Pokemon XD: Hit or miss?

[WolvyDaPope]

I haven't made a thread in a while in fear of it being spam, but I thought this would be an interesting topic as Pokemon is one of my favorite of Nintendo's franchises and its new game is being really promoted (in the email newsletter), so the question: Is it reall going to be a true RPG with a deep story line (the eXtra Dimension), or is it going to be Pokemon Coliseum again with different characters.

I think that although Pokemon has never been deep and it seems like a clone of PC, I think Nintendo is trying to brign back its RPG crowd more and try to develop Pokemon to be more complex than just: Gotta catch 'em all with a five-minute plot!

[ChaoticTH]

i dunno what their plan is,all i know is,that XD is either on purpose,or coincedience,or what?

[Banjo-Fella]

It's a hit like a fox, baby!

Ignoring my previous statement, yes, it's really good. Well, from the 10 minutes of it I've played, and the reviews I've read, anyway. It's much more of a proper RPG than Colloseum, rest assured.

[vaticandrummer]

Knowing how popular Pokemon is/was, I'm sure it will sell well.

I don't plan on buying it, though. The whole 'gotta catch 'em all!' thing burned out on me about 5 years ago when everyone else that lived in my area jumped off of the Pokemon bandwagon.

[PenquinDude]

You mean they're actually coming out with one that isn't a rehash of either the original or Colliseum? Liar. This is the ONE franchise where Nintendo can spin out remake after remake after remake and still sell tons. They wouldn't give that up.

[Gruntling]

I'm probably not going to buy it or even rent it. I'm not too much into the Pokemon scene anymore. Like vaticandrummer, I was into Pokemon heavily five or six years ago when it was really big, but those days are over now and everyone moved on. I did get Pokemon Sapphire a year or two ago, for old times sake though. Pokemon XD looks like it holds some promise, but I'm not sure it can match on the level of the handheld versions. The length of the game and its addictiveness are what made it popular I think. When I played Pokemon Stadium it got boring quickly... So if its anything like that, I'd be weary of jumping on it right away.

[WolvyDaPope]

I think it will be successful. I'll rent it just to see, as I think of the Pokemon by the games and not the fad. It seems that XD is going to open a new road for Pokemon, whether it will succeed is up to gamers.
The Pokemon formula works, but what enfuriates me is when they have "Promotional" Pokemon, like Mew, Jirachi, Celeci, and Ho-oh/Lugia for the GBA games. Just make them unlockable in the game!

[Kaz da Breegull]

I think it looks awesome! :D The idea of a dark/shadow/whatever Lugia will work well, me thinks. I still can't help but giggle when I see the XD in the title, though.

GAH, I hate how they force you to find a promo event to (legally) get Pokemon like Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi in the USA...especially when the Japanese versions of the game allowed you to catch the Pokemon in-game (in most cases). I used a GameShark to get Celebi so I could have a complete Pokedex in Crystal, but I don't like hacking Pokemon into my game.

[R Hunter]

Hate to say this but Celebi is not obtainable outside Japan. Which bones anyone going for a full dex. As for my opinion I like the changes they've made with XD. I won't buy it right away but I will eventually. The reason? Need it to complete my Dex's in Fire Red and Emerald.

[Banjo's Banjo]

I think it looks awesome! :D The idea of a dark/shadow/whatever Lugia will work well, me thinks. I still can't help but giggle when I see the XD in the title, though.

GAH, I hate how they force you to find a promo event to (legally) get Pokemon like Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi in the USA...especially when the Japanese versions of the game allowed you to catch the Pokemon in-game (in most cases). I used a GameShark to get Celebi so I could have a complete Pokedex in Crystal, but I don't like hacking Pokemon into my game.


While I never kept up with Pokemon after I quit playing those games several years ago (around when Yellow came out I believe), I'm pretty sure that someone had stumbled upon a way to actually get Mew legally in the game without hacking or using Missingno. glitches. The validity of this statement though is something I don't know however.

[Kaz da Breegull]

While I never kept up with Pokemon after I quit playing those games several years ago (around when Yellow came out I believe), I'm pretty sure that someone had stumbled upon a way to actually get Mew legally in the game without hacking or using Missingno. glitches. The validity of this statement though is something I don't know however.

