Banjo Didn't defeat Grunty.

[QFTer]

Everyone says It was Banjo and Kazooie who were the "Big Heros" of the Game, they always boast about how they Defeated Gruntilda.

Too Bad they didn't.

Banjo-Kazooie

Banjo activated the jinjonator who Knocked Grunty off, but it was the Jinjonator who did all the work!

After Grunty fell she was trapped under a rock, if she wasn't so could have easily gone up there and killed them both.

Banjo-Tooie

Banjo keeps shooting eggs and Grunty "drops her spell" making the machine explode, this time it was Grunty who defeated herself and she was still alive after that happened.

So Banjo and Kazooie aren't really Heros.

[s.w.a.t]

But who activates the Jinjonater? And who causes Grunty to drop her spell?

[repobanjo]

I guess that you can say they were the indirect cause of Grunty's deaths. They didin't directly kill her, but they were the cause that the thing killed her.

QFTer and s.w.a.t are both right. HAPPY MEDIUM!

[s.w.a.t]

NEVER!*runs into sectet lair*NOW FOR MY MOST POWERFUL WEAPON! Plushies.

[Princess J]

Yes, the Jinjonator rules! And too often people forget who REALLY saved the day ;)

But, you have to remember that Banjo and Kazooie did summon the Jinjonator in the first place. He couldn't have come without them, and they probably couldn't have beaten Grunty without him. So they each depended on each other.

[Gold Jinjo]

Banjo activated the jinjonator who Knocked Grunty off, but it was the Jinjonator who did all the work!

While the Jinjonater knocked Grunty off her tower, that only made up a small part of the final battle. Not to mention Banjo and Kazooie's adventure throughout the entire game :)

[Theguyoverthere]

Everyone says It was Banjo and Kazooie who were the "Big Heros" of the Game, they always boast about how they Defeated Gruntilda.

Too Bad they didn't.



People are always trying to point out things that don't make any sense in the banjo universe so they can look cool.

Too bad they aren't.

Seriously, pointing stupid stuff out like that is kinda funny but sometimes annyoing because think about it, they wouldn't call the game Banjo-Kazooie-Jinjonator-Gruntilda-dropping-spell-and-getting-crushed-by-rock now would they? That would be one heckuva long name LOL :D

PS: Sorry, but I had to say that it was just good timing I think it actually is kinda funny that they aren't the real heroes.

[QFTer]

Seriously, pointing stupid stuff out like that is kinda funny but sometimes annyoing because think about it, they wouldn't call the game Banjo-Kazooie-Jinjonator-Gruntilda-dropping-spell-and-getting-crushed-by-rock now would they? That would be one heckuva long name LOL :D

Why would they call it that? The name is still the same.

[Theguyoverthere]

How is Banjo-Kazooie-Jinjonator-Gruntilda-dropping-spell-and-getting-crushed-by-rock the same as Banjo-Kazooie?

[QFTer]

How is Banjo-Kazooie-Jinjonator-Gruntilda-dropping-spell-and-getting-crushed-by-rock the same as Banjo-Kazooie?

No, I said they why would need to name it that?

[Theguyoverthere]

Because if the game is about who you said it was about then they would have to call it that for it to make sense. Please refer to the my signature for any further questions.

[P.o.t.O]

Banjo Didn't Defeat Grunty...

It was Chuck Norris.

[s.w.a.t]

^Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Malons]

You're right, because what are Banjo Kazooie? Images on a screen controlled by a greater force, you... so thus you're the hero... have a cookie!

[Tanjo]

Who knows, they might Be saving her full defeat by b&k for banjo threeie.

[Gruntling]

I'm still waiting for Grunty to be a robotic-head-in-a-jar of some sorts in BK3. :D

[Ice Lightning]

But, Banjo and Kazooie could never have activated the Jinjonator if they hadn't learnt the moves from Bottles, so he is the hero. But then they would never have learnt the moves unless Grunty kidnapped Tooty, so Grunty and Tooty are joint hero's.

The trail can go back forever and it could start in a number of different ways, e.g Dingpot didn't have to fire them to the top, Mumbo didn't have to transform them.

So you see, in a way everyone is a hero.

[Upsilon]

The Jinjonator wouldn't even have turned up if Banjo and Kazooie hadn't rescued the Jinjos.

[QFTer]

The Jinjonator wouldn't even have turned up if Banjo and Kazooie hadn't rescued the Jinjos.

Actually, it never matters if you save the jinjos they turn up anyways.

[qwertybub3]

The minimum amount of rescued Jinjos to fight Grunty is 15.

[repobanjo]

Actually, air is the hero. If it wasn't for air, Banjo wouldn't be able to breathe, and would die. Wihout air, the Jinjonater, Mumbo, and Dingpot wouldn't be able to breathe. Air is the hero.

