Do you smoke?

[Rock]

Interesting poll, I've believed we've never had it, or had it a long time ago. So, do you smoke?

I don't smoke.

[Al K. Holic]

Hell no, I've tried a cigarette before and all it did was make me cough like crazy. I can't stand cigarettes. I do not plan to become a smoker.

[Y-Kaz]

No, and I've never tried to smoke....

yet...

[1UP]

Absolutely not, I don't want to smell like ass all the time.

[frankieforever]

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h!

[StarFox]

inb4darkjinjo

tried it

[Deebs]

Nah, I tried weed once but I didn't think much of it.

[wkw427]

nope.avi

Never will, either.avi

[J@mie]

Tried it, liked it (had one drag) but my gf doesn't want me to. inb4 whipped.

[TRBB]

No, why would I?

Actually, why do people smoke and why was the cigar/cigarette invented in the first place anyways? It's just another way to die that's all.

I know we use alcohol and drugs as medicine, but what's the purpose of smoking?

[SuperNintendo64]

^It's supposed to relieve stress or something like that.

The smell of moth balls is extremely unsettling to me, so no I don't and never will smoke.

[frankieforever]

GODDAMN! LEGOS ARE AWESOME! Btw Im totally NOT smoking.gif
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE YEEAW!

[Twi]

No, why would I?

Actually, why do people smoke and why was the cigar/cigarette invented in the first place anyways? It's just another way to die that's all.

I believe it was originally seen as a status symbol.

[J@mie]

No, why would I?

Actually, why do people smoke and why was the cigar/cigarette invented in the first place anyways? It's just another way to die that's all.

I know we use alcohol and drugs as medicine, but what's the purpose of smoking?

that's stupid, it's like saying why was chocolate invented.

[Bartimaeus]

that's stupid, it's like saying why was chocolate invented.

Except that chocolate doesn't have dozens of carcinogens in it and doesn't generally kill you and isn't a highly addictive substance.

[Twi]

Except that chocolate doesn't have dozens of carcinogens in it and doesn't generally kill you and isn't a highly addictive substance.

This is debatable.

But it's good for your heart! :teach:

[JohnyT94]

I don't smoke, although I've tried it a few times; I didn't like it.

And it's interesting that they were once considered as a status symbol... as they still are today.

[Bartimaeus]

This is debatable.

I meant naturally addictive, not humanly, :P

[BobbyTheCat]

No, never will. It is one of the worst things you can do to your body.

[Madous]

When smoking began, it was used to show your status (as Twi pointed out). All the "fancy women" would smoke, as well as rich men would smoke cigars. Now, when you think of smoking, you usually just think of that guy in the trailer park who goes through two packs a day.

Oh how things have changed.

[Al K. Holic]

When smoking began, it was used to show your status (as Twi pointed out). All the "fancy women" would smoke, as well as rich men would smoke cigars. Now, when you think of smoking, you usually just think of that guy in the trailer park who goes through two packs a day.

Oh how things have changed.

I think I was one of only a small handful of people in my graduating class who didn't smoke. Sad, isn't it?

[Dylan Yoshi]

All health issues aside, I just find smoking to be disgusting.

[BlueGaze]

No No No No No No No No

(and I'm glad I never have)

[Ice Matt]

I have never smoked, and will never smoke. It is dumb. It destroys your health and makes you stink, it wastes money and could be breathed in as second hand smoke.

If you smoke then that says a lot about you.

^It's supposed to relieve stress or something like that.
And the thing is, the cigarettes are a big thing getting you stressed in the first place. The cigarettes get you worked up, and then having one calms you down.

[DarkJinjo]

I smoke weed every day. Literally everyday. Everyday. Multiple times every day.

And cigarettes, about half a pack a day.

But you guys know this.

[Dr. Worm]

I've never smoked, and hopefully never will. No guarantees, though.

[Kazooie-Tooie]

If I had access to weed.

[BobbyTheCat]

I smoke weed every day. Literally everyday. Everyday. Multiple times every day.

And cigarettes, about half a pack a day.

But you guys know this.

Why do you choose to ruin your body like this?

[DarkJinjo]

Because I feel like it, sir.

[Kaz da Breegull]

I don't smoke... tobacco that is. I do smoke weed and I've done another cannabis-related drug called JWH-018 (it's legal in most states but it's slowly being made illegal, gah). I want to try Salvia sometime.

[Al K. Holic]

If I had access to weed.

Being honest, weed is the only drug I'd like to actually try at some point in my life. THEN we'll see how much more amazing psychadelic rock gets...heh heh....

[DarkJinjo]

You guys don't know what you're missing, but then again neither do I half of the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qoCq-KsmZU

[fantanoice]

I've never smoked and never will. I hate the stuff.

[Porky]

No, I don't see the appeal of having to stand out in the cold (UK smoking ban and such) and inhale some tar (not sure if this is still in cigarettes these days) and nicotine substance that slowly kills me. Plus I know that I'd hate it and would be unable to give it up if I did.

EDIT: The hell? the british slang term for cigarettes is blocked? Oh actually, I know why...

[Gruntling]

No, I don't smoke. It's a nasty, dirty habit I hope to never pick up.

[Adam]

I don't due to asthma, but I think I'd actually like to try one of those E-Cigs I've been hearing so much about...

[honeybear]

I smoke socially, BUT NOT CIGARETTES.
Hookah's legal, I wonder if I'd enjoy it...

[Mr. Pokeylope]

I tried hookah once with a friend and a bunch of other people I didn't know, I didn't have a bad time, but I won't do it again. My chest hurt for the whole next day and I had a cold for the next two weeks.

There's also the fact that I enjoy running, and smoking is the perfect way to wreck my lungs and keep me from being able to run. Among other things that's one reason I'd never take up smoking.

[Kaz da Breegull]

Thinking semiotics, that many of you don't associate tobacco smoking with positive icons is probably a healthy sign that whatever government-shaped anti-tobacco discourse in your country is working. Which is nice. But between this thread and the "I don't drink because I take the moral high ground" some of you come across as fairly unlikeable individuals. Try to understand why people might make different decisions to those you make yourself before concluding that they're inferior :)

That and people seem to think quitting tobacco is easy as pie. It isn't. I have family members and friends who have been trying for years to quit to no avail. What I always find amusing is that if you look at this little number (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean _physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg/500px-Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean _physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg.png), note where tobacco and alcohol are placed in relation to things like cannabis, LSD, and ecstasy.

