Micro$oft poll

[Tanjo]

1. Do you think microsoft is slowly eating away at the video game industry?

2. From wikipedia- The next generation of consoles is key for Rare. Xbox 360 is reliant on Rare games for its launch, including Perfect Dark Zero, a prequel to Nintendo 64's smash hit Perfect Dark, which had originally been planned for both the GameCube and Xbox. Rare's Perfect Dark Zero sold moderately well during the Xbox 360's launch, but was not the break away hit Microsoft wanted. Rare's other Xbox 360 launch title, Kameo: Elements of Power, flopped in sales at launch. If the Xbox 360 sells poorly (as it is doing in Japan; see here for more information), Rare will find themselves in a worse position than they ever were with Nintendo, since the company's only Xbox games, Grabbed by the Ghoulies and Conker: Live and Reloaded, have sold extremely poorly. If, however, the Xbox 360 becomes successful, Rare could recapture its former glory of the days of the Nintendo 64. Rare currently has at least two Nintendo DS and two Xbox 360 games in the works. - if this happens, what do you think will be the impact on rare?

3. Do you own an xbox/xbox360?

4. What is your opinion on microsoft game consoles and games?

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1. Yes, they are trying to controll all video game entertainment.

2. I think rare will be forced back to nintendo. Besides, they've released more gba games than they have xbox and xbox360 games combined, so they should just ditch microsoft.

3. No, but i will have to get one if banjo threeie is released on it.

4. I think it is just another scheme for bill gates to make his endless river of money bigger. Ive lost nearly all respect for rare since they left nintendo.

[Gold Jinjo]

1. I don't mind Microsoft... they've actually done something for the industry with Xbox Live. What the flip has Sony done? They rode the wave of anti-Nintendoism, giving them extreme illusions of grandeur and a false sense of security in the #1 slot. Microsoft is going to kill Sony, and I couldn't be happier. ***** Sony.

2. Nothing is going to happen to Rare. They're just as slow releasing games on the Xbox as they ever were on a Nintendo console. The reason they've put out more Nintendo handheld products is because those games were already in the works and were a lot more easier to make than console titles. It's easier to convert Diddy Kong Pilot into Banjo-Pilot than it is to port Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Kameo and Perfect Dark to completely different systems. People read way too much into that.

3. I've had an Xbox for 2... maybe 3 years. I very much plan on getting an Xbox 360, but I've no idea when that will be.

4. I have respect for the Xbox. Neither Bill Gates nor Steve Ballmer (who is actually more evil than Gates, by the way) really have anything to do with the Xbox -- that's all Microsoft Game Studios. They've done a good job. The Xbox is a decent platform.

Anyway...

2. I think rare will be forced back to nintendo. Besides, they've released more gba games than they have xbox and xbox360 games combined, so they should just ditch microsoft.

They can't just "ditch" Microsoft... they're 100% wholly owned by them. Besides, Rare with Nintendo won't be much different than it was before, and it won't be much different than Rare with Microsoft. They are a very slow, perfectionist development studio. People are just pissy because they are no longer with Nintendo. Boo-fricken-hoo. They could have been bought out and disassembled or outsourced :p

4. I think it is just another scheme for bill gates to make his endless river of money bigger. Ive lost nearly all respect for rare since they left nintendo.

Funny how people still think Rare just left. Nintendo got rid of them like yesterday's garbage. Why is that difficult to comprehend? Nintendo didn't want Rare anymore. They pretty much said "Here, take your shares and piss off". Be mad at Nintendo.

[holyice7]

1. In the greatest sense, no. Competition is good, as it makes companies strive to put out good games. Look back at the glory days of Nintendo v. Sega. The list of great games goes on. So great, they are being played as ports more than some new releses today.

2. You aren't really supposed to use Wikipedia as a credible source. I love the site, don't get me wrong, but don't list it at the end of your research essay.

