Noah's Ark Discovered, Atheist's Everywhere Go Into Denial

[Articerile]

FINNALY! ( thank you Nate)
you Atheists do believe, but in science..
did u know, that a theory.... It's a Theory!!
No proof, no one can claim, that there was a big bang..
No one can survive a HUGE big bang right ?

I punched my monitor at this.

SERIOUSLY SHUT UP!
THINK.

No one CAN survive a big bang, however there was NO-ONE ALIVE AT THE TIME TO DIE!

[WareRarez]

I already illustrated exactly why not

Allright, but i guess, that this conversation has to stop :P
u ppl can discuss this thread like days, weeks, months !
and still : The atheists stays atheist,
Believers stays believer.

!!!! :D

@ Articerile

No one CAN survive it, so no one CAN claim that there was a big BANG! ;)

[Yiffgurl]

Guys, the troll's gonna get a tummy ache if you feed it too much.

That tummy ache is pretty much what I'm trying to accomplish here

[DekuScrubby]

I'll look into that sometime. But I still have to bring up, "How did the Big Bang occur? Where did that speck of dust come from?" Getting something from nothing really doesn't make any sense to me.


Oh, and DekuScrubby, thanks for a very informative response. I appreciate it. :)

This is where the theory comes in. These are the kinds of things scientists try to find out. There are theories such as a super-dense ball of matter as opposed to complete nothingness, or the theory of oscillating universes in which a Big Bang occurs immediately after the destruction or 'Big Crunch' of a previous universe, which would explain where all the matter came from. The object of this area of science is to try and find out which, if any of these theories are true.

And you're welcome, glad to be of service.

[Topmonhit]

You originally said insult. "Make fun of" doesn't exactly soften the blow. It just shows that this is all just a superiority thing.

Yeah, I know. I was thinking of someone else, actually. "Makin' fun of" is the correct term when it comes to me, as I don't want to offend anyone so much as get them to laugh at themselves. Especially since I like to make fun of myself, too. ...and where I live... and when I live... and just about anything that I can plausibly make a joke out of.

I just don't tend to find things I can make a joke out of in science.

"So a proton and a neutron walk into a bar together..."

[Breegullbeak]

I punched my monitor at this.

SERIOUSLY SHUT UP!
THINK.

No one CAN survive a big bang, however there was NO-ONE ALIVE AT THE TIME TO DIE!

How would you know? There could have very well been a carbon based organism floating about in nothing before being wiped out by a huge explosion.

[Nate_825]

Oh, so you don't believe in God then? Or am I mistaken?

I'm just bringing up the fact that both are theories. I told you, I wasn't bring my beliefs into the mix.

Well, I got to get going. I have things to do. So I'm just going to end it on my part. Its pretty much pointless. G'night RWP.

[Articerile]

How would you know? There could have very well been a carbon based organism floating about in nothing before being wiped out by a huge explosion.

If that's true, then the organism would survive.
But that's irrelevant.

[Siege]

"So a proton and a neutron walk into a bar together..."

And they have a few drinks and the proton professes his feelings to the neutron in a drunken uninhibited rant. And the neutron says, "Sorry, I'm just not attracted to you."

[DekuScrubby]

How would you know? There could have very well been a carbon based organism floating about in nothing before being wiped out by a huge explosion.

Is it even worth mentioning a carbon based life form would need some form of sustenance in order to survive?

No, it isn't, because there's nothing to suggest this life form ever existed.

[Breegullbeak]

If that's true, then the organism would survive.
But that's irrelevant.

But that is a someone! Therefore there could have been somthing before the Big Bang.(If that ever happend)

Edit: There was a lot of hydrogen around back then, all in a convenient ball... possibly.

[WareRarez]

And they have a few drinks and the proton professes his feelings to the neutron in a drunken uninhibited rant. And the neutron says, "Sorry, baby, I'm just not attracted to you."

and then ? what happens next ? :P

[R Hunter]

...Damnit can we not go one month without one of these things rising from hell?

[WareRarez]

Where did God come from?

God has always been here..
I know, because I believe ;)

[Articerile]

God has always been here..
I know, because I believe ;)

Then the stuff that exploded had always been there.
I can use this as a legitimate answer because apparantly thinking something makes it right.

[Breegullbeak]

It can be funny if you make them sterotypes, but thats against the rules here so they have to remain unfunny.

[WareRarez]

Finnaly, the Religion thread stopped, and the believers wins!! ( like always! )
Next thread: .... ?
LOL >:~) << Octo !

[Articerile]

Finnaly, the Religion thread stopped, and the believers wins!! ( like always! )
Next thread: .... ?
LOL >:~)

What?
When did the thread stop and when did you win?

[WareRarez]

What?
When did the thread stop and when did you win?

Since 3 minutes earlier :D
Hehehehe !

[Kaiser]

You know what didn't have an anwser around 200 years ago? The egg and the chicken, we used to play this game until evolution proved this one.

To ask "WUT MADE IT BING BUNG? HAHAHA U SILLY ATHEIST" is playing this game but one side is not gonna bother looking for the truth.

Also, this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIm2H0ksawg&playnext_from=TL&videos=laFr0ZUtsvI

[Topmonhit]

What?
When did the thread stop and when did you win?

Oh didn't you get the latest news, the apocalypse just happened.

All that really happened was the clouds parted and it started raining onions. The place smelled horrible and then god appeared with his giant omnipotent air freshener and made the world smell like orange breeze.

...

I dislike the smell.

[Articerile]

Oh didn't you get the latest news, the apocalypse just happened.

All that really happened was the clouds parted and it started raining onions. The place smelled horrible and then god appeared with his giant omnipotent air freshener and made the world smell like orange breeze.

...

I dislike the smell.

That explains everything, I didn't notice because of the Frebreze I'm spraying everywhere.

[Yiffgurl]

Finnaly, the Religion thread stopped, and the believers wins!! ( like always! )
Next thread: .... ?
LOL >:~) << Octo !

I am at a loss for words

[DarthConker]

Hai guize wuts goin on in dis thread

[WareRarez]

You know what didn't have an anwser around 200 years ago? The egg and the chicken, we used to play this game until evolution proved this one.

To ask "WUT MADE IT BING BUNG? HAHAHA U SILLY ATHEIST" is playing this game but one side is not gonna bother looking for the truth.

Also, this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIm2H0ksawg&playnext_from=TL&videos=laFr0ZUtsvI

no way im g2 watch that 8 min. time waster :P

+ We believers know , that the Chicken came first, because God Created the chicken.
( don't ask, Who created god, because then, we're back from the beginning :D )

[Yiffgurl]

no way im g2 watch that 8 min. time waster :P

+ We believers know , that the Chicken came first, because God Created the chicken.
( don't ask, Who created god, because then, we're back from the beginning :D )

http://img.moronail.net/img/9/1/891.jpg

[MetalHeroOfTime]

Since 3 minutes earlier :D
Hehehehe !

But people are still posting in the thread and no one wins when you talk about religion. Theists still use the same old faulty logic to explain everything and the Atheists end up with their faces in their palms. There is no answer and there never will be.

[Articerile]

no way im g2 watch that 8 min. time waster :P

+ We believers know , that the Chicken came first, because God Created the chicken.
( don't ask, Who created god, because then, we're back from the beginning :D )

HERP DERP, I REFUSE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SOMETHING FACTUAL AND I SHALL BELIEVE WRONG FACTS TOO.

Egg came first.

[WareRarez]

HERP DERP, I REFUSE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SOMETHING FACTUAL AND I SHALL BELIEVE WRONG FACTS TOO.

Egg came first.

OMG ! NOOOO I KNEW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT !
HELL NO !
CHICKEN FIRST !

Edit : Lol Alakazam, why am I a troll ! :P

[MetalHeroOfTime]

HERP DERP, I REFUSE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SOMETHING FACTUAL AND I SHALL BELIEVE WRONG FACTS TOO.

Egg came first.

OMG ! NOOOO I KNEW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT !
HELL NO !
CHICKEN FIRST !

You're both wrong. They appeared at the same time.

[Yiffgurl]

HERP DERP, I REFUSE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT SOMETHING FACTUAL AND I SHALL BELIEVE WRONG FACTS TOO.

Egg came first.

Dude just give up it's not even worth fighting this scum troll anymore

You're both wrong. They appeared at the same time.

FUUUUUUU

[Articerile]

OMG ! NOOOO I KNEW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT !
HELL NO !
CHICKEN FIRST !

Find me the bit in the Bible that says the Chicken came first, and actually physically STATES that.
Because even by the logic of "God made everything" it's really probable that the egg came first.

[WareRarez]

Find me the bit in the Bible that says the Chicken came first, and actually physically STATES that.
Because even by the logic of "God made everything" it's really probable that the egg came first.

Go to the 1st page of this Thread :
Noah's Ark Discovered

The sweet white chicken, was in there! o-O

[Articerile]

Go to the 1st page of this Thread :
Noah's Ark Discovered

The sweet white chicken, was in there! o-O

You do know that life existed before then?
Chickens and eggs existed long before Noah had to save them.
They didn't just start existing on the ark.

[Yiffgurl]

OMG ! NOOOO I KNEW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT !
HELL NO !
CHICKEN FIRST !

Edit : Lol Alakazam, why am I a troll ! :P

Well gee let's see you signed up 15 days ago and nobody knows who you are, you're playing the character of a religious zealot in a thread primarily filled with atheists, in essence the exact stereotype of such a person, and you refuse to make any sort of effort to debate but instead reply to every post with IM A BELIEVER I COULDNT LEAVE GOD IF I TRIED ! ! ! ! ! !