Actually, I think I heard of a glitch in Yellow that allowed you to get Mew without using Missingno or a cheat device. I forgot how it worked, though.

[R Hunter]

Something about a van in...that port town with the S.S.Anne. You could find Mew near this van. I hear it actually works, hence Nintendy removing it when remaking Red/Blue as Fre Red and Leaf Green.

[PenquinDude]

NO! Mew is not under the truck. It's the one thing that I can't forget about Pokemon, for some odd reason.

[Hakey Wake]

Mew is not under that truck, I believe it was originally intended to drive you to a different area (Outside Kanto) but no, you can't do anything with it. Believe me, I searched and searched the entire world map for something to shift that truck and found nothing. I think the keys for the truck can actually b located in the Rocket Game corner but...you can't take them anywhere so...bust.

This is Wake, reporting live from one of the biggest computing centres in Scotland...thankfully it's not being used for work right now.

[WolvyDaPope]

Actually, Celebi was catchablr in one of the Pokemon Center Parades in New York, but since most people cannot go to New York to catch a Pokemon, it failed. Why? The thing that enfuriates me the most is not being able to catch Lugia in the FireRed/Leafgreen! Mewtwo isn't legendary enough, but Lugia is? Give me a break!
O well. Yeah, I also can't help but laugh when looking at the XD. I want Lugia in my Sapphire Version (maybe you will be able to steal Shadow Lugia and make him good)!

[R Hunter]

Yeah you can. It'll take a bit of effort but you'll be able to purifiy Lugia eventually. I'm not saying anything else, lest I spoil more gameplay for anyone thinking of buying the game.

[Bottles98]

Every Pokemon game after Red and Blue/Green has been a miss.

[Zy0n7]

Every Pokemon game after Red and Blue/Green has been a miss.
Well, gold & silver were great too.

[PenquinDude]

Not really. I like my sequels with more than a graphics overhaul, and a few name changes.

[ChaoticTH]

will someone sprite shadow lugia?

[WolvyDaPope]

Silver and Gold were good as they let you backtrack, unlike in the other sequels (although backtracking with three continents would be very tedious). I wish there was more to do in Pokemon GB/GBA advance games, other than being fully focued on catching 'em all and defeating the gym leaders.

I would buy/rent XD just to purify Lugia and import it into my Sapphire. Yes! Lugia! Sorry, but Lugia has always been my favorite Pokemon.

[Gruntling]

You would think with each rendition of Pokemon, the games would get really boring. But there's something that keeps them so addicting! I have to agree that Gold/Silver/Crystal were pretty decent. The only thing that irks me though are these "showcase" Pokemon in each version.

[PenquinDude]

Dragon Warrior Monsters was the F'ing bomb, but no one bought it because Pokemon was the 'Cool' thing. DWM had more advanced gameplay, better graphics, and a story with a kickass plot twist before every single game had to have one. And it's Dragon Warrior. Pokemon on the other hand, was the same game rehashed over and over again. RBY = :), GSC = :l, rest of them = :(.

[G_23]

You know, I never knew that Pokemon XD stood for "eXtra Dimension". I just always notice how whenever I turn my head it looks like a laughing smiley. Lol. Kinda like how Windows XP is, well, turn your head and find out.

Anyway, I was never a fan of Pokemon to be honest, but from what I've read from the reviews of the previous Pokemon console games, all Nintendo needs to do is make the console versions as good as the portable versions. I don't see how that's so hard! Look at Battalion Wars!...Oh wait.

[Kratos_Aurion]

On the topic of the Mew hoaxes, I was lied to by my cousins about that...twice. Once was the truck thing. They claimed it worked. The other was that you had to leave a Magikarp with the Pokemon babysitter until it got to level 49. Then you took it out, defeated some Ratattas on Route 1 with it, and when it evolved it would be Mew as well. I spent a whole 2 hour car trip to Cedar Point testing it (my friend had a Magikarp ready). Of course, it was probably payback for telling them the entire game script for the opening of Pokemon Yellow before they played it.