3. No. I can't afford one, and my access to used hardware is limited.

4. Consoles: The X-box has a big, clunky controller. I like to call it the bear claw design. I don't like the 'clicker' button under the control sticks much, either. It may just be me, but I find it pretty damn hard to aim while applying that much pressure to the control stick to zoom. Not good for fine movements. And lastly; the moving parts on the disc drive. Too easy to get broken. Everything I didn't mention, I don't mind too much.

If I may digress for a moment, I'm not a fan of the PS2 controller either. The way it's designed, you have to let it rest beginning to slide down your index fingers. I prefer to call it the lazy man's controller, because it seems like you aren't supposed to care while you're holding it. Though teenagers playing sports games do hold a high level of apathy...

[Banjzooie]

If anything, MS's competition has spurred Nintendo and Sony to work harder. I agree with Gold, nothing will really happen to Rare, they'll be as slow as they've always been. I don't own an XBox or a 360, not out of Nintendo fanboyism (those days are long over for me), but simply because I'm not interested in any games on the system.

I hate how people constantly bash Microsoft. The terms "Micro$oft", "M$", and "Bill Gate$" really make me mad. So what if Bill Gates has more money than anyone else? He's earned it! He's the perfect model of capitalistic success! I don't always like how MS tends to monopolize a bit, but it's nothing worth crying over.

[Soulreaper41392]

1. yes I DO think they are destroying the industry. why? because all console designers are preaching that they want to make gaming more accessible, and so is Microsoft. yet they are make them aming more and more difficult, seeing as you HAVE to know what the different between the core and premium ones are, what a hard drive will do for you, as some people might now know that you can save games to it and they will think "oh well i'll get the core one" and then they have been screwed by microsoft. and backwards compatibility is harder know too. when i wanted to play a playstation game on my ps2 all I had to do was pop the disc in and it would play. but with the XBox 360 not all games are playable and if they are, you must get on XBox live, which is something that not all of us can do mind you, download a patch to play the game THEN play. what the hell? THAT is supposed to make me get into gaming easier?! nope. And besides they KILLED all their support of the original Xbox, leaving those of us that wont own a 360 until the sky-high price drops screwed with nothin new to play. you dont do that to your fans microsoft. that is wrong. i mean the playstation had a steady stream of releases going long after it should have died. and the core/premium is the most jerk-assed thing ive ever seen.

2. Its just that microsoft is a gorier system, which is fine with me, but for some reason it has tainted Rare's odd humor. I dont know where Rare should be. thats just because ive never seen them work on the GCN before. I actually have a feeling that they would be better off with Nintendo cause, it just seems natural. they do better on a system with less realistic graphics. the conker remake seemed unneeded, which makes me wonder if microsoft MADE them do it. a sequel whould have been better. If microsoft doesnt see much profits from these games they are making they might sell Rare to someone else, maybe Nintendo? And by the way, ONE of the TWO games that is being made by Rare is called Piñata or something, so the chances for Threeie are slimer.

3.no i dont but if they find a way to make it smaller or i get more room for consoles, then i'll definately get an Xbox. as for the 360.......i dont see the need unless Threeie appears......but something tells me that if it does it wont be good cause item-collecting died a while ago, even if we still find it to be fun.

4. its a good console, very powerful, but microsoft and Bill Gates is a total jerk-ass. i dont hate the consoles, just the designers. they dont have much variance in their games either. its all mostly "shoot shoot kill kill!", which i like but i play all games not just those ones, i need some RPGS in the mix dammit! which is why i have a PS2. every thing else i think about them is in my first answer.

[Soulreaper41392]

Funny how people still think Rare just left. Nintendo got rid of them like yesterday's garbage. Why is that difficult to comprehend? Nintendo didn't want Rare anymore. They pretty much said "Here, take your shares and piss off". Be mad at Nintendo.[/QUOTE]

i find that fact to be very weird seeing as Rare was doing excellently with Nintendo, its not like they were making suck games, which makes me wonder what might the GCNs future would have been like with Rare. maybe Nintendo didnt like the direction Rare was going in. who knows?

sorry for the double post, i couldnt figure out how to post this without doing it.