Either you're a theist too insecure in your beliefs to have a serious discussion and amplify them with the sole purpose of pissing people off, or you're an atheist who thinks it's funny to make other atheists mad because LOL TROLLING ON THE INTERNET!

Either way, you're garbage as a human being.

[Breegullbeak]

The first chicken was pregnant, therefore it's a tie.

[WareRarez]

Well gee let's see you signed up 15 days ago and nobody knows who you are, you're playing the character of a religious zealot in a thread primarily filled with atheists, in essence the exact stereotype of such a person, and you refuse to make any sort of effort to debate but instead reply to every post with IM A BELIEVER I COULDNT LEAVE GOD IF I TRIED ! ! ! ! ! !

Either you're a theist too insecure in your beliefs to have a serious discussion and amplify them with the sole purpose of pissing people off, or you're an atheist who thinks it's funny to make other atheists mad because LOL TROLLING ON THE INTERNET!

Either way, you're garbage as a human being.

well sank you, Alakazam !
First of all, this is one of my best days ever, I LOVE YOU GUYS ! :P
Im not a Hardcore believer, I do whatever i want to, where I want to.
I listen to Death metal, Heavy metal, Rock..
and I say : IM A BELIEVER I COULD LEAVE GOD, BUT I WONT BECAUSE I RAISED WITH MY RELIGION. ;)

Like i said in one of my reply's ( dunno which one ) : I respect all of you guys, even if youre an atheist !
Life is life, and Live how u want!

I love conversations, ( not trolling )
Im kinda new in the forums, sorry bout that.
VBscripter, Videomaker, Amateur Game maker..

Thts me .:D

[Avarice]

Sadly, my internet crashed for a while and I missed much of this thread.

Wait, it looks like I only missed WareRarez using the same faulty logic over and over again.

[WareRarez]

AMAGAD LOL !
NO! :P

[Yiffgurl]

Yep!!!

[Deebs]

I love conversations,

I got the impression that you liked running away from conversations, but that's just me.

[Yiffgurl]

Are you autistic WareRarez?

Calling warerarez autistic would be an insult to the autistic

[WareRarez]

Nope, im not autistic, im tired :P
36 hours without any sleep ( sick )

[Avarice]

Calling warerarez autistic would be an insult to the autistic

Even I agree with this.

[MetalHeroOfTime]

Nope, im not autistic, im tired :P
36 hours without any sleep ( sick )

That explains everything!

[Avarice]

Except for the part where he didn't offer any proof about the supposedly real God he so confidently believes in.

[WareRarez]

Look avarice,
Don't start again about religion..
I stopped,
I believe, you don't,
Live with it ! :P

[Breegullbeak]

Except for the part where he didn't offer any proof about the supposedly real God he so confidently believes in.

Lack of sleep can cause you to not think very straight.

[Yiffgurl]

Look avarice,
Don't start again about religion..
I stopped,
I believe, you don't,
Live with it ! :P

If you don't want to discuss it, leave the ****ing topic. Jesus ****ING christ.

[Deebs]

Look avarice,
Don't start again about religion..
I stopped,
I believe, you don't,
Live with it ! :P

Don't claim it as fact then, you utter fool.

[WareRarez]

Well, piss me off, i dont care ! :P
If you people want to, I can start aaaaaaaalll over !

[Yiffgurl]

Well, piss me off, i dont care ! :P
If you people want to, I can start aaaaaaaalll over !

What are you even

I think you are autistic

[WareRarez]

you want a picture of me ?

[mr.mumbo]

Odd that this seemingly huge news isn't being reported by any reputable news sites, how odd


AOL is skeptical, but they have posted the news. http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/evangelical-christian-groups-says-it-has-found-noahs-ark-in-turkey/19456378

I find it kind of odd that there are some of you who find it absolutely impossible that this could be true. Even if it seems unlikely, you should at least try to keep an open mind about this. The story claims that carbon dating was used, which is the same carbon dating that predicts the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. I understand people who are athiest, but to simply say that everything religious is wrong is no different than extreme Christians saying that there couldn't have been evolution. I'm personally unsure if the story is true or not.

[Articerile]

you want a picture of me ?

Bread, Glasses, Shoelace, Eggs.
Timestamp saying my name is WareRarez.

[Topmonhit]

no way im g2 watch that 8 min. time waster :P

+ We believers know , that the Chicken came first, because God Created the chicken.
( don't ask, Who created god, because then, we're back from the beginning :D )

How cynical.

And everyone knows the chicken created god. "Chicken" being used in a metaphorical sense to refer to a coward, and said coward being the people who were afraid of being insignificant and a lot of other things!

...Probably!

Calling warerarez autistic would be an insult to the autistic

Yeeeeeeeeees.

[Yiffgurl]

AOL is skeptical, but they have posted the news. http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/evangelical-christian-groups-says-it-has-found-noahs-ark-in-turkey/19456378

I find it kind of odd that there are some of you who find it absolutely impossible that this could be true. Even if it seems unlikely, you should at least try to keep an open mind about this. The story claims that carbon dating was used, which is the same carbon dating that predicts the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. I understand people who are athiest, but to simply say that everything religious is wrong is no different than extreme Christians saying that there couldn't have been evolution. I'm personally unsure if the story is true or not.

I already debunked why this isn't true on the FIRST PAGE. My god.

[WareRarez]

naaah im stoppin for now :P
u all g2 see my real person if I get some sleep i guess ( really sick, almost died .. :S )
call me whatever you want :P

[Avarice]

Even if it was the "Noah's Ark" of legend, that doesn't somehow prove the existence of God or the rest of the Bible.

@WareRarez

How old are you? Just curious.

[mr.mumbo]

You don't think it's odd it was found by evangelical christians? Or is that just jolly good luck

I think its very odd this was found by evangelical Christians. I'm as skeptical about this as everyone, but I don't think we should simply claim that this is false until we find out if the carbon dating was correct.

[Yiffgurl]

I think its very odd this was found by evangelical Christians. I'm as skeptical about this as everyone, but I don't think we should simply claim that this is false until we find out if the carbon dating was correct.

What about the fact that multiple arks have been found in the past, or that it's way too high in the mountains for there to be enough water in the world to lift it that high?

[WareRarez]

Even if it was the "Noah's Ark" of legend, that doesn't somehow prove the existence of God or the rest of the Bible.

@WareRarez

How old are you? Just curious.

16, why ?

[Yiffgurl]

naaah im stoppin for now :P
u all g2 see my real person if I get some sleep i guess ( really sick, almost died .. :S )
call me whatever you want :P

WareRarez pls go

[Avarice]

16, why ?

Just curious.

[mr.mumbo]

What about the fact that multiple arks have been found in the past, or that it's way too high in the mountains for there to be enough water in the world to lift it that high?

I'm not sure if the original story is real. The fact of the matter is we have no way of knowing whether the event happened or not.

I already debunked why this isn't true on the FIRST PAGE. My god.

The only information we have been given so far is that this group says the carbon dating is 5000 years. Until we get better information, this is what I'm going off of. I understand not believing it since the source seems kind of fishy.

[WareRarez]

Ok .

Btw, anyone knows how to VB script? or Game designing ?
( i know it's not the right thread)

[Arykawesome92]

Oh that's so cool guys. I saw this title expecting to see a thread contrived of intelligent responses and some comedic backdrop. Instead I enter into another useless religious debate filled with "No you guys are retarded and I hate you because I'm immature and you believe in something like God. I'm gonna be cool and side with the others... I'm cool right?", "LOL I KNOW EVERYTHING CUZ I BELIEVE IN GOD LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL", "No! No! no! You logic is flawed I have a book to back it up!", "No No! YOUR logic is flawed because all you have book and nothing else.", "PROOF PROOF I WANT PROOOOOOFFFF FFFFUUUUUU *butt hurt*".

Look the way I see things is this: Yes, I'm a Christian. Now before you guys are your retard cannons of blind hate and fury over just one simple sentence, keep reading. I also heavily believe in this one statement: "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." Of course I got this quote from Assassin's Creed (Live by the creed!), but it holds significance. By saying "Nothing is true" I allow myself to be able to keep an open mind to all possibilities. I consider all sides of an argument until presented with undeniable truth. Although I may closely follow Christianity and believe most of the stuff in that religion, I allow myself to see the sense in certain points of other religions. Extremists that refuse to accept any other type of logic give people like me a bad image. For instance, you Atheists say that my religion is flawed because all I have to go by is a few historical landmarks and a book. This is very true, I don't have much proof to back myself up, but is it wrong to believe in something? I have hope that all this is true, I have faith that it is. But I don't let that faith cloud my judgments. A wise man (whom I honestly cannot recall the name of) once said "I do not follow any set religion for I believe that all religions hold at least some [wisdom]." By listening with an open mind I have been able to humbly take into consideration certain things other religions believe. So although I closely follow Christianity, I leave myself with an open mind to be able to listen and respect others beliefs because honestly, just because we believe something out of a book, a scroll, a tablet, words out of crazy hobo's mouth, does not mean we know everything. It does not mean that our beliefs are the one and only true beliefs. I have no idea what exactly happens when I die, and neither do any of you. Whether I go to a heavenly paradise up to meet some omnipotent being, get remade into a squirrel, have a thousand virgins surround me with pleasures, or I simply fade to black is beyond me. But at least I have a little bit of something to believe. Maybe I do go to meet God, maybe I don't. Either way, with my open mind, I don't let one way of thinking rule my life.

Also, either the chicken came before the egg or they both came at the same time because the baby chick inside the egg would die without something to incubate it, i.e. the chicken.