[WolvyDaPope]

Yeah, Mew cheats were the easiest to forge. You could quite literally say anything, and it would be believable. I heard one where you have to fly were the old guy who needs his coffee is, swim in the eastern coast of the island city for a while, then fly back to coffe guy, where you eventually fight him like a Pokemon. Catch him and he evolves into Mew or something.

I cannot wait to purify Lugia!

[Gruntling]

Yeah, Mew cheats were the easiest to forge. You could quite literally say anything, and it would be believable. I heard one where you have to fly were the old guy who needs his coffee is, swim in the eastern coast of the island city for a while, then fly back to coffe guy, where you eventually fight him like a Pokemon. Catch him and he evolves into Mew or something.

LOL! :D That is pretty believable! The only part that's pretty rediculous is actually catching the old guy!

[WolvyDaPope]

I actually believed him...until I heard the catching of the old guy part. There is a similar cheat that supposedly let you catch level 2-300 Pokemon on the coast of the island city. The guy said you could catch Mew and Arcanine and stuff like that. That one was just dumb.
If anyone cares, the Pokemon for Diamond Version pwn so far (only five have been released [the pre=evolved forms of Mr.Mime, Snorlax, and the tree Pokemon in S/G/C, the evolved form of Sneazel, and a legendary], but the legendary is awesome. I hope the gameplay in Diamond evolves, because better sprites aren't really enough to get me to buy it this time.

Has anyone played XD yet? I want to get an opinoin from someone.

EDIT: The real bomb was Digimon. Only the show was good, but it had a much deeper and more interesting plot than Pokemon did. But, Pokemon games were superior to Digimon games. I will have to check out Dragon Warrior Monsters.

[Gruntling]

EDIT: The real bomb was Digimon. Only the show was good, but it had a much deeper and more interesting plot than Pokemon did. But, Pokemon games were superior to Digimon games. I will have to check out Dragon Warrior Monsters.

Okay, I'll admit I used to watch the Pokemon TV show all the time, but the Digimon show was terrible! You actually thought it was good? :eek:

[Gaming Master2k]

I used to watch both, but the start of the digimon TV series was better than the later Pokemon ones, but that's just what I think...

[WolvyDaPope]

The good thing with the Pokemon TV show is that you really didn't have to see any of the other episodes to understand (may take 3 seconds, but you will eventually understand it).

Digimon, on the other hand, was surprisingly complex and forced you to watch every episode from the start in order to understand it at all. The Digimon show also constantly changed (Black Gears, then Black Spirals, DigiEggs, DNA Digivolve, and more). Plus, the Digivolution chain was the most complex thing on the planet. Any Digimon could literally Digivolve 4-8 stages, or fuse with three or more. Kind of a downside, but interesting if you see it all.

[Banjo's Banjo]

The good thing with the Pokemon TV show is that you really didn't have to see any of the other episodes to understand (may take 3 seconds, but you will eventually understand it).

Digimon, on the other hand, was surprisingly complex and forced you to watch every episode from the start in order to understand it at all. The Digimon show also constantly changed (Black Gears, then Black Spirals, DigiEggs, DNA Digivolve, and more). Plus, the Digivolution chain was the most complex thing on the planet. Any Digimon could literally Digivolve 4-8 stages, or fuse with three or more. Kind of a downside, but interesting if you see it all.

This is why Pokemon blew so heavily: The fact that every single episode was basically the same thing as the one before it. This led to a very flat plotline, as everything followed the same concept of 1)Ash and the gang meet somebody new who has some unique pokemon, 2)Team Rocket shows up and tries to kidnap said pokemon, and 3)Ash and the gang defeat them via electroshock therapy. Rinse, wash, repeat. That alone made it horrible. (Is this show even on still? I'd hope by now they would've canned it...)

As for Digimon, I can't say I've ever watched it, so I don't have an opinion on it.