[Icy Guy]

Funny how people still think Rare just left. Nintendo got rid of them like yesterday's garbage. Why is that difficult to comprehend? Nintendo didn't want Rare anymore. They pretty much said "Here, take your shares and piss off". Be mad at Nintendo.
...I think I'm going to build a shrine devoted to you.

Er, right. Questions, answers.

1) No. They've made two good consoles, brought consistent online gaming into the console world, provided platforms for some great releases, and made games that appeal to my tastes. Obviously, they've made games that appeal to many other peoples' tastes, otherwise I wouldn't encounter so many people on Live day in and day out. Downloadable games via the Xbox Live Arcade were a great idea, and you can find some damn good games on there, like Geometry Wars. And don't even get me started on custom soundtracks. Microsoft has also done something no other console maker has done: create patches and downloadable content for games. They've created some good competition and actually gave Sony a run for their money in the last generation of console wars. Additionally, they went out of their way to add backwards-compatibility to the list of 360 features; they didn't have to, and it's certainly extremely difficult, what with the vast differences between the two machines, but they did, and I can play a selection of my Xbox games (but no Doom 3 :() on my 360, with updates every few months that increase the number of games.

(BTW: Sony basically dropped support for the PSX/PS1 when the PS2 came out, and Nintendo didn't exactly keep the rate of N64 releases up when the GCN came out, either. As for updating the 360 backwards-compatibility list, you can do it without connecting to Live. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardscompatibility.htm) And the Core/Premium deal is for people who bitch about a console + accesories setting them back $400, forgetting that most other consoles launched at $250-$300+.)

While I'm still on this question, I'd like to list the 360 games I own for the purpose of illustrating the variety of genres found in 360 games. This includes Live Arcade titles.

-Perfect Dark Zero - first-person shooter
-Kameo - adventure
-Project Gotham Racing 3 - arcade/sim racing
-Dead or Alive 4 - fighting
-Full Auto - car combat (sub-genre of racing)
-Geometry Wars - retro, Asteroids-style 3rd person space shooter
-Hexic HD - puzzle
-Marble Blast Ultra - platformer; think Marble Madness

So much for the "first-person shooter wars" Mr. Fils-Aime was talking about.

2) Oh, wow. Poor sales in Japan. IF THE JAPANESE DON'T LIKE IT, THEN IT MUST BE BAD.

Give me a break.

The reason that PDZ was not a "breakaway hit" was because so many people wanted it to be Halo 3. Obviously, it wasn't, as it focused a bit more on stealth than Halo - something the average Team Slayer-lovin' Halo freak can't comprehend. But you know what? Rare must've done something right, because, as of this week, PDZ is the 3rd most popular game on Live (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/featured/), behind Call of Duty 2 and Halo 2. Kameo didn't sell as well as some people thought it would because it didn't have multiplayer and it sometimes felt a bit too much like the collect-a-thons of the N64 days if you wanted 100%, not to mention that it wasn't macho enough for many members of the 360-launch-day-purchasing crowd. Once 360's become more widely available to people under the 18-30 crowd (which'll be when all the 11 year-olds start flooding into 360 games on Live :no: ), Kameo will sell better.

Regardless of how the the 360 does, Rare is still going to release their games. Now that they can develop games at the start of the console's lifespan and acquaint themselves with the hardware, they have a better chance of churning out some dazzling product.

The "Viva Piñata" codename is quite clever - it subtly conveys the message that Microsoft is beat Nintendo. You hit piñatas with a stick. Piñatas are often shaped like donkeys. Donkey Kong is one of Nintendo's biggest franchises. Ahh, marketing.