[Yiffgurl]

If you don't have complete faith you're going to hell though

[Deebs]

Stop treating it as if there's some sort of "christian hate". We don't like people who talk like they know what they're talking about when they clearly don't, not Christianity itself.

That said, I don't like Christianity - but I won't let the fact someone is Christian in the way of anything.

[WareRarez]

If you don't have complete faith you're going to hell though

Rofl :P

I guess everyone is g2 hell then, because all believers don't have complete faith. ( if i'm right )
I have alot of doubts about my religion, but because I raised with it, I keep it.

[mr.mumbo]

Oh that's so cool guys. I saw this title expecting to see a thread contrived of intelligent responses and some comedic backdrop. Instead I enter into another useless religious debate filled with "No you guys are retarded and I hate you because I'm immature and you believe in something like God. I'm gonna be cool and side with the others... I'm cool right?", "LOL I KNOW EVERYTHING CUZ I BELIEVE IN GOD LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL", "No! No! no! You logic is flawed I have a book to back it up!", "No No! YOUR logic is flawed because all you have book and nothing else.", "PROOF PROOF I WANT PROOOOOOFFFF FFFFUUUUUU *butt hurt*".

Look the way I see things is this: Yes, I'm a Christian. Now before you guys are your retard cannons of blind hate and fury over just one simple sentence, keep reading. I also heavily believe in this one statement: "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." Of course I got this quote from Assassin's Creed (Live by the creed!), but it holds significance. By saying "Nothing is true" I allow myself to be able to keep an open mind to all possibilities. I consider all sides of an argument until presented with undeniable truth. Although I may closely follow Christianity and believe most of the stuff in that religion, I allow myself to see the sense in certain points of other religions. Extremists that refuse to accept any other type of logic give people like me a bad image. For instance, you Atheists say that my religion is flawed because all I have to go by is a few historical landmarks and a book. This is very true, I don't have much proof to back myself up, but is it wrong to believe in something? I have hope that all this is true, I have faith that it is. But I don't let that faith cloud my judgments. A wise man (whom I honestly cannot recall the name of) once said "I do not follow any set religion for I believe that all religions hold at least some [wisdom]." By listening with an open mind I have been able to humbly take into consideration certain things other religions believe. So although I closely follow Christianity, I leave myself with an open mind to be able to listen and respect others beliefs because honestly, just because we believe something out of a book, a scroll, a tablet, words out of crazy hobo's mouth, does not mean we know everything. It does not mean that our beliefs are the one and only true beliefs. I have no idea what exactly happens when I die, and neither do any of you. Whether I go to a heavenly paradise up to meet some omnipotent being, get remade into a squirrel, have a thousand virgins surround me with pleasures, or I simply fade to black is beyond me. But at least I have a little bit of something to believe. Maybe I do go to meet God, maybe I don't. Either way, with my open mind, I don't let one way of thinking rule my life.

Also, either the chicken came before the egg or they both came at the same time because the baby chick inside the egg would die without something to incubate it, i.e. the chicken.

Seriously great post. I agree with quite a bit of what you said. It's true that none of us really know whether our beliefs are correct, and I agree there is no reason to bash what someone else believes.

[Yiffgurl]

Oh that's so cool guys. I saw this title expecting to see a thread contrived of intelligent responses and some comedic backdrop. Instead I enter into another useless religious debate filled with "No you guys are retarded and I hate you because I'm immature and you believe in something like God. I'm gonna be cool and side with the others... I'm cool right?", "LOL I KNOW EVERYTHING CUZ I BELIEVE IN GOD LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL", "No! No! no! You logic is flawed I have a book to back it up!", "No No! YOUR logic is flawed because all you have book and nothing else.", "PROOF PROOF I WANT PROOOOOOFFFF FFFFUUUUUU *butt hurt*".

For the record I tried to do this for the first page of this thread until sam.26 refused to respond to my post because I was an atheist

Seriously great post. I agree with quite a bit of what you said. It's true that none of us really know whether our beliefs are correct, and I agree there is no reason to bash what someone else believes.

If you don't know, then you don't have faith, if you don't have faith, then you are going to hell. You can't be a christian and open minded or else you become a poor man's atheist.

[Arykawesome92]

If you don't know, then you don't have faith, if you don't have faith, then you are going to hell. You can't be a christian and open minded or else you become a poor man's atheist.

Haha, I realize this next paragraph may be contradictory, but I guess I was unclear in my other, rather lengthy, post.

If someone claims they know something for sure, it's not faith, to them it's fact. And to me, to have faith means hoping that a certain something is real. I have a humble mind and do not automatically assume it is all true. I have very strong hopes that it is real, and believe, and trust in God and his son Jesus, and that to me is what is called having faith. I keep an open mind because of the fact that I do not know everything, and neither does my grandfather who sits up in the pulpit every Sunday morning/evening and every Wednesday evening preaching the word of God. Sure my way of thinking may be different to that of what you consider a "real Christian" (which to me, by the way you guys talk, is the definition of an extremist whom I dislike very strongly for giving people like me a bad name). So to you I'm not a real Christian. So be it, I accept your logic, but to me I am. I trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, but does that mean I cannot have an open mind about other people's views? But because I have faith and believe in The Lord, I have been saved and I'm not going to Hell, whether I go to heaven or some other place, that is one thing I most certainly do believe. I respect all of your opinions and beliefs, therefore, I ask that you do the same for mine with an open mind.

Also, I would just like to add a little personal note here: Is it wrong to believe and live by the words in the Bible? Some of the stuff in there teach good ways of becoming a good person such has humility, honesty, forgiveness, trust, kindness, and generosity to just name a few. So believing in, and living by, some things in the Bible is not completely ludicrous.

Stop treating it as if there's some sort of "christian hate". We don't like people who talk like they know what they're talking about when they clearly don't, not Christianity itself.

That said, I don't like Christianity - but I won't let the fact someone is Christian in the way of anything.

That wasn;t directed at you, there was a previous user in this thread who I honestly can't remember, that blatantly said that they disliked a fellow member for the sole fact that he was a Christian.

[mr.mumbo]

If you don't know, then you don't have faith, if you don't have faith, then you are going to hell. You can't be a christian and open minded or else you become a poor man's atheist.

Having faith does not mean that you believe everything in your religion is fact. To have faith simply means you choose to believe in a certain god. I consider myself a Methodist, but I'm not 100% positive my views are correct. Christians who believe that everything going against the bible is wrong are those that make all Christians sound extreme. Just because some psalm writers talked about the ends of the Earth does not change the fact that the Earth is round. Writers in the Bible were just writing based off the knowledge they had at the time. There is no reason that there cannot be God and science, i.e. God set off the big bang or set up evolution.

[Avarice]

Your own mindset is contradictory Aryka. You claim that you "hope that it is all real," but then factually state that you "Trust Jesus" and "have been saved and are not going to Hell".

I, personally, don't trust many people who I only hope are real, btw.

Also, sorry some of us demand proof when people make claims of invisible sky men and the such. I have a nasty habit of not buying into baseless bullshit.

[Siege]

How do you know anything that you don't currently perceive is real?

[Pattt]

Bread, Glasses, Shoelace, Eggs.
Timestamp saying my name is WareRarez.
Oh SDJS ... Now THERE was a troll. You have a long way to go if you want to live up to that WareRarez.

[Avarice]

How do you know anything that you don't currently perceive is real?

There's more than one way to perceive something than looking at it. Like, black holes are recognized because of what they do (In this post Avarice can't remember the difference between affect and effect) to surrounding stars.

I can do something similar with the debate at hand. I can ask people for evidence of God, and then go and research it myself.

You know, assuming a theist could ever provide any.

[Siege]

There's more than one way to perceive something than looking at it. Like, black holes are recognized because of what they do (In this post Avarice can't remember the difference between affect and effect) to surrounding stars.

I can do something similar with the debate at hand. I can ask people for evidence of God, and then go and research it myself.

You know, assuming a theist could ever provide any.

I don't see how that's relevant. Are you perceiving a black hole right now?

My point is, the only way to know something is to sense it. So as long as you can't see, hear, feel, smell, or taste it, to you it's as if it's not there.

How can you be sure you didn't just pop into existence this very moment, and all the memories you have aren't lies?

Cycling this back to intelligent design, we only know what he wants us to know more then likely. Being a god, he or she can twist our perceptions, do anything. Maybe there's a god, and he just doesn't want us to know about him.

[Yiffgurl]

How can you be sure you didn't just pop into existence this very moment, and all the memories you have aren't lies?

Oh god don't even bring that up, that idea has worried me before so many times

[Avarice]

Proving one does not have to directly see something to perceive it isn't relevant? Lol okay cj.

As to your second point... I guess this means my schizophrenic delusions are real.

Point 3: There's no evidence to even remotely suggest that.

Punto Cuatro: More than likely? For something to be "likely," there must be statistical evidence in the first place. Even so, if we go by Christianity that still doesn't make sense, you know with the whole flooding the world and smiting people and sending himself down as his son thing.

EDIT: I just came up with a better example for point one. We're conversing right now, and yet you perceive me without directly observing me.

I hope you don't suggest I'm not real.

[Siege]

Proving one does not have to directly see something to perceive it isn't relevant? Lol okay cj.

What I was getting at was that I was not defining perception.

As to your second point... I guess this means my schizophrenic delusions aren't real.

Technically wouldn't you believe you are seeing them?

As for points 3 & 4, I was just basically thinking out loud.

As for the point of this, people will believe what they wanna believe. But you can't say there is no God because if he or she didn't want you to find out about him or her, he or she wouldn't let you.