[s.w.a.t]

Actually, rocks are the hero. Without rocks, the lair couldn't have been built, which means that it couldn't have happened.

[Ice Lightning]

Without Rare the game would never have been made and none of us would be here discussing this.

[jumbo mumbo]

Actually, rocks are the hero. Without rocks, the lair couldn't have been built, which means that it couldn't have happened.

Wouldn't that make rocks the villain?;)

[s.w.a.t]

Both.

[repobanjo]

ACTUALLY, without air, no one would be alive to build the lair.

[s.w.a.t]

without anyone to breathe it, noone would know it was there and nothing would interact with it, there for it would cease to exist.

[jumbo mumbo]

without anyone to breathe it, noone would know it was there and nothing would interact with it, there for it would cease to exist.

AHHHHHHHH!!! You make my brain hurt.:p

[Ozimul]

Air isn't the hero! POLYGONS are the heroes, because Banjo, Kazooie, Grunty, Tooty, Bottles, Mumbo, Dingpot, the Lair, the air in Banjo-Kazooie, and everything else are made of POLYGONS. :p

[s.w.a.t]

The air isn't made of polygons. OWNED

[Hollow Note]

Everyone says It was Banjo and Kazooie who were the "Big Heros" of the Game, they always boast about how they Defeated Gruntilda.

Too Bad they didn't.

Banjo-Kazooie

Banjo activated the jinjonator who Knocked Grunty off, but it was the Jinjonator who did all the work!

After Grunty fell she was trapped under a rock, if she wasn't so could have easily gone up there and killed them both.

Banjo-Tooie

Banjo keeps shooting eggs and Grunty "drops her spell" making the machine explode, this time it was Grunty who defeated herself and she was still alive after that happened.

So Banjo and Kazooie aren't really Heros.

Hey, hey, spoiler warning, thanks alot! :p

[Theguyoverthere]

The minimum amount of rescued Jinjos to fight Grunty is 15.
Really? What happens if you don't rescue 15? Does the Jinjo statues not appear and then you're out of luck?

[QFTer]

Really? What happens if you don't rescue 15? Does the Jinjo statues not appear and then you're out of luck?

You still have the golden feathers.

[Ozimul]

The air isn't made of polygons. OWNED
You're right. My bad. Don't make me feel like a n00b, please. I don't like feeling n00bish. :(

Rare is the hero! They made the game with the sky and the polygons! :D

[Ice Lightning]

That's exactly what I said earlier.Without Rare the game would never have been made and none of us would be here discussing this.

[gobi'svengance]

But without the nintendo 64, where would the game be on?

[Dricenticore]

And WE are the heroes for buying nintendoes and alowing nintendo to make a new console for rare to make banjo on for banjo to be in for mumbo and bottles to help him find the jinjos to make the statue appear to make it possible to kill grunty to let the ROCK fall on her to make her sisters want to rescue her and make a new game- therefore they made banjo tooie because we bought neses and sneses

[Theguyoverthere]

It's a flippin' game! Does it really matter who's fault it is? Although, I've gotta admit some of you peoples' stories and ideas are quite entertaining LOL

Here's my 2 cents:

Tooty is the hero because she's the reason you have to fight grunty in the first place. Without her being kidnapped, Banjo and Kazooie never could have "defeated" grunty.

[repobanjo]

Actually, the Big Bang is the hero (if you belive in it). Without it, space and time wouldn't exist, therefore humans wouldn't exist, therefore Rare wouldn't exist, therefore the game wouldn't exist.

You can't go farther back then the Big Bang.

[s.w.a.t]

Without Grunty's mom, she couldn't have been there.

[Ozimul]

Without Grunty's mom, she couldn't have been there.
ROFL! :D

[jumbo mumbo]

Nothing is the hero. Without nothing there would be nowhere for anything to be anywhere. There has to be nothing or nothing would fit anywhere. TOP THAT! :D

[s.w.a.t]

without nothing there would be something. OhWnEd

[LaorBR]

ROFL this topic has made my day. :D
Hey wait, did the big bang just create itself?

OH WAIT, I KNOW! IT WAS CHUCK NORRIS!
Chuck Norris created nothing and then he put the big bang on it, then nothing turned into something. Thus, Chuck Norris created Rare and Chuck Norris taught the moves to Bottles and Chuck Norris became the Jinjonator and Chuck Norris defeated Grunty with a roundhouse kick.
And Chuck Norris is our hero!
*applauds*

[s.w.a.t]

CHUCK NORRIS IS teh r0x0r5.

[Ratabulous]

Hmm...Banjo and Kazooie are sort of like Batman. He never kills anything 'directly.' Even the Gruntlings reincarnate after about 30 seconds.

[JaredDSMan]

Well, we ALL know what to await in the next Banjo game. What is that I see shards and torn up signs and two weight being lifted up? Uh oh, here comes Hag2 and 3! ;)