Matrix Revolutions

[Grey Jinjo]

Well Matrix Reloaded and the game "Enter The Matrix" just came out, leaving a very very cliffed ending for the next movie. But how cliffed? What is going to happen? How the heck did Neo stop the sentinels? What is Bane/Smith going to do? How did Bane/Smith even manage to stay ALIVE. Will Zion be crumbled into ashes?

Alot of people believe in a Matrix within a Matrix idea, giving Neo powers in Zion but personally I don't. I think the brothers are a tad more creative than that. What do you all think?

Have you even SEEN the movie? ;)

[Icy Guy]

It's obvious that the war between humans and machines is going to end, because that's what the next movie is mostly about - the war.

I think Bane/Smith stayed alive because he climbed out of the hovercraft before triggering the EMP, or something. You see him climbing down a ladder, and then mention of the EMP downing the 5 hovercraft, so that's plausible...

Personally, I DO think that Neo will finally have Matrix powers in the Real World. As the One, he's supposed to be able to finally defeat the machines in a war. And if you look at it from a practical side, how much of a difference can one person really make without special powers?

...but that's just what I think.

(First person to rip off Triskal this time around, whoo. ;))

[Grey Jinjo]

Yes but if you played through Enter The Matrix it says that Neo "brushed the source" and is "between our world and theirs" (or something along those lines). I think its possible that the coding not only for the Matrix but also the coding that primarily runs and functions the machines (or at least the sentinels) so by being in the source he would be able to disable their power, which is what he did to blow them up. A destruction from the inside of sorts.

I think his mind in the Matrix could handle the pressure of something some incredible that it could not even be fathomed, but when he did something powerful that he could not comprehend outside of the Matrix his body could not handle the actual pressure, thus shutting down wielding him unconscious.

But thats just what I think.

Second to rip-off Triskal, w00t.

[Icy Guy]

Originally posted by Grey Jinjo
Yes but if you played through Enter The Matrix it says that Neo "brushed the source" and is "between our world and theirs". I think its possible that the coding not only for the Matrix but also the coding that primarily runs and functions the machines (or at least the sentinels) so by being in the source he would be able to disable their power, which is what he did to blow them up. A destruction from the inside of sorts.

I think his mind in the Matrix could handle the pressure of something some incredible that it could not even be fathomed, but when he did something powerful that he could not comprehend outside of the Matrix his body could not handle the actual pressure, thus shutting down wielding him unconscious.

But thats just what I think.

Second to rip-off Triskal, w00t.

Hm...good point there. I couldn't really argue against it, because it makes sense. And yes, I HAVE played ETM - I've beaten it with both characters now. I just forgot some parts. ;)

Damn....please stop thinking and making good points. :p Er...I mean, go ahead and make more. :)

[Banjo's Banjo]

Well, although I haven't played ETM (heck, I haven't even bought a new video game system in years), I think that Neo, along with everyone in Zion are in fact, robots. Yeah, robots. Seriously. Think about it:

1)Neo's ability to stop the sentinels,
2)Jacking in/out of matrix,
3)and so on.

[Grey Jinjo]

Eh, maybe, but what would be the point of that? Why would they make giant FIELDS of robots that only sit in a container of pink goo? X_X.

[Banjo's Banjo]

Because it could be like a conspiracy to make the robots think that they actually won the war, and took over everything. I mean if you think about it, that would explain a lot of things, including how the sentinels knew how many "people" were in Zion: The real humans are keeping dibs on them, and so they send 1 sentinel, their personal control robots to regulate the # of robots in Zion. Wait. Well ok, so this doesn't make too much sense, and wouldn't make for a very good ending, but still, its possible....

[Grey Jinjo]

Ah...Yeah.

The people in Zion are the people who rejected the program, at a subconscious level. They are there because their mind new, even subconscously, that the Matrix was a program.

But machines lack a conscous. They are bits and data.