3) I own both: got an Xbox at Christmas 2003, Xbox 360 on launch day (November 22nd). Glad to own 'em, 'cause they've given me some good games and good times.

4) As I said before, the consoles have provided me with good games and good times, so I like. And I'll continue to like as long as they keep making stuff that's worth buying.

i find that fact to be very weird seeing as Rare was doing excellently with Nintendo, its not like they were making suck games, which makes me wonder what might the GCNs future would have been like with Rare. maybe Nintendo didnt like the direction Rare was going in. who knows?
Nintendo wanted money to buy...Retro Studios, was it?...and Rare wasn't putting out games fast enough for them. They claimed that Rare accounted for "only" 9.5% of Nintendo's profits in 2001, and only 1.5% in 2002. But I'm not going to complain, as I don't have to buy a GCN to play future Rare releases.

I hate how people constantly bash Microsoft. The terms "Micro$oft", "M$", and "Bill Gate$" really make me mad. So what if Bill Gates has more money than anyone else? He's earned it! He's the perfect model of capitalistic success! I don't always like how MS tends to monopolize a bit, but it's nothing worth crying over.
Word. It's a shame that so few people think this way. :(

[repobanjo]

Besides, Bill Gates has given 58% of his monry to charity. You call that greedy?

[Gold Jinjo]

which makes me wonder what might the GCNs future would have been like with Rare.

We'd still only have Ghoulies, Kameo and Perfect Dark. Wow, that's a lot of games... :p

Nintendo was right to get rid of them. Rare probably would have ended up costing Nintendo money.

[Tanjo]

See, the thing about most microsoft gamers is that they think that tons of hardware and advanced graphics are the only ingredients in a good game.

[Andre]

See, the thing about most microsoft gamers is that they think that tons of hardware and advanced graphics are the only ingredients in a good game.

How did you find this out?

[Tanjo]

personal experience, mostly discussing gaming in school and such.

[Gold Jinjo]

See, the thing about most microsoft gamers is that they think that tons of hardware and advanced graphics are the only ingredients in a good game.

That's not just limited to "microsoft gamers". That's pretty much mainstream gaming these days. It's pathetic and sad, but you can't blame it on Microsoft.

[Tanjo]

That's not just limited to "microsoft gamers". That's pretty much mainstream gaming these days. It's pathetic and sad, but you can't blame it on Microsoft.


Yes, thats true

[Gruntling]

1. No. I think Microsoft is actually expanding the games industry. With such hits as Halo 1 and 2, I believe we've seen a boost in the number of people who play video games. Microsoft's created a new platform for developers to reach that isn't Nintendo or Sony and that can be seen as good sign of competition and hopefully motivate other video game developers to give you the best games possible. I think that destroy is a harsh term, rather I think that Microsoft is mutating the video game industry in a fashion to best fit them.

2. Whether Rare does good or bad this generation, I hesitate to say I'm pessimistic about their future. I can't say that since Rare has said goodbye to Nintendo, that I've been totally impressed by their games. Time is the only answer as to whether or not Rare returns to its glory days, but from my perspective it's not soon.

3. I don't own an Xbox or an Xbox 360. I've haven't seen many games that I truly "must have". The few that have really perked my interests aren't enough to warrant me purchasing a new console. If Banjo-Threeie comes out however I'll probably change my tune.

4. When Microsoft first entered the console market I was mighty skeptical that they would do well. Now, I know they're here to stay! My official opinion on that of the Xbox and its successor and all of their games is neutral. I don't own anything so I can't really say much on it since I don't have the grounds to speak. However, I can say this: I wish Microsoft would be more innovative. Sometimes I think the Xbox 360 is simply a glorified media center that's lost its touch with the heart of video gaming.

[Banjzooie]

Besides, Bill Gates has given 58% of his monry to charity. You call that greedy?

I'd forgotten all about that! Score for Repo! But yeah, the thing is, a lot of people forget that Gates gives so much to charity.