EDIT: I have reason to believe you were real at the time the post was made. But can I be sure you are? No.

EDIT: I suspect this will be locked soon for going extremely off-topic.

[Avarice]

Devil's proof argument.

In a situation where something existence cannot be confirmed or denied, it is foolish to automatically assume it exists.

Also, you hurt my feelings. Apparently I don't exist... even if I could give you information only I could know right now but you wouldn't but could still independently verify.

[Siege]

Devil's proof argument.

In a situation where something existence cannot be confirmed or denied, it is foolish to automatically assume it exists.

Also, you hurt my feelings. Apparently I don't exist... even if I could give you information only I could know right now but you wouldn't but could still independently verify.

Exactly. It is fallacy to assume you exist. Ergo, I do not.

[Avarice]

Except it isn't, as I can provide evidence, you know, besides the conversation we are having right now.

I could give all kinds of personal information about my friends that they told only me (Like their crush or something), and you could come to Indianapolis, observe and perceive them, which would prove that the information they gave me is true, which would prove I exist.

[Dylan Yoshi]

In a situation where something existence cannot be confirmed or denied, it is foolish to automatically assume it exists.

That doesn't change that there's an invisible winged squid behind you that you can't see, smell, feel, hear, or taste and that doesn't show up through heat vision.

[Siege]

Except it isn't, as I can provide evidence, you know, besides the conversation we are having right now.

I could give all kinds of personal information about my friends that they told only me (Like their crush or something), and you could come to Indianapolis, observe and perceive them, which would prove that the information they gave me is true, which would prove I exist.

But how would I know they and you existed before I perceived them?

[Avarice]

Why wouldn't they?

I hope you don't say because of a God you never perceived.

Also, I'm surprised you just didn't say one of my friends is using this account. You missed an easy loophole.

[Siege]

Why wouldn't they?

I hope you don't say because of a God you never perceived.

Devil's proof.

Also, I'm surprised you just didn't say one of my friends is using this account. You missed an easy loophole.

I would but I'm not sure they exist at the moment either.

[Yiffgurl]

Wow this thread sucks now

[Siege]

Wow this thread sucks now

That it surely does.

[Avarice]

Devil's proof.


Except that you continue and continue to acknowledge my existence by having this very conversation with me. Unless you just want to admit you're crazy or something.

Either way, I win.

I would but I'm not sure they exist at the moment either.

Show me a single proven phenomenon where people spontaneously appear or disappear out of thin air, please.

[Siege]

Except that you continue and continue to acknowledge my existence by having this very conversation with me. Unless you just want to admit you're crazy or something.

Either way, I win.

I acknowledge that I am recieving responses to my messages from somewhere, yes.

Show me a single proven phenomenon where people spontaneously appear or disappear out of thin air, please.

I cannot. And this is not Devil's Proof because nowhere have I stated "THIS IS 100% TRUE NOTHING EXISTS." Just a theory.

If they were to appear they would have done it before I got there.

[Avarice]

So you acknowledge that I, the one going by the name Avarice, exist to send you these messages. Cool.

Also your theory is totally irrational and impossible. Just saying.

[Yiffgurl]

WHO CARES SERIOUSLY

[Avarice]

Yeah, this is getting boring. I'm going to sleep. Too tired to keep on trolling cj.

Night.

[Siege]

So you acknowledge that I, the one going by the name Avarice, exist to send you these messages. Cool.

Also your theory is totally irrational and impossible. Just saying.

I will submit that you indeed exist in some form.

Irrational? Yes. Impossible? Well, how do you know? Just because you've been taught it's impossible doesn't mean it is.

WHO CARES SERIOUSLY

Quite frankly, no one. All my friends are in Cincinatti and I'm bored.

[Twi]

How to have a large thread on RWP:

Pick a topic regarding:
Politics
Religion
Other Controversial issue (Gay Marriage etc.)

or

Pick any topic and troll incessantly.

[Yiffgurl]

It's too bad cause the thread should have ended 14 posts in

[Tediz Slayer]

God is Santa Cluase for adults.

[Yiffgurl]

God is Santa Cluase for adults.

Santa is an anagram for Satan

[Pattt]

Santa is an anagram for Satan
Mind. Blown.

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

Okay, so I've been reading this thread and it's all been run-of-the-mill RWP religulous fare, hilarious points from both sides, Grey in the lead. Keep in mind I'm only about six or whatever pages in but then I read this




For the record I practice atheism but am really an agnostic.

LOL, WHAT?!



I will provide more updates as I delve further into this crime scene.

[Siege]

Okay, so I've been reading this thread and it's all been run-of-the-mill RWP religulous fare, hilarious points from both sides, Grey in the lead. Keep in mind I'm only about six or whatever pages in but then I read this





LOL, WHAT?!



I will provide more updates as I delve further into this crime scene.

I'd just skip page 9 if I were you.

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

Update: This thread makes me want to kill everything and btw I hate everything.


This is the only thing that has intrigued me, and I here I provide a counterpoint. It's really simple actually. I'm just going by what I think... I don't have any sort of citation. Even if I did, the "perception argument" would defeat them.

But how would I know they and you existed before I perceived them?

Why would things only exist at the exact moment? To have things arranged so specifically that they're happening only when perceived? Okay, so I'm walking down the street. That street doesn't exist when I'm not experiencing it with any of my senses... but we know it would've had to be built beforehand. Unless you're suggesting I'm not real and/or that the street and how it was built is a product of your imagination and you're just going through this dreamscape and you're the only thing in an existence that is entirely your own. Cj, that thinking is dangerous and freaking insane. You know that. It's fun for a child's makebelieve what-if scenario, but at the end of the day it's just making things needlessly difficult.


also your friends aren't in Cincinnati they don't exist... or... I'm partying with them in another dimension. I'm only posting this because sometimes I get bored and I like to jump to different realities and **** with people. Calling human perception into question is fun. Wait you don't even need me for your perceptions to be challenged that's what drugs are for



oh no




now i dont have a purpose


im gonna disappear

[BobbyTheCat]

Goodbye, Stephen.

[Dylan Yoshi]

Hey, Stephen, could you get me a sandwich while you're out? Thanks.

[KrazyKaz12]

WOAH! HOW LONG WAS I SLEEPING!? LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THERE WERE ONLY ABOUT 7 PAGES, AND NOW THERES 25!!!!

EDIT: I THINK I MIGHT HAVE PROOF! My friend Emily was in surgery, and supposedly, she stopped breathing, and she was all of a sudden in this peacful place, she saw her Brother, (her brother died) and she described it as a more calming, peacful feeling that she never felt b4, and her bro said something like, "Its not time for you to come here yet, you have to go back" Shes like "I don't wanna go". She is still here though.

I know most of the people here thinks that is bull, but that is what she told me. I thought it was interesting.

[KryptoniteJinjo]

I was too lazy to read this whole thread, but I'm going to answer the original statement. There have been "discoveries" of Noah's Ark since at least 1989... they say they've found it all the time and always on the same mountain but never follow up on it. It's false.

Also, scientists found that to create such an amount of water with rainfall in 40 days, the heat displacement would cause the water to literally boil.

KrazyKaz12, that's not bull. That's a lack of oxygen to the brain causing hallucinations.

[KrazyKaz12]

Calling warerarez autistic would be an insult to the autistic
Yeah, it is a insult to me. Thanks!
I have censory issues. That makes me feel a lot better!

[Greendrag]

Um, yeah. That went nowhere. Sorry guys, if religious people could reason, there would be no religious people.

[KrazyKaz12]

Now I am afraid that people are going to think I'm retarded bcuz I'm autistic D:

[Yiffgurl]

Now I am afraid that people are going to think I'm retarded bcuz I'm autistic D:

It's ok because you are a beautiful and unique snowflake ^-^

[King Gobi]

^ Pedobear Rofl

But you know I'm sure this topic was about termites -.-

[jim]

I wonder how many religious debates this site has endured over the years?

[KrazyKaz12]

I wonder how many religious debates this site has endured over the years?
OVER 9000!!!!

[WareRarez]

OVER 9000!!!!
More then that ! :P

[DekuScrubby]

Having faith does not mean that you believe everything in your religion is fact. To have faith simply means you choose to believe in a certain god. I consider myself a Methodist, but I'm not 100% positive my views are correct. Christians who believe that everything going against the bible is wrong are those that make all Christians sound extreme. Just because some psalm writers talked about the ends of the Earth does not change the fact that the Earth is round. Writers in the Bible were just writing based off the knowledge they had at the time. There is no reason that there cannot be God and science, i.e. God set off the big bang or set up evolution.

Except the Bible directly contradicts the Big Bang and evolution. I hear this quite a lot; "I'm a Christian, but believe in the Big Bang and evolution etc". The simple fact is that you can't be. If you believe in evolution and the Big Bang then you do not believe the events of Genesis, and if you don't believe that, why believe the rest of the Bible?

[KrazyKaz12]

Hasn't anybody's opinion changed about me when they learned Im autistic? Certain textures are uncomfortable for me.

[Yiffgurl]

Hasn't anybody's opinion changed about me when they learned Im autistic? Certain textures are uncomfortable for me.

Nah like half of rwp is autistic so it's all good

[Mr 3vil]

Just for the record if anybody cares, it's the egg that came first. Not chickens. You're better off asking if organisms appeared first or the egg.

As for the Big Bang, we don't actually know what happened before it. It's never been stated that there was nothing before the Big Bang. There was something, something that probably cannot be observed. M-theory states that it's a membrane crashing upon ours, the energy creating a massive explosion.

It's really a beautiful and complicated theory.

