know, its really a pitty its never going to be released, three whole years of hardwork dusted.
Things we aren't supposed to get always tend to seems better. This is one of the most annoying feelings we humans being have.

Like, a kind of nostalgia for something we missed. Pretty much its what this SnS obssesion is all about.

What really p@#$es me off in this story is that I feel every Conker game was underrated, censored, unreleased, or unfinished properly (BFD lack of a real last boss comes to mind) like a great game that never reaches its true potential.
[depressing mode/off]

[MewChan]

Aww. Does someone need a cookie or some Windex? Windex smells nice. TT sounded great too. :_:

[LaorBR]

me needs cookie. =P
Yeah, I am very sentimental today. Nevermind
offtopic: SF64 had a really high replay value. Why add a lot of annoying unlockables in a game when all we need is an "Extra Mode", like the one from SF64? And Dinosaur Planet looks prettier on N64

[MewChan]

*Gives LaorBR a sentimental cookie* XP
I never saw a Dinosaur Planet, ever, anywhere. I know they exist but....

[fishonthecarpet]

Hey,
Possible to scan that guide in OmegaPirate? I'd love to see it.

[cyberen]

this is awesome, I've seen two conker beta videos (one of them Coolboyman has) and this is the longest and most impressive one by far. I wish we had this kind of beta coverage for B-K and B-T.

edit: you notice how the berri in the beta video looks a lot like the one in BFD?

[OmegaPirate]

Hey,
Possible to scan that guide in OmegaPirate? I'd love to see it.
I'll try dig it up but i have hundreds of magazines in boxes, so it will take some effort to find that mag. But i'll check for it.

EDIT: Ok here it is, took a while to make it less than 100KB. It's from the 50th Issue of Expert Gamer.

[Klungo]

Ah yes, it is definatly the same as CBFD. First of all I watche dthe video again and saw so many simularities to CBFD. The Western Level looked like the Barn Boys Chapter. The circle door looked like the entrance to the Poo Cabin. The scarecrow area looked like the hungover level. After reading the guide it told me that the scarecrow teaches you moves, just like CBFD where je taught you to use Context-Sensitive Pads. Also in the video was the windmill level which looked like the one in CBFD exept without the mountain. Apart in the video where you had to knock out creatures in a gate looks just like the part where you feed the mouse cheese. And finally the part with the things swinging on rope looked like the part where you go inside the dinosaur statue. I mean sure, they deleted and added stuff, but the chore game is the same. Just like the fact that you can still shoot Conker Nuts on some Context-Sensitive pads.

[LaorBR]

What about the deleted Bosses, the presents, the music (I admit that BFD music is far better), many deleted moves, the totally different enviroments like the greek, western, etc. the fact you can actually play as Berri and her pet, and she isn't really the same berri from BFD. Hell, Berri from BFD didn't even seem to like conker very much.
I never got what was about that part on the gangster scene where she doesn't even recall Conker.
There is a whale on the videos too. What happent to it?
You made a good point, but I still don't take it.
Twelve Tales got 3 years of development, BFD got 2. Its not like they are the same thing, 2 years is too much time just to make a game look more mature.
Why they did remake everything from start on BFD? Why didn't they just use the stages from TT and add the "context sensitives" triggers to it?

Its not like I prefer TT to BFD. If they had lauched the game back at 99 I would overlook it as well.

But its SO unfair, think like you were a game maker, and everyone whine about your game being too cute.
Then you delete almost all your hard work and start it all again.
After 2 long years of even more rushed work, you finish it as a real masterpiece.
And still, the masses doesn't aprove it.

Heck, I would quit the gaming market because of that.
That's why I think Conker gives bad luck. A lot of bad luck. And I think he was one of the main reasons why Nintendo sold Rare.

[Klungo]

The deleted bosses turned into the new bosses. For example, the spinning cat turned into The Great Mighty Poo. I know because they both spin and instead of shooting nuts you shoot toilet paper. The shootout with Honker was turned into one of the fights with the Tediz. Did you know that CPT was in fact TT with less levels, less moves, and different gameplay. There was a castle that would have to have been in TT. That castle is now probably Count Batula's Mansion. The islands are probably the beach in the It's War Chapter. The swamp is a mixter of Sloparano and Bat's Tower. There was alo a Romem world which I saw a pic of. That is most likely Uga Buga. That's all I got.

[OmegaPirate]

The Boss K.O the Cat doesn't 'spin', it's talking about a move that Berri can do when fighting against it.

[LaorBR]

Don't think pocket tales is the same game as twelve tales.

Because PT is like Zelda, getting items, exploring and advancing thru the map, etc.
And TT is like Mario64. Remember the six stars in mario?
So, there are six presents (as episodes of the book) to get as conker and six as Berri.
In total: Twelve Tales. (hu well, quite obvious maths. Someone shot me! XD)

Alright, you almost got me convinced BFD is really the same as TT and very little was lost between the conversion. But that "K.O. the Kat" and what happent to Berri stages still bugs me.

EDIT: Now I get it, that stuff Berri says in the gangster scene in BFD. Thanks for explaining it to me, Omegapirate.

[OmegaPirate]

Actually i've finshed CPT 100% (a few years back) and i thought TTC64 was just going to be a 3D updated version of CPT, but not exactly the same game as CPT - (ie not a direct update) with a few additional things added to the mix.
CPT had presents too, that was the main thing in the game to do in CPT, get back the presents that were stolen...

When i first heard that it was changed to swearing, more adult etc... i thought it was a joke. But it wasn't.

But LaorBR i do agree that they should of at least released TTC64.
And that gangster "godfather" scene/Feral Reserve Bank i always thought of it like this...

Conker with Tribal Head Gear on "is like" Superman with Glasses on.

When Superman wears glasses no-one knows that it's him, even his workmates, even though they work together, they think he's Clark Kent.

That's why Berri doesn't know who Conker is.

At the Godfather Scene he's wearing the mask.
At the Entrace to the FR Bank he's wearing his normal clothing.

It fits in with all the movie parody things that the game incorporates.

[qwertybub3]

I saw "K.O. the Kat" in Nintendo Power 100 did any of you

[Klungo]

Hey I just figured something out today. Since CPT was CTT with a genre change I believe that the stuff that didn't make it into CBFD made it into BT and DK64. Take for example the Aztec Temple from CPT which was most likely in CTT as well. I think that it was turned into the Angry Aztec level from DK64. What about the ancient greek level that I've seen in pictures of CTT? It probably had a theme and character change and then was transferred to BT. Can you find any more levels or scenarios of the sort?

[zxzxi]

I heard SF64 had some pretty good graphics for it's time. Especially considering it was an early N64 game. I own the game and the graphics aren't that bad for an N64 game. It's also a REALLY FUN game.

[fishonthecarpet]

Oh ****e, I know it was ages ago but thanks Pirate for scanning that image. Interesting!

[OmegaPirate]

You welcome! I thankfully only had to rummage through 2 boxes of magazines :)

[pinkerdroit]

Hah, wow, I just watched that CTT video. It's almost eerie watching it, thinking and wondering about what the game might have been, and then thinking of what it ended up as in BFD. I loved BFD and played it to death, but it didn't play the same as BK or BT (mostly the set events in BFD made it less fun to me). I'd have loved another BK style platform game with Conker.