Bill Gates is a total jerk-ass

*Points to Repo's previous post*

Microsoft is going to kill Sony, and I couldn't be happier. ***** Sony.

I agree with you on that to an extent. I don't really like how Sony has become the "cool" of video games. Not to mention their gaming products aren't always that durable. But, through all that and despite the fact that I don't have a PS2, PS1 or a PSP, I have to acknowledge that they're all good systems, they all have some good games. I cannot tell you how much I wanted to play Kingdom Hearts and couldn't because it wasn't for GCN. The only reason I don't have a PS2 is because, like with the XBox, although it's a good console there aren't enough games on it that peak my interest. Kingdom Hearts is just a single game.

I've gone a bit off topic here... Plus with this particular post I'm kinda running the danger of starting an unintentional flame/console war as it is. And the console wars are not what this topic is about. It's about whether or not MS is eating the game industry. As before, I still say they're improving the industry.

Edit:

I wish Microsoft would be more innovative. Sometimes I think the Xbox 360 is simply a glorified media center that's lost its touch with the heart of video gaming.

Yeah, I can identify with that statement. Xbox games aren't always innovative, though hopefully Rare can change that. But there are some innovative ones from third parties, I bet. I can't say as I've only played a couple Xbox games.

Also, I must confess that I used to be a hopeless Nintendo fanboy, right up from the point where I played the NES at 2 or 3 years old up until about halfway-through last year. I would happily bash and kick Microsoft and Sony to a pulp. It took my friend turning from Nintendo to Sony-fanboyism (since Sony has become "cool") to make me realize just how stupid (and immature) fanboyism is.

[Gold Jinjo]

Sometimes I think the Xbox 360 is simply a glorified media center that's lost its touch with the heart of video gaming.

I agree. I hate this "media hub" that Microsoft and Sony are getting into. Game consoles should just play games, and sticking to that would dramatically reduce the cost of manufacturing these systems as well as the lowering the final retail price of these systems. I think Microsoft would kick so much more arse than they are if they just abandoned this extra stuff, just because these systems would then be much more financially accessible.

I'm reading reports that the PS3 is going to retail around $900. Yeah. How many parents will be getting their kids a PS3 for Christmas at that price? Parents who don't know where to draw the line between good parenting and spoiling their kids rotten. I bet that price doesn't even include the Maytag refrigerator you'll need to cool the PS3 down.

[holyice7]

The PS3 won't retail at $900, there's no way. It might cost $900 to manufacture, but it will sell for much less, in that they are hoping that the cost of construction will go down over time. If the parts don't drop in price fast enough, it may just get pushed back further. Speaking of which, how much was the big M losing on every 360 for the first few months? Around $150, $160? That area?

I hate this "media hub" that Microsoft and Sony are getting into. Game consoles should just play games, and sticking to that would dramatically reduce the cost of manufacturing these systems as well as the lowering the final retail price of these systems.

I agree wholeheartedly. Nintendo actually said almost the same thing just before the GCN came out, after a question was posed to them about the lack of DVD features on their new system.

[Hakey Wake]

1. Do you think microsoft is slowly eating away at the video game industry?

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft end up on top eventually. I've been in two minds over this for awhile, I really don't like Sony...so I thought the prospect of having Microsoft on top was fine, Nintendo would still have their niche and I'd basically still get the games I want to play. Now I think that if Microsoft usurp Sony we may simply be reduced to wave upon wave of FPS after sports title after racing game...repeat. I'm pretty sure I'd like Nintendo back on top but you know...they'd probably screw it up somehow.

Ideally, I think, it should be 33% Nintendo, 33% Microsoft, 33% Sony all vying for our £££...but that's only in a perfect world.

2. From wikipedia-- if this happens, what do you think will be the impact on rare?

Rare will still develop games for Microsoft? Because...Microsoft own them? I don't care much either way since Rare are pretty much dead to me now.