As for the thing about the Big Bang and God both being theories. There is actual evidence to support the theory of the Big Bang.

There isn't enough for the theory of a God because you cannot die and come back to life. There isn't any physical evidence either. Your only reasoning is that because we are intellectual beings, we must have been created by an intellectual being. Which is funny because shouldn't every animal have the ability to rationalize?

The thing about our reasoning skills is that it's more evolved than something we have genetically. I have evidence on that by the way.

Here is a nice documentary on M-theory which should cover most of the basics about the Big Bang and other stuff. It's interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7FV9aaiwKQ

Now here is a good question, if we are intellectual beings and assume we've been created by an intellectual being, how did we come about if this "God" had no tools to mess with? Either existence has always existed, which I'm starting to be more inclined towards... or something really did come from nothing.

Here's the deal about nothing. You cannot get something from nothing. It's impossible. 0 + 0 =/= 1 If you take nothing and add nothing, you don't get something. So I'm more inclined to believe, existence has always existed.

If religion wants to see it as we are intellectual, therefore a God with intellectual abilities designed us. Then I can re-word this to.... "We are something, therefore a something designed us with something." So, obviously, we didn't come from nothing. It just seems as if the Bible claims that a God popped everything into place from nothing.

The Big Bang says we came from something and we don't know what that something is before it.

[Grey Jinjo]

Just throwing this out there...

I always hear people upset that "Christians are being lumped together." Christians are being lumped together, because they all share a common thread. Each one of you believes, without reason, that a very specific something outside of the realm of your perception exists. The concept is both illogical and irrational.

People argue that they believe in the Big Bang, don't believe the stories in the Bible are literal, etc. To be honest, it is all complete irrelevant. All you are doing is placing yourself on a different position of the illogical scale. You're essentially saying "I'm not as bad as the other Christians." Everyone, and I mean legitimately everyone, who doesn't believe is automatically more intelligent than you are based on NOTHING more than not believing. It has nothing to do with your opinion on dinosaurs, if the Earth is round or not etc.

Now before anyone even points it out, there is a difference between being smart and being intelligent. Smart is a measure of your mental collective where as intelligence refers to your ability to place things into said mental collective, solve problems, rationalize, etc. You can be a very smart nuclear scientist and still not be intelligent. Conversely, Mensa has a sleuth of truck drivers in it. With enough hard work, anyone can learn anything.

[Hey, I'm Grump]

Religious debates are useless because both sides are dedicated to their beliefs and both sides can't be right.

The trouble is, in the passion of defending what you believe in, common sense takes a backseat.

[Siege]

Cj, that thinking is dangerous and freaking insane. You know that. It's fun for a child's makebelieve what-if scenario, but at the end of the day it's just making things needlessly difficult.

Well of course I don't actually believe it. But it's fun to think about how hard it really is to disprove. Like sure you can say "Well that's insane" but in the end it's a possibility. A very unlikely possibility, but a possibility.

[DevilBanjo]

Except the Bible directly contradicts the Big Bang and evolution. I hear this quite a lot; "I'm a Christian, but believe in the Big Bang and evolution etc". The simple fact is that you can't be. If you believe in evolution and the Big Bang then you do not believe the events of Genesis, and if you don't believe that, why believe the rest of the Bible?

No, science and religion can go together. What makes you think the bible contradicts the big bang and evolution?

[Weldar-Kazooie]

( i respect all people, even if they believe in sh*t)


I suppose that's good, if you didn't have that tolerance you wouldn't respect yourself. At all.


Religion isn't a theory, its the truth ;)

<Insert Buhhda, Muhammad, Spaghetti Monster, and Edward Cullen here>

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

Well of course I don't actually believe it. But it's fun to think about how hard it really is to disprove. Like sure you can say "Well that's insane" but in the end it's a possibility. A very unlikely possibility, but a possibility.

It just seemed like you did and after reading the whole thread without a break it was really hard to not take you seriously. Also I was tired.

[Weldar-Kazooie]

SERIOUS QUESTION:

Am I the only one who would PREFER the imaginary Hell over the imaginary Heaven?

Hell would have all the cool people ^^ I'd prefer the wild, crazy people.

I mean, come on: Eternity with sinners, alcoholics, sluts, athiests, crazies. OR Eternity with people like WareRarez.

It's an easy decision for me. :)

[Siege]

It just seemed like you did and after reading the whole thread without a break it was really hard to not take you seriously. Also I was tired.

I was as well. And bored, so it was nice to toy with as if it was real.

But the moral is: Just because something is impossible to prove as correct doesn't mean it's not real. Such as, perhaps, a God

Screw it there was no moral.

[Yiffgurl]

Just throwing this out there...

I always hear people upset that "Christians are being lumped together." Christians are being lumped together, because they all share a common thread. Each one of you believes, without reason, that a very specific something outside of the realm of your perception exists. The concept is both illogical and irrational.

People argue that they believe in the Big Bang, don't believe the stories in the Bible are literal, etc. To be honest, it is all complete irrelevant. All you are doing is placing yourself on a different position of the illogical scale. You're essentially saying "I'm not as bad as the other Christians." Everyone, and I mean legitimately everyone, who doesn't believe is automatically more intelligent than you are based on NOTHING more than not believing. It has nothing to do with your opinion on dinosaurs, if the Earth is round or not etc.

Now before anyone even points it out, there is a difference between being smart and being intelligent. Smart is a measure of your mental collective where as intelligence refers to your ability to place things into said mental collective, solve problems, rationalize, etc. You can be a very smart nuclear scientist and still not be intelligent. Conversely, Mensa has a sleuth of truck drivers in it. With enough hard work, anyone can learn anything.

You should have made this post pages ago

[Hey, I'm Grump]

SERIOUS QUESTION:

Am I the only one who would PREFER the imaginary Hell over the imaginary Heaven?

Hell would have all the cool people ^^ I'd prefer the wild, crazy people.

I mean, come on: Eternity with sinners, alcoholics, sluts, athiests, crazies. OR Eternity with people like WareRarez.

It's an easy decision for me. :)

Well if you enjoy BDSM you're in for an eternity of extesy aren't you.

[KryptoniteJinjo]

In light of what Grey posted I'll come back to what I said several pages ago:

"I'm not saying that believing in God makes you dumber. My hypothesis is that people with a low intelligence are more easily drawn towards religions"

http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1834301

1999 study: "merely 10% of those who are considered 'eminent' scientists believe in a personal god or in an afterlife"

http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/Jesus/Intelligence%20&%20religion.htm

"Intelligence correlates with disbelief in god across 137 nations"

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MwIolxYBtuQJ:www.amnation.com/vfr/IQ%2520and%2520religious%2520belief%2520paper%2520 by%2520Lynn,%2520Harvey,%2520Nyborg.doc+intelligen ce+religious+beliefs&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

There's a wealth of statistical evidence to back this all up :)

This actually doesn't correlate that well (aside from your second link, of course). If you read the actual study, it shows that it is the outliers of a community that are the most intelligent... the ones that don't go with the flow. So an Atheist in the United States is more intelligent, but a Catholic person in Japan is more intelligent.

As for reasons why people would believe in a God, major aspects are the beginning of the universe (because the Big Bang Theory is very well founded, but the other theories relating to it are tentative still, and people want to know what happened before the Big Bang, even though technically the answer is nothing if it started time). It's pretty much been stated by scientists that if they find that there is only one universe, there is almost certainly a God, and if there isn't, it doesn't discredit a God but makes there being no God a little over 50%. Also, the Shroud of Turin is something interesting to look at... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin
I've had to debate this against religious people, and I found myself having a hard time proving it wasn't real, especially based on the more recent evidence. Of course, this is for Christian arguments.
Christians, feel free to add to these arguments if you wish. I am tired and I am not Christian.

EDIT: Oh, and in response to Alakazam's statement that "If you're a Christian and you're open minded, you don't have faith. If you don't have faith, you're going to hell." Actually, most mainstream Christian religions (I'm going based on Roman Catholicism) say that you don't need to be Christian to go to heaven. As long as you perform genuinely good deeds, you don't need to be burdened by an affiliation to get out of hell.

Of course, this brings about the question "Then why is anyone a Christian in the first place?" Most Christians can't answer that... but I guess they need to have a book to hold on to just in case they screw up sometimes on being good.

[DekuScrubby]

No, science and religion can go together. What makes you think the bible contradicts the big bang and evolution?

They directly contradict each other. Go read Genesis. It explains how god snaps his metaphysical fingers and makes things appear, such as fully evolved life forms, the sky, light and darkness etc in seven days.

[KryptoniteJinjo]

In response to that, it's said it's symbolic. In fact, some religions say all of the Old Testament is symbolic. That's why Jesus came and started things over and taught all new things... because the Old Testament was outdated and so he became the New Testament.

So basically, in the view of the Christians, the Jews are ****ed.

[DekuScrubby]

In response to that, it's said it's symbolic. In fact, some religions say all of the Old Testament is symbolic. That's why Jesus came and started things over and taught all new things... because the Old Testament was outdated and so he became the New Testament.

Where? Where is it said it is symbolic? And if it is, why isn't the rest of the Bible symbolic, and who gets to decide which parts are and which aren't?

[DevilBanjo]

They directly contradict each other. Go read Genesis. It explains how god snaps his metaphysical fingers and makes things appear, such as fully evolved life forms, the sky, light and darkness etc in seven days.

The belief than religion and science go together is that a day for God does not equal 24 hours. A day for God could equal billions of years. Also what is the first thing God said?

"Let there be light" Light=Big bang

You don't have to believe it, but they can go together. But I'm going to read Genesis again.