Electronic cigarettes are interesting; my brother uses them and you basically place some liquid nicotine and flavoring into the "cigarette" device which then heats them into a vapor that you inhale. Pretty cool, actually, because it gives you the nicotine without having to inhale the other stuff found in cigarette smoke.

[Deebs]

That and people seem to think quitting tobacco is easy as pie. It isn't.

I've never known anyone who thinks that. :P

[J@mie]

I have never smoked, and will never smoke. It is dumb. It destroys your health and makes you stink, it wastes money and could be breathed in as second hand smoke.

If you smoke then that says a lot about you.


And the thing is, the cigarettes are a big thing getting you stressed in the first place. The cigarettes get you worked up, and then having one calms you down.

What is it with some people and being stupid in this thread? Saying it wastes money is the same as saying that drinking alcohol is wasting money, or that paying for electric is a waste beacause you can use candles. Basically everywhere in England at least has smoking bans so you have to be outside/in designated areas to smoke, so if you don't want to breathe it in, then don't go near a smoker, simple as. It's dumb? Sounds like you're the dumb one, making a judgement on a person just because they smoke, you sound like a right prat that deserves a slap.

If you don't want to smoke, don't, but don't go lecturing people about how bad it is for their health, smokers obviously know the risks of smoking.

[DarkJinjo]

What is it with some people and being stupid in this thread? Saying it wastes money is the same as saying that drinking alcohol is wasting money, or that paying for electric is a waste beacause you can use candles. Basically everywhere in England at least has smoking bans so you have to be outside/in designated areas to smoke, so if you don't want to breathe it in, then don't go near a smoker, simple as. It's dumb? Sounds like you're the dumb one, making a judgement on a person just because they smoke, you sound like a right prat that deserves a slap.

If you don't want to smoke, don't, but don't go lecturing people about how bad it is for their health, smokers obviously know the risks of smoking.

Thank you!

[Al K. Holic]

Of course smoking is hard to quit. I should know first hand, my dad has been trying to quit smoking for years. He tried for the first time about a decade ago. After only 6 months, he relapsed and started smoking them again. He tried again a couple years ago. So far he has managed to not smoke a cigarette since then, but there still always remains the possibility that he could relapse and smoke again.

[J@mie]

Of course smoking is hard to quit. I should know first hand, my dad has been trying to quit smoking for years. He tried for the first time about a decade ago. After only 6 months, he relapsed and started smoking them again. He tried again a couple years ago. So far he has managed to not smoke a cigarette since then, but there still always remains the possibility that he could relapse and smoke again.

My dads the same, he quit for about 6months max then got back into it, he's trying again for new year.

[honeybear]

If you smoke then that says a lot about you.


OH? REALLY?
I wasn't aware that smoking says things about me, please, inform me.

[Adam]

It says that you give good head.

or so ive heard

[honeybear]

It says that you give good head.

or so ive heard

Such a gentleman-ly response :3c

[J@mie]

OH? REALLY?
I wasn't aware that smoking says things about me, please, inform me.

Someone bout to get their balls crushed

[honeybear]

Someone bout to get their balls crushed

Hope you meant the OP...I don't have balls... XD

[J@mie]

Hope you meant the OP...I don't have balls... XD

Yeah I know ya don't :P I meant that quoted dude

[honeybear]

Yeah I know ya don't :P I meant that quoted dude

Oh yeah, in that case, you're right. XD

[Keegan]

Lol, smoking.

[Y-Kaz]

Lol, balls

[Kaz da Breegull]

Okay DarkJinjo clearly you and I need to get high together sometime. :P

[CaptainDredlokk]

You know, smoke could mean weed too. Never gonna do the cigs, but I really don't see anything wrong with marijuana (Even though I personally don't use the stuff; just don't see what's wrong with it).

As for me, it's a no for smoking cigs, but a maybe once or twice to keep the party going on marijuana, that is when I get old enough to not get caught, since my dad can smell the stuff instantly, him bein a hardcore stoner and all. :3

[Al K. Holic]

You know, smoke could mean weed too. Never gonna do the cigs, but I really don't see anything wrong with marijuana (Even though I personally don't use the stuff; just don't see what's wrong with it).

As for me, it's a no for smoking cigs, but a maybe once or twice to keep the party going on marijuana, that is when I get old enough to not get caught, since my dad can smell the stuff instantly, him bein a hardcore stoner and all. :3

Your dad sounds like an awesome man.

[CaptainDredlokk]

Your dad sounds like an awesome man.

He is an awesome man, not to brag or anything, but I sure as hell am glad to have him as a daddy! :D

[Dylan Yoshi]

Hope you meant the OP...I don't have balls... XD

... So they've already been crushed then?

[honeybear]

... So they've already been crushed then?

Spoiler Alert: I'm a girl.

[Squall722]

words

just wanted to pop in and say that this was a very good post :^:

[DarkJinjo]

Okay DarkJinjo clearly you and I need to get high together sometime. :P

Sound good to me. :D

You know, smoke could mean weed too. Never gonna do the cigs, but I really don't see anything wrong with marijuana (Even though I personally don't use the stuff; just don't see what's wrong with it).

As for me, it's a no for smoking cigs, but a maybe once or twice to keep the party going on marijuana, that is when I get old enough to not get caught, since my dad can smell the stuff instantly, him bein a hardcore stoner and all. :3

Hell yeah, my dad is a stoner, too. When I pick up weed, I get an ounce and split it with him.

I wouldn't recommend anyone take up cigarette smoking if they currently do not, but some points need to be made because the posts in this thread are smug and condescending.

Cigarette smoking tends to be higher among disadvantaged socio-economic groups. This (http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_82.pdf) article for instance highlights a higher rate of tobacco consumption among manual workers over non-manual as well as a higher chance of children from less advantaged social backgrounds taking up smoking. This trend isn't exclusive to tobacco consumption- similar increases in alcohol and narcotic dependencies can also be seen. The poor/the unhappy/the uneducated tend to make less informed health choices than the rest of us, with higher chemical substance reliance among them. So... ridicule them? Is that the best response?

Thinking semiotics, that many of you don't associate tobacco smoking with positive icons is probably a healthy sign that whatever government-shaped anti-tobacco discourse in your country is working. Which is nice. But between this thread and the "I don't drink because I take the moral high ground" some of you come across as fairly unlikeable individuals. Try to understand why people might make different decisions to those you make yourself before concluding that they're inferior :)

Holy shit, you're a genius.