3. Do you own an xbox/xbox360?

I have recently aquired an Xbox after years of blind hatred towards it. The 360 doesn't have any software (I'm interested in) now or in the near future to warrant a purchase.

4. What is your opinion on microsoft game consoles and games?

Competition is good for the industry and the Xbox was a very solid first attempt by a newcomer, the 360 is still young and having never spent much time with one I can't say anymore about it. I just hope that with Microsoft, it stays at the "competition" level and doesn't become a monopoly.

[s.w.a.t]

I hate Sony. They make things expensive, and they don't even have good games. And if a system costs $900 to manufacture, that's to much. Cut back on the features. Do you really need MP3 storage space when you could just listen to it on your stereo or computer or something? My TV doesn't have as good quality sound.
And Microsoft. They focus to much on more mature titles. All they have is FPS, Racing, and good graphics. Which don't even suppoort on a regular tv. I've seen videos of the games in HD on my TV. It can display them. For $400, they shopuld make the graphics better.
As for Nintendo. I think they are going a little overboard on this one. I mean. it mis a cool idea to have a motion sensor remote controller, but it is not as good as it sounds. Who really wants to swing the sword every time in Super Smash Brothers. Plus, if your hands aren't completly steady, like mine, the use for an FPS would not be good.
This would be great if Sega or Atari made a system (I know they don't have the funds, but I can dream) focused on gameplay and not all these extra things. I would definatly buy that.
As for the PSP, it sucks. Only one good game, horrible control, and low framerate. The DS is much better. That's my two cents.

[Icy Guy]

Now I think that if Microsoft usurp Sony we may simply be reduced to wave upon wave of FPS after sports title after racing game...repeat.
And Microsoft. They focus to much on more mature titles. All they have is FPS, Racing, and good graphics.

...I'd like to list the 360 games I own for the purpose of illustrating the variety of genres found in 360 games. This includes Live Arcade titles.

-Perfect Dark Zero - first-person shooter
-Kameo - adventure
-Project Gotham Racing 3 - arcade/sim racing
-Dead or Alive 4 - fighting
-Full Auto - car combat (sub-genre of racing)
-Geometry Wars - retro, Asteroids-style 3rd person space shooter
-Hexic HD - puzzle
-Marble Blast Ultra - platformer; think Marble Madness

So much for the "first-person shooter wars" Mr. Fils-Aime was talking about.

[s.w.a.t]

I'm not saying that that is all they do, it is just what they focus on, and where most of their good games are.

[Gold Jinjo]

I don't really think Microsoft says one way or another, do they? Microsoft doesn't make the games, the developers do. And then it's the publishers, like EA Games, who tell the developers "this is what you're going to do".

Of course, all of EA's games are crap... so that's a bad example :p

[Tanjo]

I own a ps2 for the following reasons:

It has the largest selection of games
Its not really focused on competition
It has moderate features, like playing music and dvds, but not alot.
If i read about it im not going to hear it has 29475gzh of petrolium menthane and a 95685876586hrtz power drive with a quantinum brain denamonator like the xbox360.

I own a gambecube because:

Nintendo focuses on games, not shiny graphics, not dvd capabillities, not a microwave oven, games. Also its nice to play a mario game every once in a while.

I dont own an xbox/360 because:

You are all right. I want to play a game. Do i look like i care if it has a hard drive? No, because my computer has a hard drive. Do i look like i want to listen to a custom music track while playing a game? No, i have a burner and a cd player for that. Do i look like i want to use an xbox for watching movies? No, i have a dvd player for that. It also has a crappy selection of games. And most of them are ported by 3rd party companies.

[Hakey Wake]

Teh_list

Owned, but in my defense there's no F-Zero on there. :p

...Which is a racing game...)&^*&%!