[Kratos_Aurion]

Yeah, Pokemon is still on, and going strong. I don't see why that is still going, but not Digimon. I liked it better. Actually, I watched it through sixth grade, unitl they stopped making episodes. I loved Season 3, for some reason. Everyone pretty much hates it besides me. Oh, and the fact that the people have real emotions and not reflecty-moments-where-we-state-our-problems-and-feel-better helps. But seriously, I made a chart of all of the main characters, their American and Japanese names, their digivice colors, their digimon and what they digivolved into when I was in third grade. Yes, I was obsessed.

[WolvyDaPope]

Yeah, I was almost that obsessed. I actually would play the card game by myself. I liked seasons 1-3, but not 4 (did not like that the humans turned into Digimon, but the fusign of humans and Digimon was cool, as in Season 3).

[Blank]

Wolvy, I was a lot like that too. Playing Digimon card games, and watching the show. I look back on it now, and remember my funny obsession.

It was the same with Pokemon. I had the dream of collecting all 150 Pokemon in card and gameboy form. Then they dumped 1000 more in, and I quickly lost interest. I'm sure this XD game will sell well, most Pokemon games do. If they didn't, Nintendo would have quit a while ago. Though I can't say I'm interested. 4 years ago I might have been, but my tastes have changed drastically since then. Good times, though.

(Heh, when I saw the thread title a while back, I thought XD was a "homemade" Cartman smily)

[Gaming Master2k]

I used to love collecting the pokemon cards. I have full sets of the Base set, Jungle set and Fossil set. I also have lots of promos. I started getting the rocket set but then I lost interest as I started buying other things which meant my money supply was limited.

I still have those cards though and the sets would be in mint condition.

[Gruntling]

Yeah, Pokemon is still on, and going strong. I don't see why that is still going,

Me either. I remember watching the TV show when I was in sixth grade and that was seven years ago! I tried picking up on the show a few months ago because I seen that it was on, and maybe it's because I'm older now, but its gone way, way downhill. Where's Misty and Brock? When you replace them, you replace the show that it once was... Ash's Pokemon never seemed to evolve and the few that did, he gave away! :mad: (a.k.a. Butterfree, Charizard, Pigeot) Not to mention Pikachu's really annoying and they HAVE to use him for every single episode. There's over 300 Pokemon to choose from, but no! They HAVE to use Pikachu. All those factors show have led to the show's demise years ago, but it still keeps on ticking... Oh well.

I still have those cards though and the sets would be in mint condition.

Keep them a few more years and they might be worth something! I don't think they'd be as popular as say, baseball cards, but they'll probably fetch a pretty penny someday. I still have mine too... somewhere. :rolleyes:

[WolvyDaPope]

I stayed hooked to Pokemon until the end of the Neo sets (as I started with Pokemon Silver as my first version). I have some pretty valuable cards, but not a complete set. I once had this ubervaluable card (1st Edition Holographic Blaine's Arcanine Card), but I lost it with my Japanese Holographic Rocket's Mewtwo. :(

[Kaz da Breegull]

Ahaha, I'm a die-hard Digimon fan. :p Loved it for over seven years, and I still do! Digimon Adventure Zero Two was my favorite. However, don't get me wrong; I love Pokemon, and I even like the anime. It's cute and silly, and it doesn't deserve the bad reputation it gets from most other anime fans.

I still have all of my Pokemon cards! I remember back when the base set Charizard was THE card to have; who else still has their Charizard?

[Zy0n7]

I still have my 1st edition holographic gyarados, poliwrath, mewtwo, and many more that I don't remember ><

[Banjo's Banjo]

I still have all of my Pokemon cards! I remember back when the base set Charizard was THE card to have; who else still has their Charizard?

For me, $150 in cash right before the game lost it's momentum (ala..I think it was Fossil or something. It's been a long time now.) > keeping the card. ;) Plus by that point, I was getting out the Pokemon phase anyways, so I had no reason, sentimental or otherwise, to keep the card. (Or anything else for that matter: I gave the rest away to friends that were still into it at the time.)

Oddly enough though, I have an Item Finder plastered up against the back wall of my closet. I think it's the only Pokemon item I still have left (other than Pokemon Blue, which is probably sitting with all my video game stuff shoved in some dark area of my closet.)