[Korra]

I have tried smoking but I just have to look around at all the smokers and how they look and how they smell its just gross. Its not my preferred personal choice and both my parents would kill me if they ever knew that I did smoke...which I dont.

[login66]

I smoke weed every day. Literally everyday. Everyday. Multiple times every day.

And cigarettes, about half a pack a day.

But you guys know this.

This. I smoke weed nearly every day, every other hour or whenever my high goes down. And depends on the type of day I'm having for cigarettes, usually about half a pack.

[DarkJinjo]

This. I smoke weed nearly every day, every other hour or whenever my high goes down. And depends on the type of day I'm having for cigarettes, usually about half a pack.

^You're my new best friend

[Kaz da Breegull]

Hell, the first time I got high it was with my mother. :D Nowadays I usually get high with her or one of her friends, whoever has access to weed that day.

[StarFox]

You guys are lucky. My mom would smell it and punish me if I smoked.

[NeoGC]

Nope. Don't smoke. NEXT QUESTION PLEASE!

[DarkJinjo]

When I was younger, before I started smoking, both my mother and father smoked weed all the time. My mom quit when she got pregnant with me and has never again smoked to this day.

I go through a half ounce in about three days. I smoke blunts though, not joints, so that's probably why. But I do sometimes use Big Mary (my bong) and Lil' Jane (my bowl).

[Breegullbeak]

nope.avi

[Razor Cloud]

No...never. Never will. Always hated it, and always will.

[Guitar]

Smoke's unattractive.

And ruins performance.


:smug:

[J@mie]

Smoke's unattractive.

And ruins performance.


:smug:

Only when you're sucking...wanna tell us something?

[BobbyTheCat]

You guys are lucky. My mom would smell it and punish me if I smoked.

I'd say lucky is the wrong choice here but that's just me

[Y-Kaz]

I love the smell of smoke, seriously. But I don't feel like smoking anyday

[CaptainDredlokk]

Hell yeah, my dad is a stoner, too. When I pick up weed, I get an ounce and split it with him.

I mean, knowing my dad, if I actually went out to stone with him, he'd probly be like "Welcome to the family!", but, he wants me to stay outta trouble and everything until I pass highschool, get a college degree, ect. I'm sure that after I get outta highschool, and get a degree and everything, he wouldn't mind smoking with me.

[Keegan]

I hate both the smell of cigarette smoke and marijuana smoke.

[Pies]

I am not a smoker, not touched a cigarette in my life, but I have inhaled a lot of 2nd hand smoke in my days so my lungs are probably already messed up anyway.

[Avarice]

People think I'm a smoker because of how hard and long I cough.

I don't smoke though.

[login66]

When I was younger, before I started smoking, both my mother and father smoked weed all the time. My mom quit when she got pregnant with me and has never again smoked to this day.

I go through a half ounce in about three days. I smoke blunts though, not joints, so that's probably why. But I do sometimes use Big Mary (my bong) and Lil' Jane (my bowl).

Ah this. I never ever carry a pipe on me, even though I have a really nice one and a pretty nice bong. I can't be driving around with a pipe on me, so I preroll blunts for the next day. I drive around a lot so it's worth it.

[Smouvy]

No I don't smoke. I used to be completely allergic to that stuff in such ways that I indirectly forced my dad to quit as a child. I would never ever smoke anything, except maybe only if my life depended on it. However, I find it very hard to imagine a life and death situation where the only way to keep on living would be by smoking.

[Walrus]

I smoke an average of a pack a day, although this can sometimes be as high as 3 packs in a day, or as little as half a pack. I also smoke cannabis 4-7 days per week (depends on if I have enough money).

[Keegan]

I'm hope you're financially stable.

[Al K. Holic]

I smoke an average of a pack a day, although this can sometimes be as high as 3 packs in a day, or as little as half a pack. I also smoke cannabis 4-7 days per week (depends on if I have enough money).

Holy crap dude. That's...a little much.

I am not a smoker, not touched a cigarette in my life, but I have inhaled a lot of 2nd hand smoke in my days so my lungs are probably already messed up anyway.

This would probably describe me too.

[Gruntling]

I smoke an average of a pack a day, although this can sometimes be as high as 3 packs in a day, or as little as half a pack.

Are you serious? I feel terrible for you... :-/

You are walking proof that cigarettes are addictive. Health risks aside, how can you afford that anyway? Cigarette cartons can be pretty pricey.

[Rock]

You are walking proof that cigarettes are addictive.

Lol, not wasting words are you Gruntling :p

[Gruntling]

Okay, the condescending moralising is getting a bit much. See the thread about burgers- if I went in there and posted "wow those things are really fatty and disgusting, I pity those who eat such filth" it would understandably not be appreciated. Some of you are coming back for more every time somebody posts.

My dad probably smokes about three packs a day. It's really horrible because it does have a tremendous impact on your health. I know, because I've witnessed it firsthand. Even if they don't have health issues, you get wrinkles and yellow teeth easier. I feel bad for anyone in that position, especially when you're young, because when you're smoking that much you've got to know it's more than just a casual habit.

Likewise, I have an aunt who I love very much, and she's obese. Despite losing 50-60 lbs. on four different occasions, she's always gained the weight back. It's very disheartening when you try to tell her to eat better and she doesn't. When you don't shape up, you become aware something bad is likely going to happen somewhere down the line and that's worrying (smoking or diet). So I do pity those who can't break vices.

I don't mean to sound condescending, and heck, I don't even know Walrus that well to know to say anything about him, but I hope everyone takes care of their health. You only get one body, so try to treat it right when you can.

[J@mie]

My dad probably smokes about three packs a day. It's really horrible because it does have a tremendous impact on your health. I know, because I've witnessed it firsthand. Even if they don't have health issues, you get wrinkles and yellow teeth easier. I feel bad for anyone in that position, especially when you're young, because when you're smoking that much you've got to know it's more than just a casual habit.

Likewise, I have an aunt who I love very much, and she's obese. Despite losing 50-60 lbs. on four different occasions, she's always gained the weight back. It's very disheartening when you try to tell her to eat better and she doesn't. When you don't shape up, you become aware something bad is likely going to happen somewhere down the line and that's worrying (smoking or diet). So I do pity those who can't break vices.

I don't mean to sound condescending, and heck, I don't even know Walrus that well to know to say anything about him, but I hope everyone takes care of their health. You only get one body, so try to treat it right when you can.
You have to understand not everyone has the same view as yours that you only have one body so treat it well. Alot of people think with the mind of you only live once make the most of it.