[Soulreaper41392]

i was saying that Billy was a jerk-ass because of how he treats his fans of the Xbox. i can understand a hard drive in a system because in the long run it will save me memory cards that i have to buy. custom tracks are only good for certain games, like GTA that have suck ass soundtracks. godammit if San Andreas takes place in the 90's then i wanna hear some Slipknot or other good music, not RATM or STP! the Xbox truly does have the same old stuff over and over again and ive gotten used to Nintendos innovation things. and how can you say that the PS2 has no good games? it has loads of good ones, especially if your into RPGs, and the Jak and Daxter series is one of the best platform game series I have played in years. Jak 2 ranks VERY high on my best platformers, yet you say its not good (ok so no one SAID it but I take it that you dont like it.) ? i mean, great gameplay, great graphics, awesome story, sweet controls...........its beautiful. the PSP is a good SYSTEM, but as for the games, they are crap. never say that a system sucks because it has no good games on it. say it sucks because it doesnt even have half of the power that an Atari 2600 had. The only reason Im intrested in the PSP is 1. Great, Quality movies on it, 2. Daxter (nuff said). systems dont HAVE to have a dvd player, but from a developer point of view, "If it plays DVD-ROM, why not have it play DVDs?" because i mean basically they run thru the same place in the system. but i DONT need a cd player, DVD player, can opener, washing machine and a dishwasher on my system! give backwards compatibility, and if your gonna make a sequel to the system (such as the 360) at LEAST update the graphics noticably. i mean when i played the 360 in the store i was like, "whatever, these look nearly identical to the old ones.", yet when i played the psx then got my ps2 i was like "HOLY S**T! THIS ROCKS!" and fell of my chair, thats how i should feel while playing a new system for the first time. like the first ds experince. GRaphics only matter a little bit to me but there are a couple of game that are made UNPLAYABLE by their own graphics, such as Rayman DS. i was hittin trees, steppin on spikes because i couldnt see them! i mean I'll certainly go play Dragon Warrior 1 even though the graphics may be crap by todays standard, i find them to be quite nice. PS2 is the "cool" in gaming these days, it just has some pretty good games, all systems do have them, but the PS2 has more of them.

[Gold Jinjo]

Is it just me, or does everyone else's eyes just melt trying to read all that?

Paragraphs, dude ;)

[s.w.a.t]

Is it just me, or does everyone else's eyes just melt trying to read all that?

Paragraphs, dude ;)
I didn't even try. It hurt my eyes and did that whole moving text optical thingiemabobber.

[Banjzooie]

Is it just me, or does everyone else's eyes just melt trying to read all that?

Paragraphs, dude ;)

I can't really talk, seeing as how I used to type like that only a couple weeks ago. I never used paragraphs outside of formal reports, until I realized that not using them makes it hard for anyone to read your posts.

[Soulreaper41392]

fine you sissies :D i retyped it so your eyes wont "melt".

i was saying that Billy was a jerk-ass because of how he treats his fans of the Xbox. i can understand a hard drive in a system because in the long run it will save me memory cards that i have to buy. custom tracks are only good for certain games, like GTA that have suck ass soundtracks. godammit if San Andreas takes place in the 90's then i wanna hear some Slipknot or other good music, not RATM or STP! the Xbox truly does have the same old stuff over and over again and ive gotten used to Nintendos innovation things.

and how can you say that the PS2 has no good games? it has loads of good ones, especially if your into RPGs, and the Jak and Daxter series is one of the best platform game series I have played in years. Jak 2 ranks VERY high on my best platformers, yet you say its not good (ok so no one SAID it but I take it that you dont like it.) ? i mean, great gameplay, great graphics, awesome story, sweet controls...........its beautiful.

the PSP is a good SYSTEM, but as for the games, they are crap. never say that a system sucks because it has no good games on it. say it sucks because it doesnt even have half of the power that an Atari 2600 had. The only reason Im intrested in the PSP is 1. Great, Quality movies on it, 2. Daxter (nuff said).