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

Thanks for that documentary Mr. 3vil. It's interesting. I'm on part 10 now.

[DevilBanjo]

Where? Where is it said it is symbolic? And if it is, why isn't the rest of the Bible symbolic, and who gets to decide which parts are and which aren't?

The Bible is written by multiple people, it isn't perfect.

[Siege]

The Bible is written by multiple people, it isn't perfect.

But it's supposed to be the inspired word of God. You're saying that some things in the bible are possibly wrong?

[DevilBanjo]

But it's supposed to be the inspired word of God. You're saying that some things in the bible are possibly wrong?

They all have their different interpretations on stories from what they've seen, so Mark's and Luke's Gospels could contradict eachother. Some of it written is based on either like you said the word of God or what they saw when they followed as disciples of Jesus.

But yes, I suppose some things in the Bible could be wrong. God never directly wrote it, so there could be many misinterperations and changes.

[KryptoniteJinjo]

Where? Where is it said it is symbolic? And if it is, why isn't the rest of the Bible symbolic, and who gets to decide which parts are and which aren't?

(I looked this up because I wasn't entirely sure) It's said in Romans 2:29 and Romans 7:6 and 2 Corinthians 3:6. Even the Old Testament says it's symbolic. Psalm 78 outright says that Exodus is a parable.

And Jesus refers to most of the events in his life having prior symbolism in the Old Testament... such as breaking the bread and other events.

The Bible outright says that the Old Testament is symbolic, and that serves to set up the story for the New Testament.

[Siege]

(I looked this up because I wasn't entirely sure) It's said in Romans 2:29 and Romans 7:6 and 2 Corinthians 3:6.

All these say is that Jesus is nullifying the old law, not that it was all purely symbolic. Unless I'm mistaken.

[DekuScrubby]

The belief than religion and science go together is that a day for God does not equal 24 hours. A day for God could equal billions of years. Also what is the first thing God said?

"Let there be light" Light=Big bang

You don't have to believe it, but they can go together. But I'm going to read Genesis again.

Does it say "seven days, but in God's perspective"? No. It doesn't clarify this so I'm going to take it was what it says; Genesis depicts god making the planet and all life on it in a week.

And "light" does not refer to the Big Bang. If you recall, moments later he creates "darkness" to balance out the light, thus creating the day/night cycle.

The Bible is written by multiple people, it isn't perfect.
And yet so many people base their lives around it. Plus, how could these people possibly know how long a day is for god or how the Big Bang happened?

(I looked this up because I wasn't entirely sure) It's said in Romans 2:29 and Romans 7:6 and 2 Corinthians 3:6. Even the Old Testament says it's symbolic. Psalm 78 outright says that Exodus is a parable.

And Jesus refers to most of the events in his life having prior symbolism in the Old Testament... such as breaking the bread and other events.

The Bible outright says that the Old Testament is symbolic, and that serves to set up the story for the New Testament.
No, I don't think it does. The NT nullifies a lot of the rules in the OT (such as stoning women to death who weren't virgins on their wedding night) but doesn't actually say that none of the stuff in the OT happened.

Also, what does Exodus have to do with this? We're talking about Genesis. And Romans 2:29 is about who is and isn't a Jew. 7:6 pretty much says what I said, it's the laws of the OT that are nullified and not the documented events. 2 Corinthians 3:6 doesn't say anything about the events not happening either.

[Adam]

If there is any way to post this any harder, I'd love to know how.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GKKAuP-R4

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

And "light" does not refer to the Big Bang. If you recall, moments later he creates "darkness" to balance out the light, thus creating the day/night cycle.

I'm positive that darkness was around until God created light. I don't know why he said "Let there be light" let alone in English ... but that wasn't the first thing he did. He created Heaven and the Earth before light, the Earth which was void without form (and as Ricky Gervais is quite amazed at - He created everything in the dark!) and then he shaped it, and made light. Nothing in Genesis refers to the Big Bang. Nothing in Genesis refers to evolution either. God created everything at once.

[DevilBanjo]

Does it say "seven days, but in God's perspective"? No. It doesn't clarify this so I'm going to take it was what it says; Genesis depicts god making the planet and all life on it in a week.

Does it say a day in our perspective? No it doesn't.

And "light" does not refer to the Big Bang. If you recall, moments later he creates "darkness" to balance out the light, thus creating the day/night cycle.

Hm, I must've misunderstood what my teacher told me.

And yet so many people base their lives around it. Plus, how could these people possibly know how long a day is for god or how the Big Bang happened?

Well, they were Disciples of Jesus, not just people.

Check out the bold, I'm not really an expert. Although I've basically been learning Religion my whole life, we have only gotten down to explanations recently. Maybe during high school i will understand better.

I'm positive that darkness was around until God created light. I don't know why he said "Let there be light" let alone in English ... but that wasn't the first thing he did. He created Heaven and the Earth before light, the Earth which was void without form (and as Ricky Gervais is quite amazed at - He created everything in the dark!) and then he shaped it, and made light. Nothing in Genesis refers to the Big Bang. Nothing in Genesis refers to evolution either. God created everything at once.

Well if God created everything at once why does it say seven days? It's seriously your choice. You can believe and religion and science if you want, they can go together. If you don't want to it's fine, but first of all I need to understand Genesis better. haha

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

Check out the bold, I'm not really an expert. Although I've basically been learning Religion my whole life, we have only gotten down to explanations recently. Maybe during high school i will understand better.

It is universally assumed that it is seven days in our perspective. Hence... Sunday.


Herp.

[Jinjonator]

Does it say a day in our perspective? No it doesn't.

But why would we assume then that it means a day from God's perspective? If someone goes up to you and says "do this in one day", are you honestly going to ask "did you mean one day for me, or one day for God?" If it doesn't say it's one day for God, then it only makes sense that it means 24 Earth hours.

[Siege]

Why are we listening to the Devil anyways? We know it's you, Satan, adding "Banjo" is just a thinly veiled cover-up.

[Zy0n7]

A human day is 24 hours, based on the rotation of the earth. How could a God day be the same if he was creating earth and stuff thus human days not yet existed?

[Kaiser]

A human day is 24 hours, based on the rotation of the earth. How could a God day be the same if he was creating earth and stuff thus human days not yet existed?
dude, remember after science the bible, somehow, changed its meanings. This was only literal even tho back in the day everyone believed and proclaimed as a 100% fact.

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

Well if God created everything at once why does it say seven days? It's seriously your choice. You can believe and religion and science if you want, they can go together. If you don't want to it's fine, but first of all I need to understand Genesis better. haha

It's at this point where you're purposely avoiding my point and trying to make it look like something it isn't. I meant Genesis says God created everything in seven days. In such a random and short period of time. Religion and science can't co-exist. All you have is faith. Science relies on experiments and tests and evidence. Genesis says the first man was created from dust and the first woman from the first man's rib bone. Even though he could've just created them without using the dust or the bone. That God talked to them. That he gave man the punishment to work and women the punishment to feel pain during child birth and he punished snakes by making them crawl on their belly because the snake convinced the woman to eat an apple from a tree when God said it was forbidden. That he created every animal from the beginning.

Do you realize how crazy it all sounds and how science has debunked all of it? Actually you don't even need science, just common sense. Now I'm done. I always repeat myself in these debates. The point can be pushed no further. Believe what you want. I don't know why I even care what you think. You don't have the capacity to abide by reason and logic. There's no point in arguing with you.

[DekuScrubby]

Check out the bold, I'm not really an expert. Although I've basically been learning Religion my whole life, we have only gotten down to explanations recently. Maybe during high school i will understand better.

As previously said, it says "day". Therefore we take it as day = one day, because that's the information we've been provided with.

A human day is 24 hours, based on the rotation of the earth. How could a God day be the same if he was creating earth and stuff thus human days not yet existed?

Well, the short answer would be that god doesn't exist and this is just yet another one of the Bible's flaws.

[Grey Jinjo]

Just for the record, time isn't defined by the rotation of the Earth anymore. A day is 86,400 seconds. An individual second is defined as the length of time it takes for a certain amount of oscillations (I forget the number, but it is large) to pass when cesium atoms absorb microwave radiation.

[Zy0n7]

@Grey: Yep I know, the rotation stuff just was more clear to make my point.


Well, the short answer would be that god doesn't exist and this is just yet another one of the Bible's flaws.

I know, I was just pointing out a contradiction I thought of.


Anyway, as someone already said, I guess it's fine to believe in some superior existence, call it wathever you like, since there's only so much we know, you could call the start of existance God, or flying spagheti monster as well. As rational beings that have self conscience and think about all that surrounds us, it's normal to need something to hold on to when faced against concepts whe can't grasp. So I guess the appearance of religions was normal and helpful in it's ways, but you can't seriously take every (if any) part of their story as a fact, that's just stupid. A lot of things probably did happen, obviusly earth started to exist at one point, egiptians did have slaves, a flood really occured, and probably some guy named Jesus became a big revolutionary on it's society and time, but nothing was created out of the blue in 7 days, no one opened the sea in two, not every living being died on the flood 'cept for the couples on a wooden ship, and no one turned water into wine.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's fine to see religion with perspective and understand it, but don't take it as a fact and base your life around it and a higly unlikely existing God.

[Mr 3vil]

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's fine to see religion with perspective and understand it, but don't take it as a fact and base your life around it and a higly unlikely existing God.

Yeah, they're called theists. They just believe in a creator and that's it. No Jesus, no Heaven and no Hell.

I have a friend who calls himself a theist and not a Christian because he doesn't believe in the Bible at all.