[Kaz da Breegull]

My dad probably smokes about three packs a day. It's really horrible because it does have a tremendous impact on your health. I know, because I've witnessed it firsthand. Even if they don't have health issues, you get wrinkles and yellow teeth easier. I feel bad for anyone in that position, especially when you're young, because when you're smoking that much you've got to know it's more than just a casual habit.

Likewise, I have an aunt who I love very much, and she's obese. Despite losing 50-60 lbs. on four different occasions, she's always gained the weight back. It's very disheartening when you try to tell her to eat better and she doesn't. When you don't shape up, you become aware something bad is likely going to happen somewhere down the line and that's worrying (smoking or diet). So I do pity those who can't break vices.

I don't mean to sound condescending, and heck, I don't even know Walrus that well to know to say anything about him, but I hope everyone takes care of their health. You only get one body, so try to treat it right when you can.

Eat right, exercise, avoid drugs... die anyway. :)

Not everyone lives by your standards and they don't have to.

[Gruntling]

Eat right, exercise, avoid drugs... die anyway. :)

Not everyone lives by your standards and they don't have to.

Well, don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying people shouldn't have cigarettes or eat hamburgers. :P Go for it if it makes you happy. It's just that when it's excessive (and I know that's a subjective term), you should consider how that might affect others around you emotionally and physically.

[Al K. Holic]

Well, don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying people shouldn't have cigarettes or eat hamburgers. :P Go for it if it makes you happy. It's just that when it's excessive (and I know that's a subjective term), you should consider how that might affect others around you emotionally and physically.

It's very hard to avoid being around smokers when both your parents ARE (or was, in the case of my father), smokers.

[sheikhylian]

No. I think that if you smoke it is because you think you want something or you think you need something, like something's missing. It is not who you are. You are already what you are before thinking that smoking will make you feel better. Even people who wants to feel bad lie to themselves. Or, if it is just lazyness then just be aware of your lazyness, it won't stop you anymore. You will see that all was just illusion. As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible.

[J@mie]

No. I think that if you smoke it is because you think you want something or you think you need something, like something's missing. It is not who you are. You are already what you are before thinking that smoking will make you feel better. Even people who wants to feel bad lie to themselves. Or, if it is just lazyness then just be aware of your lazyness, it won't stop you anymore. You will see that all was just illusion. As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible.

What the hell you talkin about?

[Adam]

No. I think that if you smoke it is because you think you want something or you think you need something, like something's missing. It is not who you are. You are already what you are before thinking that smoking will make you feel better. Even people who wants to feel bad lie to themselves. Or, if it is just lazyness then just be aware of your lazyness, it won't stop you anymore. You will see that all was just illusion. As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible.

What.

[Smouvy]

No. I think that if you smoke it is because you think you want something or you think you need something, like something's missing. It is not who you are. You are already what you are before thinking that smoking will make you feel better. Even people who wants to feel bad lie to themselves. Or, if it is just lazyness then just be aware of your lazyness, it won't stop you anymore. You will see that all was just illusion. As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible.

My understanding of that post:

No, I do not smoke. I think that people who smoke do this because they feel like they are missing something which smoking gives them. However, smoking doesn't change that feeling you think you're missing. It doesn't change who you are. You are what you are, and all smoking does if giving you the illusion that you obtain that missing something you were looking for. People who want to feel that something are lying to themselves by smoking, either that or they're just to lazy to quit. Only when you quit you will see that this missing feeling crap was just an illusion.

As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible. ~ Sheikhylian

[J@mie]

My understanding of that post:

No, I do not smoke. I think that people who smoke do this because they feel like they are missing something which smoking gives them. However, smoking doesn't change that feeling you think you're missing. It doesn't change who you are. You are what you are, and all smoking does if giving you the illusion that you obtain that missing something you were looking for. People who want to feel that something are lying to themselves by smoking, either that or they're just to lazy to quit. Only when you quit you will see that this missing feeling crap was just an illusion.

As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible. ~ Sheikhylian

[To Sheik not Smouv]

Or they just like it? XD It's like saying someone who plays Xbox is doing it because they are filling a void - they just enjoy it.

[DarkJinjo]

No. I think that if you smoke it is because you think you want something or you think you need something, like something's missing. It is not who you are. You are already what you are before thinking that smoking will make you feel better. Even people who wants to feel bad lie to themselves. Or, if it is just lazyness then just be aware of your lazyness, it won't stop you anymore. You will see that all was just illusion. As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible.

Dude as a stoner I totally get that.

deep

[1UP]

[To Sheik not Smouv]

Or they just like it? XD It's like saying someone who plays Xbox is doing it because they are filling a void - they just enjoy it.

I wasn't aware of how fun it was to stand outside in subzero temperatures with wind and snow so I could inhale something that kills my lungs.

[sheikhylian]

My understanding of that post:

No, I do not smoke. I think that people who smoke do this because they feel like they are missing something which smoking gives them. However, smoking doesn't change that feeling you think you're missing. It doesn't change who you are. You are what you are, and all smoking does if giving you the illusion that you obtain that missing something you were looking for. People who want to feel that something are lying to themselves by smoking, either that or they're just to lazy to quit. Only when you quit you will see that this missing feeling crap was just an illusion.

As long as you want power you can't have it, the minute you don't want power you'll have more than your ever dreamed possible. ~ Sheikhylian

That's what I meant. Thanks xD I always have a hard time writing what's on my mind...

[1UP]

Wind, snow and subzero temperatures are fairly atypical conditions for doing most things for the majority of us ;)

That's because the majority of people don't smoke and as a result don't get sent outside in public settings to have to smoke.

People don't simply smoke just because they like it. They think they need it. If they had control over it they wouldn't have to stop what they're doing to go do it.

Whenever I see a smoker have to step out of a building to smoke, they never seem happy. They look miserable and/or nervous.

If the law passes that makes it mandatory to have cigarette boxes 80% covered with graphic depictions of what cigarettes do to the body, I can't even imagine how miserable they will look then. Seriously, no one wants to look at some bloody and decaying mouth.

[DarkJinjo]

That's because the majority of people don't smoke and as a result don't get sent outside in public settings to have to smoke.

People don't simply smoke just because they like it. They think they need it. If they had control over it they wouldn't have to stop what they're doing to go do it.

Whenever I see a smoker have to step out of a building to smoke, they never seem happy. They look miserable and/or nervous.