So metaphorically, if there was a war between humans and machines, the only way to win would be to put the machines in a virtual world that SEEMS like reality.

The lack of conscous would leave them helpless at figuring out that their world was fake. The people inside the matrix are no more than programs written to exist between both of their programs to confuse and otherwise control the machines.

Nice.

[Hakey Wake]

Personally, I believe that Neo,Trinity and Morpheus are all programs, and that Agent Smith (A.k.A a virius) is actually representing the humans who released him into the matrix to corrupt it and even crash the whole thing.

That's a short incomplete summary, for a long/tedious explanation go HERE: http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=41025517&replies=2

[Grey Jinjo]

Ok wait, I read that entirely thing and I'm confused.

So Smith is the ONLY Human in the Matrix? That is the only possible way for it to work. And even THEN, although it would make sense, it would be relatively irrelevant (oxymoron). Because who really cares if the machines are all living in some sort of virtual reality world. They aren't doing anything. Let them go :P. Why do you need to crash it =P.

[Hakey Wake]

Originally posted by Grey Jinjo
Ok wait, I read that entirely thing and I'm confused.

So Smith is the ONLY Human in the Matrix? That is the only possible way for it to work. And even THEN, although it would make sense, it would be relatively irrelevant (oxymoron). Because who really cares if the machines are all living in some sort of virtual reality world. They aren't doing anything. Let them go :P. Why do you need to crash it =P.

From what I gathered, SMith was a virus put into the Matrix by the humans who are outside of the matrix AND the alleged 'matrix out of the matrix'.

Of course, all of that could just be hilariously wrong...

[Banjo's Banjo]

I guess I never thought of Smith as a virus put into the system by the humans, but I mean it would make sense in my theory.

Here's another thing to think about: one theory a friend of mine told me involved Smith and the other agents actually being one of the other "Ones" converted by the matrix (or the humans, or whatever controls the matrix) into wandering soldiers that fight the rebels inside the matrix. I mean it does make sense considering the speed and power they have, so who knows...

[Grey Jinjo]

Originally posted by Hakey Wake
From what I gathered, SMith was a virus put into the Matrix by the humans who are outside of the matrix AND the alleged 'matrix out of the matrix'.

Of course, all of that could just be hilariously wrong...

So again, they are all robots inside the Matrix, and who cares what they are doing why not just let them go. X_X.

[Hakey Wake]

Originally posted by Grey Jinjo
So again, they are all robots inside the Matrix, and who cares what they are doing why not just let them go. X_X.

Um....uh.... -perspires-

Just another plot hole in the matrix I guess.

I mean, if the agents can morph into ANYONE who is in the matrix, why don't they just morph into Neo?

[Grey Jinjo]

They can only morph into people that have not been freed yet.

The reason they couldn't morph into Neo in the first one, is because he was falling under belief that the world was fake, and sem-releasing himself from their transformation. Believing that the Matrix is real, even for a short period of time will allow them to morph into your body.

As seen in the Animatrix short "Detective".

[Hakey Wake]

Ah well, I haven't seen any of the Animatrix films so........:eek:

[Grey Jinjo]

Good, don't bother.

The Animatrix does 2 things..

1: Give you nice tidbits of information here and there that tie in with The Matrix Trilogy...

2: Bore you to, from, and beyond death.

[Hakey Wake]

L.O.L

I was *almost* tempted to buy the DVD but I really thought they were just trying to milk the Matrix for all it was worth.

[Walrus]

Well, The AniMatrix was (sort of) boring. It did give a slight amout of information. With the exception of The Second Renaissance. It presented a wealth of information previously unknown. Besidse offering many different animation styles, it wasn't worth seeing (With the exception of The Second Renaissance).

Revolutions is supposed to be released in theaters in November of This year.
Such a cliffhanger ending, much like what trailed the Matrix:Reloaded, can only be followed by another installment of the same, or greater calibur (<-My Opinion).