[Siege]

Yeah, they're called theists. They just believe in a creator and that's it. No Jesus, no Heaven and no Hell.

I have a friend who calls himself a theist and not a Christian because he doesn't believe in the Bible at all.

Well technically Christians are Theists as well.

[sam.26]

SERIOUS QUESTION:

Am I the only one who would PREFER the imaginary Hell over the imaginary Heaven?

Hell would have all the cool people ^^ I'd prefer the wild, crazy people.

I mean, come on: Eternity with sinners, alcoholics, sluts, athiests, crazies. OR Eternity with people like WareRarez.

It's an easy decision for me. :)

The Bible says that when you go to Hell you're thrown into a pit of fire where you can't see or hear anything, and you're in intense pain for all eternity. Heaven, on the other hand, is an unimaginable paradise where no sin exists. You're choice.

[Jinjonator]

Paradise? No sin? I smell a contradiction.

No sex = no paradise

[KryptoniteJinjo]

No, I don't think it does. The NT nullifies a lot of the rules in the OT (such as stoning women to death who weren't virgins on their wedding night) but doesn't actually say that none of the stuff in the OT happened.

Also, what does Exodus have to do with this? We're talking about Genesis. And Romans 2:29 is about who is and isn't a Jew. 7:6 pretty much says what I said, it's the laws of the OT that are nullified and not the documented events. 2 Corinthians 3:6 doesn't say anything about the events not happening either.

Like I said, Paul said to the Corinthians and the Romans in those passages to look beyond the literal meaning of the Old Testament and take the spirit of it into account. Exodus is directly related to Genesis, having occurred right in the early days of the world, supposedly. Also, relating to Genesis, Paul talks about the Adam and Eve story symbolically, saying Adam is like Jesus, and Eve is like the church, and their marriage as thus. Noah and the flood is also a symbol of baptism and regeneration, and even Abraham is an allegory.

As for Jesus himself, again I say that he constantly refers to events in his life as things that happened in the past. The Temple of Jerusalem, Moses lifting up the snake, etc. It's pretty clear how not too much of the Old Testament needs to be taken seriously by New Testament standards.

Also, I don't have much to say about the time Genesis took place in, but like I said it wasn't meant to be taken literally anyways. That's why it can be interpreted by modern day standards.

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

The Bible says that when you go to Hell you're thrown into a pit of fire where you can't see or hear anything, and you're in intense pain for all eternity. Heaven, on the other hand, is an unimaginable paradise where no sin exists. You're choice.

You ignore every... and then you... holy shit I'm surprised you can get up in the morning. Well, here's something to think about. God gets to send people to a place where they become basically deaf and blind and they burn forever. That sounds more evil than anything I've ever heard in my life.




...And so you admit you're ultimately living for yourself because you're only doing what you do to get to heaven. To take a quote from Bill Maher, Religion, ego masquerading as humility.

[Mr 3vil]

The Bible says that when you go to Hell you're thrown into a pit of fire where you can't see or hear anything, and you're in intense pain for all eternity. Heaven, on the other hand, is an unimaginable paradise where no sin exists. You're choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKV-xrRvLTA

Another Dan Brown vid.

The Bible says that when you go to Hell you're thrown into a pit of fire where you can't see or hear anything, and you're in intense pain for all eternity. Heaven, on the other hand, is an unimaginable paradise where no sin exists. Your choice.

Holy crap, what is with people typing "Your" as "You're." We should make a rule that bans these people on spot.

Doesn't sound fair does it?

[Tooie]

Not going to bother reading the insane religious debate, but here's all I have to say.

A wooden ship with compartments. Wow, there's a 99.9% chance that's Noah's Ark.

[Greendrag]

Holy crap, what is with people typing "Your" as "You're." We should make a rule that bans these people on spot.
Sorry man, but that's the correct usage of "Your." "You are choice" does not make sense. You are the person mixing them up.

[Jinjonator]

^lol read the actual post

he fixed it in the quote

[Greendrag]

^lol read the actual post

he fixed it in the quote
Oh. o-O

[Yiffgurl]

The Bible says that when you go to Hell you're thrown into a pit of fire where you can't see or hear anything, and you're in intense pain for all eternity. Heaven, on the other hand, is an unimaginable paradise where no sin exists. You're choice.

hi remember me and my post

[1UP]

The Bible says that when you go to Hell you're thrown into a pit of fire where you can't see or hear anything, and you're in intense pain for all eternity. Heaven, on the other hand, is an unimaginable paradise where no sin exists. You're choice.

Yin Yang works. Heaven and Hell do not.

[BanjoMaster]

I'm not going to take part in this debate. Mostly because I don't want to read 29 pages. But I seriously was wondering last Tuesday whatever happened to the ark

[dragon_kazoooie]

I just wanted to point out something, you know there's a difference between macro evolution and micro evolution right people? Also when it comes to the whole "Prove this and that!" debate It just kind of annoys me because no one actually ever makes any attempt at all to prove or disprove anything, so these debates get actually quite pointless if you think about it..........

[Yiffgurl]

I just wanted to point out something, you know there's a difference between macro evolution and micro evolution right people? Also when it comes to the whole "Prove this and that!" debate It just kind of annoys me because no one actually ever makes any attempt at all to prove or disprove anything, so these debates get actually quite pointless if you think about it..........

Cool!

[Deebs]

ignorant chistians actually ever makes any attempt at all to prove or disprove anything,

Fix'd.

[dragon_kazoooie]

Fix'd.

What are you talking about, I have never once seen an atheist ever try and prove anything either.
The only reason I point out the two different evolutions is that most Christians believe in Micro Evolution, you'd have to be stupid not to. Macro Evolution is the thing that most Christians don't believe, which states silly things like whales earliest descendants being dog like organisms.

[WaywornMmmmm]

There is no need to prove things that already have proof.
Just for kicks, homologous and vestigial structures act as proof. Not to mention speciation has been witnessed.

[Siege]

There is no need to prove things that already have proof.
Just for kicks, homologous and vestigial structures act as proof. Not to mention speciation has been witnessed.

I never understood how homologous structures act as proof. You've got me on the other two, but if say for example an engineer runs into an issue in building a machine. If he had a design that worked for the same purpose on a previous machine, why wouldn't he just use it again.

[Jinjonator]

Different breeds of dogs = evolution.

Thread over.

[dragon_kazoooie]

There is no need to prove things that already have proof.
Just for kicks, homologous and vestigial structures act as proof. Not to mention speciation has been witnessed.

That is hardly what I would call proof, just because bats and lizards and humans all have skeletons, and just because they all look like blobs when they are fetuses does not in any way prove that evolution is true.

And Jinjonater, like a stated before, Micro evolution, I believe in that..........Those different breeds of dogs, are still dogs. None of them have, or ever will, turn into whales though.

[mr.mumbo]

They directly contradict each other. Go read Genesis. It explains how god snaps his metaphysical fingers and makes things appear, such as fully evolved life forms, the sky, light and darkness etc in seven days.

It is very possible that the opening of Genesis was written based on knowledge they had at that time. With no knowledge of modern science, the idea of the Earth being created in 7 days could have at that time been the most likely way the Earth began. If you read any World History book, you realize that we know very little about the beginning of time even now. There is very little confirmed information about anything until the Cenozoic era.

Going off of the ideas of the Big Bang and evolution, there is no reason God could not have set them off. We have no way of knowing how the energy that created the Big Bang came to be, or where the element that created the first single cell organisms came from.

[Jinjonator]

Dogs do not Digivolve into whales, therefore evolution is wrong. Interesting.

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

I'm sorry... what do atheists have to prove exactly? You'd have to be stupid not to accept evolution as a whole. The research is tested and proven, it's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You get nothing. You lose! Good day sir!

[WaywornMmmmm]

If he had a design that worked for the same purpose on a previous machine, why wouldn't he just use it again.
Sure, but bat wings and bird wings aren't the same type of wings so there goes your explaination for homologous structures.


That is hardly what I would call proof, just because bats and lizards and humans all have skeletons, and just because they all look like blobs when they are fetuses does not in any way prove that evolution is true.
It is things like the fact that whales, which don't have legs, have the same leg bones as the other mammals.

[Siege]

Sure, but bat wings and bird wings aren't the same type of wings so there goes your explaination for homologous structures.

Well now you're just splitting hairs. They're obviously similar enough for you to consider them homologous.

[WaywornMmmmm]

Nope, they are analogous.

[Pattt]

You get nothing. You lose! Good day sir!

This, End of Story.

[Siege]

Nope, they are analogous.

Then I don't even see the issue here.

EDIT: I have a feeling God will be joining us here after he gets his confirmation email.

[dragon_kazoooie]

Dogs do not Digivolve into whales, therefore evolution is wrong. Interesting.
Exactly!

I'm sorry... what do atheists have to prove exactly? You'd have to be stupid not to accept evolution as a whole. The research is tested and proven, it's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! You get nothing. You lose! Good day sir!
Where is this tested, and proven truth?

It is things like the fact that whales, which don't have legs, have the same leg bones as the other mammals.[/QUOTE]

I bet you anything it's some completely different bone that supports the whale and that's it, and sometime soon scientists will say oops we were wrong, now it's part of the whales arms.

[Dr. Worm]

Ooh, watch out guys. Apparently God is watching this thread right now.

[BobbyTheCat]

Ooh, watch out guys. Apparently God is watching this thread right now.

That fits so perfectly :)

[Dr. Worm]

I'm serious. Look at the bottom of the page.

EDIT: OK, nevermind. God's not viewing the thread anymore. On the front page of the forums, though, it says our newest member is God. :p

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

I bet you anything it's some completely different bone that supports the whale and that's it, and sometime soon scientists will say oops we were wrong, now it's part of the whales arms.