If the law passes that makes it mandatory to have cigarette boxes 80% covered with graphic depictions of what cigarettes do to the body, I can't even imagine how miserable they will look then. Seriously, no one wants to look at some bloody and decaying mouth.

Wow, I don't even know what to say to this, besides you have no idea what you're talking about. I don't need to smoke to live and breathe and see and hear. I enjoy getting high and I enjoy smoking cigarettes. I know more people that do smoke than people that don't. I don't feel like an outcast and I'm sure other smokers don't either, because we are not outcasts. If you want to get statistical, why don't you go look up how many smokers are in America alone?

Just because I choose to go outside and smoke, which I really don't even do besides when I'm at work (and I'm certainly not miserable on my damn break), that doesn't mean I'm an outcast. That's like saying anyone who goes into a bar are miserable and are outcasts, seeing as how drinking is restricted to the bar and they're in there harming themselves.

[1UP]

Wow, I don't even know what to say to this, besides you have no idea what you're talking about. I don't need to smoke to live and breathe and see and hear. I enjoy getting high and I enjoy smoking cigarettes. I know more people that do smoke than people that don't. I don't feel like an outcast and I'm sure other smokers don't either, because we are not outcasts. If you want to get statistical, why don't you go look up how many smokers are in America alone?

Just because I choose to go outside and smoke, which I really don't even do besides when I'm at work (and I'm certainly not miserable on my damn break), that doesn't mean I'm an outcast. That's like saying everyone who goes into a bar is miserable and are outcasts, seeing as how drinking is restricted to the bar and they're in there harming themselves.

97.5% of smokers who try to quit end up failing and start smoking again. Their bodies have grown to need to smoke or else it wouldn't be so hard to quit.

Since you know more people who smoke than people who don't, you obviously hang out with more smokers and if you're all smokers of course you won't feel like an outcast.

If you look back to the first half of the 1900s, if someone went anywhere they would be offered a cigarette/cigar as common courtesy. Nowadays if you go anywhere smokers bring their own smokes and unless they are in one of the few establishments legally allowed to let you smoke in them, they have to go outside.

And since you challenged me I looked it up and in 2008 the percentage of people who smoke [in the US] ranged from 20-24% [which is a 12% drop since 2000]. So I don't know where the heck you live if all these non-smokers are so scarce.

I'd also like to know where you live if drinking is restricted to bars. As far as I know you can drink anywhere aside from cars and schools and such.

[sheikhylian]

[To Sheik not Smouv]

Or they just like it? XD It's like saying someone who plays Xbox is doing it because they are filling a void - they just enjoy it.

It is the same yes. If you'd go deeper you could see that even that is something you don't need. Same illusion. This one is harder to get rid off of course I myself can't stop playing games...for the moment...because it FEELS like there's a lot of suffering in the lack of possibility to play video games. You didn't mind not having fun when you were born. Emptiness was enough. The mind creates that fake happiness and your true self is not your mind. The mind is a mirror. Break the mirror. Then the real happiness comes by itself.

[Walrus]

Are you serious? I feel terrible for you... :-/

You are walking proof that cigarettes are addictive. Health risks aside, how can you afford that anyway? Cigarette cartons can be pretty pricey.

To be completely honest, I realize now that I'm predisposed to addictive habits (it runs in my family). That realization causes me to cut back significantly whenever it comes to mind, but then recedes and I smoke more. My biggest problem with smoking is that I enjoy it. A lot.

I've talked to someone who smoked for many decades and quit cold turkey and said it was easy. I also know person(s) who only smoked for about two years and could not quit. Your mileage may vary. (It depends on your personality.)

The price isn't so bad—especially in rural areas—I'm told that in the American south, prices go as low as $3.20 in Winston-Salem, NC (where RJ Reynolds is located). But I pay about $55 for a carton or $6 a pack.

TLDR: I know it's bad for me but I do it anyway.

[DarkJinjo]

97.5% of smokers who try to quit end up failing and start smoking again. Their bodies have grown to need to smoke or else it wouldn't be so hard to quit.

Yes, it's hard to quit, but it is humanly possible. I don't need to smoke, I enjoy it and I very well may be adicted to it, but I don't need it to live.

Since you know more people who smoke than people who don't, you obviously hang out with more smokers and if you're all smokers of course you won't feel like an outcast.

Yes, I hang out with only smokers but that doesn't mean I don't see other smokers around. We are everywhere and we are not outcasts just because you say so.

If you look back to the first half of the 1900s, if someone went anywhere they would be offered a cigarette/cigar as common courtesy. Nowadays if you go anywhere smokers bring their own smokes and unless they are in one of the few establishments legally allowed to let you smoke in them, they have to go outside.

So, what's you're point? We willingly go outside because we want to.

And since you challenged me I looked it up and in 2008 the percentage of people who smoke [in the US] ranged from 20-24% [which is a 12% drop since 2000]. So I don't know where the heck you live if all these non-smokers are so scarce.

20-24% of the US population would not constitute as outcasts. Perhaps the word you're looking for is minority?

I'd also like to know where you live if drinking is restricted to bars. As far as I know you can drink anywhere aside from cars and schools and such.

You can't walk into a working environment and drink just like I can't walk into one and smoke. You can't walk into a pharmacy with a 40oz of Budweiser just how I can't walk in with a lit blunt. Drinker are restricted to the bar and their home, almost like smokers except we aren't so limited. I can smoke walking down the street and I can smoke while driving. You can't drink and drive, and the only place that supports public drinking is Las Vegas IIRC.

So yeah, drinking is restricted to bars and your home or another inside gathering place. Therefore, by your logic, people who drink are outcasts.

[Sajextryus]

I don't smoke.
I have been tempted by a lot of people, even my old friends.
I never really cared about getting high, pretty much since I find many other interesting and unusual ways to occupy my time, and it didn't sound that enticing to me. I also didn't want to get addicted, and it would upset my parents. I also have a lot of friends who don't smoke.
Also, I have a good sense of smell, and whenever I smell someone smoking weed, I almost wanna puke. Though, cigarette smoke doesn't make me want to puke, but I probably won't smoke cigarettes, either.

[DarkJinjo]

The price isn't so bad—especially in rural areas—I'm told that in the American south, prices go as low as $3.20 in Winston-Salem, NC (where RJ Reynolds is located). But I pay about $55 for a carton or $6 a pack.