systems dont HAVE to have a dvd player, but from a developer point of view, "If it plays DVD-ROM, why not have it play DVDs?" because i mean basically they run thru the same place in the system. but i DONT need a cd player, DVD player, can opener, washing machine and a dishwasher on my system! give backwards compatibility, and if your gonna make a sequel to the system (such as the 360) at LEAST update the graphics noticably. i mean when i played the 360 in the store i was like, "whatever, these look nearly identical to the old ones.", yet when i played the psx then got my ps2 i was like "HOLY S**T! THIS ROCKS!" and fell of my chair, thats how i should feel while playing a new system for the first time. like the first ds experince.

Graphics only matter a little bit to me but there are a couple of game that are made UNPLAYABLE by their own graphics, such as Rayman DS. i was hittin trees, steppin on spikes because i couldnt see them! i mean I'll certainly go play Dragon Warrior 1 even though the graphics may be crap by todays standard, i find them to be quite nice. PS2 isnt the "cool" in gaming these days, it just has some pretty good games, all systems do have them, but the PS2 has more of them.

[Ice Lightning]

It would have been a lot easier to go back and edit it into paragaphs.

Anyway if I see something that's hard to read like that, I find that highlighting what I've read makes it a lot easier to read.

[Gruntling]

It's was very good reply Soulreaper, but all that text smushed together is hard to swallow when you first see it! :D

[s.w.a.t]

You're right Soulreaper. The PSP is a good system, but the games suck, and the graphics are to good for the framerate. Plus, I don't want console gaming on handhelds, I want handheld games on the handheld.
Plus, for 400 dollars, the X-Box can have better graphics. Just make it a square and add the extra hardware needed to the space you just filled. My T.V. can display those graphics, since I've seen the trailers on my T.V.

[Soulreaper41392]

It's was very good reply Soulreaper, but all that text smushed together is hard to swallow when you first see it! :D

yea i see that now that i try to read it, but hey it was 11 in the morning and I had an ear infectiong which equals extreme pain and dizziness, so i didnt know what I was doing. :eek:

[s.w.a.t]

yea i see that now that i try to read it, but hey it was 11 in the morning and I had an ear infectiong which equals extreme pain and dizziness, so i didnt know what I was doing. :eek:
That's roight, blame it on the butterflies. :mad:

[Soulreaper41392]

That's roight, blame it on the butterflies. :mad:

fine you know what? i blame YOU! ^_^

[Andre]

You're right Soulreaper. The PSP is a good system, but the games suck, and the graphics are to good for the framerate.

Lumines. 'Nuff said.

[Gold Jinjo]

You're right Soulreaper. The PSP is a good system, but the games suck, and the graphics are to good for the framerate.

The PSP has games? No, seriously, all I see are movies in UMD format. If the PSP has games, I'd sure as hell like to know what bloody planet they're sold on :p

[Hakey Wake]

Hold up hold up, what's going on here? (http://xbox360.ign.com/index/reviews.html)


Shooter - 9
Sports - 10
Racing - 4
Total - 23

Total Games - 39

I don't think "shooter" means FPS though, since Geometry Wars is under that genre aswell...I thought it should be under action...there's most probably other "debatable" software there too, but that's just what I think.

[Gruntling]

Meh... Now I know why I don't want a PSP. I don't particularly care for FPS games or really any kind of shooter for that matter. Resident Evil 4 is the closest thing in my collection and that's the only FPS I own! Sports games are way boring most of the time, so I usually steer clear of them. And racing games alone aren't enough to uphold my enthusiasm... Tell me, where are the adventure games and platformers?! :no:

[s.w.a.t]

Residnet Evil 4 isn't a FPS. That's why it's so diffrent. IUts the first good TPS since Jet Force Jemini.

[Tanjo]

wow this thread really went off topic! The psp isnt worth it. There is no good games for it. Not to mention the fact that the psp is way more pixelated than the ds.