You bet, you guess, you think, you don't really know. Somehow you think that you're so great, that you're better than the scientific community. You just have to get over yourself. The evidence for evolution is more than you're giving against it. Read a book. The evidence holds strongly against anything else (God magically did it for no reason) and it's the best we've got.


*ahem*


FOSSIL.

[BobbyTheCat]

Oh God Jesus just signed up.

[Dr. Worm]

Oh God Jesus just signed up.

Probably the same person made both accounts.

This is hilarious, though.

EDIT: Jesus is viewing the thread.

[Jesus]

Hey dudes...Dads having a bit of trouble with registration....lousy mortal system...
Anyway... I'll be happy to yield any questions on my existence! :D

[Kaiser]

In what dimension is this universe on?

[BobbyTheCat]

And he posted. Woah.

[Jesus]

In what dimension is this universe on?

The Fifth... Duh.

[Kaiser]

and in which one are you posting from? Legit question, bro.

[BobbyTheCat]

What is your favorite color?

[Jesus]

and in which one are you posting from? Legit question, bro.

The Seventh.

[Jesus]

What is your favorite color?

Magenta.

[Siege]

Funny, God should be able to manipulate the system and activate his own account. Even infinite cosmic power has trouble getting confirmation emails from this place.

[Jesus]

Funny, God should be able to manipulate the system and activate his own account. Even infinite cosmic power has trouble getting confirmation emails from this place.

Dad can't even work a condom from billions of miles in the air... He's useless.

[Tooie]

Jesus, where were you when my family was viciously slaughtered in front of my eyes?

[Jesus]

Jesus, where were you when my family was viciously slaughtered in front of my eyes?

Hey thats not my job ... Where were YOU when i got nailed to a damn cross?

[Siege]

Jesus, where were you when my family was viciously slaughtered in front of my eyes?

He was carrying you so you wouldn't get sand in your toes or something like that.

Hey thats not my job ... Where were YOU when i got nailed to damn a cross?

That sounds like you got nailed so you would damn a cross. Is the bible incorrect then?

[BobbyTheCat]

Tooie just got served.

[Tooie]

Hey thats not my job ... Where were YOU when i got nailed to damn a cross?

Touché.

Can you teach me how to walk on water?

[Dr. Worm]

Hey Jesus, why did you have to die on the cross for everyone's sins? Couldn't there have been a better way to do it than dying?

[Jesus]

Touché.

Can you teach me how to walk on water?

So you insult me by saying I should be everywhere at once, make me relive a horrible moment in my life... THEN ask for a favor? See now I'm starting to remember why I left in the first place.

[Jesus]

Hey Jesus, why did you have to die on the cross to pay the debt for everyone's sins, couldn't there have been a better way to do it?

Probably... Seemed like a good idea at the time.

[Siege]

Dad can't even work a condom from billions of miles in the air... He's useless.

Nice job honoring your father, bro.

[Tooie]

So you insult me by saying I should be everywhere at once, make me relive a horrible moment in my life... THEN ask for a favor? See now I'm starting to remember why I left in the first place.

I'm sorry, Jesus, I don't mean no harm. :(

But seriously, can you? I have a deep-seated fear of sharks, if you just answer my question I'll be out of your hair.

[Jesus]

I'm sorry, Jesus, I don't mean no harm. :(

But seriously, can you? I have a deep-seated fear of sharks, if you just answer my question I'll be out of your hair.

Okay fine, I have filled you with spirit. Go to shark infested waters and you'll be able to walk... I swear on my life...

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

Jesus, why don't you just set the record straight on this whole "religion" thing?

[Dr. Worm]

Jesus, do you get fed up with the general stupidity of the human race?

[Jesus]

Jesus, why don't you just set the record straight on this whole "religion" thing?

I shall Mr Colbert.

It's Not an Ark.
There was no Ark.
The End.

[Jesus]

Jesus, do you get fed up with the general stupidity of the human race?

Don't get me started on Sam.26 ... Jesus Christ!

[Tooie]

Okay fine, I have filled you with spirit. Go to shark infested waters and you'll be able to walk... I swear on my life...

Thank you, Jesus! :)

I'm off to test it out in Kosi Bay, South Africa, the most shark-infested water in the world, just so I can taunt as many sharks as possible. I've already got the plane ticket, and I'll be off tomorrow! Thank you for your spirit! :o

[Jesus]

Thank you, Jesus! :)

I'm off to test it out in Kosi Bay, South Africa, the most shark-infested water in the world, just so I can taunt as many sharks as possible. I've already got the plane ticket, and I'll be off tomorrow! Thank you for your spirit! :o

No problem, T.

[Dr. Worm]

Don't get me started on Sam.26 ... Jesus Christ!

INORITE?

[Gaming Master2k]

Don't get me started on Sam.26 ... Me!

Fixed?

[Jesus]

Fixed?

Oh dude my bad. Cheers! :)

If theres anything i can do ... dont hesitate.

[Tooie]

Fixed?

O SHI-

[BobbyTheCat]

Oh dude my bad. Cheers! :)

If theres anything i can do ... dont hesitate.

Can you bring Billy Mays back to life? Please? :(

[Jesus]

Can you bring Billy Mays back to life? Please? :(

Well Dad tried to compensate with Vince... But y'know... Sometimes things don't work out...

EDIT: I just lost the game thankyou very much Bobby! .. 2000 years its been! 2000 years!

[BobbyTheCat]

Yes! I have done it! My life is complete!

[Yiffgurl]

Hey dudes...Dads having a bit of trouble with registration....lousy mortal system...
Anyway... I'll be happy to yield any questions on my existence! :D

Reading this post while listening to The Velvet Underground - Jesus

lol

[Jinjonator]

Shit just got real.

[Jesus]

Shit just got real.

Damn straight, shit just got real.

Anybody have any more questions? I've got a lot of free time on my hands you know.

[BobbyTheCat]

Damn straight, shit just got real.

Anybody have any more questions? I've got a lot of free time on my hands you know.

Cool. How did you find RWP, anyway?

[Jesus]

Cool. How did you find RWP, anyway?

Ahem, I'm Jesus. Nuff Said. Also I do enjoy Donkey Kong 64.

[BobbyTheCat]

Yeah, DK64 is a pretty cool game.

[Dr. Worm]

Ahem, I'm Jesus. Nuff Said. Also I do enjoy Donkey Kong 64.

You have good taste. I approve. :thumbsup:

We're the best forum on the interwebz, anyway.

Jesus, can you divide anything by zero?

[Jesus]

You have good taste. I approve. :thumbsup:

We're the best forum on the interwebz, anyway.

Jesus, can you divide by zero?

Alas... Only Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

[Yiffgurl]

Alas... Only Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

ROFL HE SAID CHUCK NORRIS O.O XDDDDDDD OMGZZZZ LOLL;AKDSFLKJASKLDFJAKSL;FLKJBHLK;ESD AGGAESBHAERHBESAGHA GT3QAGHQEA

[Jesus]

ROFL HE SAID CHUCK NORRIS O.O XDDDDDDD OMGZZZZ LOLL;AKDSFLKJASKLDFJAKSL;FLKJBHLK;ESD AGGAESBHAERHBESAGHA GT3QAGHQEA

You belong in a clinic.

[Dr. Worm]

Hey Jesus, is heaven everything it's cracked up to be?

[MetalHeroOfTime]

Jesus for member of the year.

[Jesus]

Hey Jesus, is heaven everything it's cracked up to be?

Not at all... Unless you're into chastity... Everyone knows the cool people go to hell anyway ... I visit sometimes.

[Kaiser]

ROFL HE SAID CHUCK NORRIS O.O XDDDDDDD OMGZZZZ LOLL;AKDSFLKJASKLDFJAKSL;FLKJBHLK;ESD AGGAESBHAERHBESAGHA GT3QAGHQEA
Now alakazam I like you and all but the whole "lol internet newb" calling is getting stupid.

[Yiffgurl]

Now alakazam I like you and all but the whole "lol internet newb" calling is getting stupid.

It's a defense mechanism, not something I can control, sorry :mumbo

[Yiffgurl]

I have disable smilies on by default lol

[Jesus]

And so to conclude, the Bible is absolute bollocks, and should not be taken seriously at all. Let there never be another stupid, immature religious debate on the RWP unless the Christians will take into account obvious scientific fact and recognise it as truth. The Lord has Spoken.

[BobbyTheCat]

Heil Jesus!

[Jinjonator]

Hail Hitler Jesus!

[Dylan Yoshi]

Hey, Jesus, how is it that God is unable to create a world bigger than Grunty Industries?

[dragon_kazoooie]

You bet, you guess, you think, you don't really know. Somehow you think that you're so great, that you're better than the scientific community. You just have to get over yourself. The evidence for evolution is more than you're giving against it. Read a book. The evidence holds strongly against anything else (God magically did it for no reason) and it's the best we've got.


*ahem*


FOSSIL.

Whoa there calm yourself, just because I don't believe in evolution doesn't mean I'm better than, or hate, the scientific community, I'm just saying that I don't agree with the whole evolution part of it. Besides scientists have been known to be wrong in the past, and I'm sure they will be wrong in the future. I think the whole whale thing is one of those things.

[Airman]

Oh dear.

Why did you post this here? Of all the places on the internet..
Did you just expect everyone to suddenly stop being atheist?

[Jesus]

I REPEAT. Discussion. Over. Jesus has Spoken!

[DevilBanjo]

I REPEAT. Discussion. Over. Jesus has Spoken!

AMEN!