I'd go as far as calling you lucky. Most cigarettes here in Massachusetts are well over 7 dollars a pack, and my personal preference (Newports) are over 8 dollars a pack.

[1UP]

Yes, it's hard to quit, but it is humanly possible. I don't need to smoke, I enjoy it and I very well may be adicted to it, but I don't need it to live.

Actually, some studies have shown that if someone has been smoking for a long time and then quit, it can cause adverse effects to their bodies.

Yes, I hang out with only smokers but that doesn't mean I don't see other smokers around. We are everywhere and we are not outcasts just because you say so.

Compared to the people who don't smoke, smokers are few and far between.

So, what's you're point? We willingly go outside because we want to.

Oh, so all the smokers I've seen outside the entrance to Target willingly chose to go outside to smoke and not because they aren't allowed to smoke inside?

20-24% of the US population would not constitute as outcasts. Perhaps the word you're looking for is minority?

It is now that you notice that prior to this sentence I have yet to use the word "outcast" in this thread. I have no idea why you think I said that.


You can't walk into a working environment and drink just like I can't walk into one and smoke. You can't walk into a pharmacy with a 40oz of Budweiser just how I can't walk in with a lit blunt. Drinker are restricted to the bar and their home, almost like smokers except we aren't so limited. I can smoke walking down the street and I can smoke while driving. You can't drink and drive, and the only place that supports public drinking is Las Vegas IIRC.

Yes you can walk into a pharmacy and drink. Heck, you could buy a bottle of beer in the pharmacy and open it up at the counter and start having it while you wait for the clerk to go fetch your cigarettes.

Also, you can drink in a working environment depending on the job, but the same applies to smoking.


So yeah, drinking is restricted to bars and you're home or other inside gathering place. Therefore, by your logic, people who drink are outcasts.

Inside gathering place? Street vendors sell beer that you can enjoy on your way someplace. You can drink at more public parks than you can smoke. I can go to a professional sports game and drink wherever the hell I want, but smokers are restricted to certain areas and some arenas don't even have designated smoking areas.

You can also drink on a plane, but you can't smoke.
You can drink in any restaurant, but you can't smoke in every one.
You can advertise alcoholic beverages on TV, you can't advertise smokes on TV.

The restrictions set on drinkers are nowhere near the restrictions set on smokers.

Also, despite the population growing every year, the consumption of cigarettes has gone down every year for the past few decades. Since the average amount of cigarettes smoked per smoker hasn't changed much, that means that there are less and less smokers each year.

[DarkJinjo]

Actually, some studies have shown that if someone has been smoking for a long time and then quit, it can cause adverse effects to their bodies.

Good to know, I guess.

Compared to the people who don't smoke, smokers are few and far between.

Few compared to people who don't smoke? Yes. Few in numbers? No.

Oh, so all the smokers I've seen outside the entrance to Target willingly chose to go outside to smoke and not because they aren't allowed to smoke inside?

Many people don't like to be around smokers so we aren't allowed to do so inside, you're right about that, so we willingly choose to kindly excuse ourselves to outside of the building.

It is now that you notice that prior to this sentence I have yet to use the word "outcast" in this thread. I have no idea why you think I said that.

*checks* lol oh shit, you're right.

Yes you can walk into a pharmacy and drink. Heck, you could buy a bottle of beer in the pharmacy and open it up at the counter and start having it while you wait for the clerk to go fetch your cigarettes.

What the hell? No you can't you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. There's a little thing called public intoxication and it's a crime in most states.

Also, you can drink in a working environment depending on the job, but the same applies to smoking.

Indeed.

Inside gathering place? Street vendors sell beer that you can enjoy on your way someplace.

I've never heard of this in America, at least.

You can drink at more public parks than you can smoke.

No, you can't sit in public and get drunk, it's illegal. You know what's not illegal? Smoking in public areas.

I can go to a professional sports game and drink wherever the hell I want, but smokers are restricted to certain areas and some arenas don't even have designated smoking areas.

Yes, that is an environment in which it is legal to drink and be drunk. Wanna smoke? Go outside. Don't worry, we'll kindly excuse ourselves.

You can also drink on a plane, but you can't smoke.
You can drink in any restaurant, but you can't smoke in every one.
You can advertise alcoholic beverages on TV, you can't advertise smokes on TV.

Got me there, buddy.

The restrictions set on drinkers are nowhere near the restrictions set on smokers.

Public intoxication and DUI beg to differ. All we have to do is willingly excuse ourselves for a few minutes, drinkers flat out can't do things while or after drinking and will be penalized for doing so.

Also, despite the population growing every year, the consumption of cigarettes has gone down every year for the past few decades. Since the average amount of cigarettes smoked per smoker hasn't changed much, that means that there are less and less smokers each year.

Uh, where is your source on that one? Not that I don't believe you, it's just hard to believe going by all the smokers I see and hear about.

[1UP]

You seem to be confusing drinking with getting drunk. Public intoxication is being drunk in public. Cracking open a beer and walking around Kmart won't get you in trouble unless it so happens to be your ninth beer and and you are clearly not yourself anymore.

Maybe this would be comparable if every time a smoker stepped out they had 4 or 5 cigarettes but my experiences tell me most don't smoke that much.

And the best source I could find to back up my claim was this:
CIGARETTES CONSUMED IN THE UNITED STATES The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) estimates that the following number of cigarettes were consumed in the U.S.:

1993 - 485,000,000,000
1994 - 486,000,000,000
1995 - 487,000,000,000
1996 - 487,000,000,000
1997 - 480,000,000,000
1998 - 465,000,000,000
1999 - 435,000,000,000
2000 - 430,000,000,000
2001 - 425,000,000,000
2002 - 415,000,000,000
2003 - 400,000,000,000
2004 - 388,000,000,000
2005 - 376,000,000,000
2006 - 372,000,000,000
2007 - 360,000,000,000 (Estimate by USDA)
Source: Tobacco Outlook Report, Economic Research Service, U.S. Dept. of Agriculture.

The USDA estimates that consumption in the U.S. is decreasing due to the cumulative effects of higher prices, higher State taxes, restrictions on smoking, and increased awareness of links between smoking and disease.

It doesn't go as far back I know it does go, but I don't feel like scouring the internet for more.

http://www.longwood.edu/cleanva/cigbutthowmany.htm

EDIT: All the zeros might make it not seem like a huge drop, but between 1993 and 2007 there was a consumption drop of 125 BILLION.

[Gruntling]

To be completely honest, I realize now that I'm predisposed to addictive habits (it runs in my family). That realization causes me to cut back significantly whenever it comes to mind, but then recedes and I smoke more. My biggest problem with smoking is that I enjoy it. A lot.

I've talked to someone who smoked for many decades and quit cold turkey and said it was easy. I also know person(s) who only smoked for about two years and could not quit. Your mileage may vary. (It depends on your personality.)

The price isn't so bad—especially in rural areas—I'm told that in the American south, prices go as low as $3.20 in Winston-Salem, NC (where RJ Reynolds is located). But I pay about $55 for a carton or $6 a pack.

TLDR: I know it's bad for me but I do it anyway.

I don't think you need to go cold turkey or anything like that. A few smokes a day is fine I think -- just not 3 packs. I'm sure you know this though. Just take care of yourself! :P

You seem to be confusing drinking with getting drunk. Public intoxication is being drunk in public. Cracking open a beer and walking around Kmart won't get you in trouble unless it so happens to be your ninth beer and and you are clearly not yourself anymore.

I don't know anywhere besides bars, clubs, restaurants, and casinos that allow open alcohol containers. Kmart is probably not a place you should be drinking. The store has a right to kick you out if they want.

[Y-Kaz]

I don't smoke.
I have been tempted by a lot of people, even my old friends.
I never really cared about getting high, pretty much since I find many other interesting and unusual ways to occupy my time, and it didn't sound that enticing to me. I also didn't want to get addicted, and it would upset my parents. I also have a lot of friends who don't smoke.
Also, I have a good sense of smell, and whenever I smell someone smoking weed, I almost wanna puke. Though, cigarette smoke doesn't make me want to puke, but I probably won't smoke cigarettes, either.

It takes a long time to get addicted. If you smoke one every month it's ok. Some of my friends smoke like crazy, they offer me cigs, but I don't feel like smoking either. There are so many things I haven't tried to do yet, and smoking will be the last.

[Adam]

Why don't you guys just get E-cigs? No carcinogens, no second hand smoke (that means you can do it in public areas), adjustable nicotine levels so you can go for a light or heavy buzz, plus, it costs less in the long run. Not only that, but they're bad ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette

[DarkJinjo]

I don't know anywhere besides bars, clubs, restaurants, and casinos that allow open alcohol containers. Kmart is probably not a place you should be drinking. The store has a right to kick you out if they want.

Exactly why I'm done talking to 1UP because he fails to see this. You can't drink in stores, it doesn't matter if you aren't drunk yet. If a cop saw you drinking a bottle of vodka in CVS he would instantly arrest you for public intoxication.

Also, if you weren't implying that smokers are generally social outcasts, then what were you implying when you said that you always see sad smokers outside and how the number of smokers in America is decreasing? Were you implying that smoking is bad for you? No shit.

Truth of the matter is, smoking is restricted in most inside places, while drinking is restricted in many outside (and inside) locations.

Why don't you guys just get E-cigs? No carcinogens, no second hand smoke (that means you can do it in public areas), adjustable nicotine levels so you can go for a light or heavy buzz, plus, it costs less in the long run. Not only that, but they're bad ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette

Yeah, I've always wanted one but I don't know where to buy them, besides online of course. My mother would flip if she saw a package titled electric cigarette on the front steps. :p

[King Gobi]

I do not understand why people who don't smoke want people to quit. I mean if you don't like it go to places where there are no smokers Its there decision after all. But what really annoys me is people who have never smoked that say Its easy to quit lets just make it harder for them to do so.
I do not smoke.
My mum however does.
And you guys are lucky the new Zealand government is close to banning smoking after they raised the price to 25 nzd heck they went so far as banning smoking advertisements all together.

[Rock]

Actually, the nicotine addiction wears off extremely quickly. Most of the cravings etc. are simply there due to habit, nothing to do with nicotine or the actual chemicals. It's just the habit that makes it hardest to quit. Or, so I've heard.

If you realize how much money you are wasting and how much money the government are sucking out of you, you will soon realize why it's a good idea to quit.

I do not understand why people who don't smoke want people to quit. I mean if you don't like it go to places where there are no smokers Its there decision after all. But what really annoys me is people who have never smoked that say Its easy to quit lets just make it harder for them to do so.

Why do people who don't smoke want people to quit? Because it's a habit that takes all your money and kills you. And 'go to places where there are no smokers'? Why should people not be able to go to their local shopping centre or whatever just because other people have a smoking habit? (To be honest I'm not sure what you're talking about, I don't know a single person who wouldn't go to a street or something just because there was a guy smoking there.)

As for wanting people to quit, these are not my views. To be honest I couldn't care less whether you smoked or whether you didn't, whatever makes you happy. I'm merely echoing arguments I've heard said before, so don't try to turn it round and address me personally. I'm just presenting other viewpoints. ;)

[1UP]

Exactly why I'm done talking to 1UP because he fails to see this. You can't drink in stores, it doesn't matter if you aren't drunk yet. If a cop saw you drinking a bottle of vodka in CVS he would instantly arrest you for public intoxication.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/p/public-intoxication/

If a cop were to arrest you for drinking vodka in CVS you could ask to see the store's video recordings and show that you weren't acting disruptively. [unless you really were] If he arrests you anyway you could take it to court.


Also, if you weren't implying that smokers are generally social outcasts, then what were you implying when you said that you always see sad smokers outside and how the number of smokers in America is decreasing? Were you implying that smoking is bad for you? No shit.


I was responding to the initial claim that smokers smoke because they like to and I simply pointed out that they never seemed particularly happy or relaxed.

[Gruntling]

I do not understand why people who don't smoke want people to quit. I mean if you don't like it go to places where there are no smokers Its there decision after all. But what really annoys me is people who have never smoked that say Its easy to quit lets just make it harder for them to do so.
I do not smoke.
My mum however does.

I've never smoked in my live, but my mom and dad both do regularly. I want them to quit, so they'll be healthier and possibly live longer. That's the main reason. If anything else it's expensive for both of them, so that should be reason enough alone. My mom always smokes inside our house too. Which is annoying because it smells bad, stinks up clothes, and I might be also getting affected to some extent from secondhand smoke. (My dad has his own place and always smokes outside.)

http://definitions.uslegal.com/p/public-intoxication/

If a cop were to arrest you for drinking vodka in CVS you could ask to see the store's video recordings and show that you weren't acting disruptively. [unless you really were] If he arrests you anyway you could take it to court.

That article actually proves why you aren't allowed to drink in public. A cop can arrest you for even having one drink, since you are under the influence of alcohol. Haven't you ever seen somebody drink in public? They usually cover the bottle up with a bag, so you can't see what it is.

[1UP]

That article actually proves why you aren't allowed to drink in public. A cop can arrest you for even having one drink, since you are under the influence of alcohol. Haven't you ever seen somebody drink in public? They usually cover the bottle up with a bag, so you can't see what it is.
The intoxication covers all sorts of drugs. If you could get arrested for having a beer in public that means you could also get arrested for being on prescription medication in public.

"Under the influence of alcohol" means that you are drunk and that your behavior has changed from the norm.

And I've never actually seen people cover their alcoholic beverages with a paper bag and it would be a cruddy cover up anyway because if the cops had any suspicion that you were doing something illegal they'd have the right to see what's in the bag. But drinking isn't illegal, so it doesn't matter anyway.

[Gruntling]

The intoxication covers all sorts of drugs. If you could get arrested for having a beer in public that means you could also get arrested for being on prescription medication in public.

Under the influence of alcohol" means that you are drunk and that your behavior has changed from the norm.

And I've never actually seen people cover their alcoholic beverages with a paper bag and it would be a cruddy cover up anyway because if the cops had any suspicion that you were doing something illegal they'd have the right to see what's in the bag. But drinking isn't illegal, so it doesn't matter anyway.

If you look impaired, that's actually possible that officer can arrest you for prescription medication. But the key difference here is if you are holding an open beer in your hand. You don't even have to be drunk (or even drinking necessarily!). You can't have an open container in most undesignated places.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_open_container_laws

[J@mie]

@1UP: Are you basically trying to tell a smoker that he doesn't smoke because he likes it? Cause I think he knows whether or not he likes it. As for the standing outside stuff, if they made it illegal to drink Pepsi inside, I would glady go outside to drink it. I'm not addicted, I'd do it because I like it.

[1UP]

If you look impaired, that's actually possible that officer can arrest you for prescription medication. But the key difference here is if you are holding an open beer in your hand. You don't even have to be drunk (or even drinking necessarily!). You can't have an open container in most undesignated places.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_open_container_laws

That page gives it the law the appearance that most states ban having an open alcoholic beverage in public. For instance, Michigan bans all open containers of alcohol that are transported by vehicle, but that is all it prohibits. I can't comment on other state laws since I do not know them as well as Michigan, but that page makes it sounds like someone can get ticketed/arrested for having one in public.

They sell beer at the snack bar for the county little league games for as long as I can remember and there's been quite a few cops there either as parents or to do the national anthem or because they already had to patrol the area the games were at.

I once saw two guys sitting on the trunk of their car with a couple of beers and a cop waited around for them to get into the car first because that's how he needed to ticket them.

At best the laws have no backing to begin with.

@1UP: Are you basically trying to tell a smoker that he doesn't smoke because he likes it? Cause I think he knows whether or not he likes it. As for the standing outside stuff, if they made it illegal to drink Pepsi inside, I would glady go outside to drink it. I'm not addicted, I'd do it because I like it.

I'm saying the fact that they smoke isn't solely because they like it. As I pointed out, people who try to quit smoking have a 97.5% failure rate.

If you aren't addicted to Pepsi you should have no problem not drinking it for a few months. It's called willpower. Anyone with any sort of half decent self control should be able to go without Pepsi if for some reason they needed to. Quitting smoking is a lot different from quitting Pepsi. I mean, I sure do love Baked Lays, they're probably my favorite snack, but I don't think I've had them since last spring and it hasn't affected me in the slightest. If they suddenly discontinued Baked Lays and I could never have them again I'd be disappointed but it wouldn't change my life.

There's all these clinics and patches and pills and alternatives developed for smokers to help them quit because it's freakin' difficult. They don't just do this for smoking though, they have this stuff for pretty much any sort of drugs.

[Puck]

i smoke n00bs on poklamanz. But no I don't because I have asthma and it reminds me of my dad. and my dad sucks...

[J@mie]

1Up you seem to be missing something here. not everyone wants to quit

[DarkJinjo]

But drinking isn't illegal, so it doesn't matter anyway.

It is illegal to be drunk in public, therefore if a cop saw you walking with a bottle of vodka anywhere, that would intern lead to him stopping and thinking, "Wait-a-minnuute. This guy has a bottle of vodka in his hand, he is probably drunk". Believe it or not, a bottle of alcohol is all the probable cause a cop needs to stop you under the suspicion of public intoxication or more, and most likely make you submit to a sobriety test.

Since the argument between us here atm is whether or not drinking in public is legal, is this imaginary guy with the vodka bottle going to be sober? I think not, and as we all watch this drunk man get put in cuffs, we see a slick smoker walk by the scene, smoking his cigarette with his head held high. Glad he is not alone in the world and that he is not that drunk man being arrested.

The smoker then tosses his cig, stomps it out and proceeds to his smoke-free destination.

[Oz the Gay and Powerful]

I can't believe there's a debate about this. Smoking is stupid. It's a stupid thing to do, but we all enjoy things that aren't good for us. You don't need to justify smoking. If you try to justify it, you'll fail. Just enjoy it or care about your health or something.


ANYTHING but debating about cigarettes for the love of god.

[honeybear]

You know, its not really that big of a deal...
Its a choice individuals choose... what needs to happen is people need to learn to respect those choices.

[J@mie]

You know, its not really that big of a deal...
Its a choice individuals choose... what needs to happen is people need to learn to respect those choices.

Some people just don't they're all HURP DURP DONT SMOKE ITS BAD FOR U when smokers obv know this, and they choose to smoke so just leave them. If their smoke is annoying you tell them if they're in the wrong. or if you're standing in a smoking area then piss off into a non smoking area.

[Rock]

Forget this post, I did a noob thing and only read up to page 7. Then I posted a direct reply to it which has already been said on page 8, not realizing there were still two more pages to go...:o

[dmoss]

No, thanks; I'm allergic!

You know, its not really that big of a deal...
Its a choice individuals choose... what needs to happen is people need to learn to respect those choices.
Ah, perhaps true, but then you have the other side of the road, where you have the smokers who need to respect others' choices to not be around smoke.

[J@mie]

No, thanks; I'm allergic!


Ah, perhaps true, but then you have the other side of the road, where you have the smokers who need to respect others' choices to not be around smoke.

There are designated smoking areas where people go to smoke, they can not be around it.