Captain Hook Educational Show

[InTrepidCognito]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SlMmpvGa8Q

It's pretty funny that the Disney cartoons for toddlers are easily cooler than their other crap.

[Guitar]

I've heard about this.

Why, Disney? Why?

[Al K. Holic]

I can't wait to get educated...with Captain Hook and Mr. Smee.

[TRBB]

Nice to see an old face again.

[Dr. Worm]

Blech.

[King Gobi]

I loled

[Keegan]

Peter Pan was one of my favorite movies as a kid.

This looks so shitty.

I'm sure Walt Disney is rolling in his grave right now.

[Twi]

In b4 Smee.

Also, Captain Hook is a really creepy character.

Y'see, in most stage adaptations of Peter Pan, the same guy who plays Wendy's father, also plays Hook. Hook is also prone to hitting on Wendy...

[Solid Snix]

I've heard about this.

Why, Disney? Why?

Blech.You guys do realize this show isn't meant for you, right?

[Guitar]

When I was 5, there were shows on Playhouse Disney I cringed at, mister.

[Keegan]

You guys do realize this show isn't meant for you, right?

You realize that the point is the Disney company shouldn't be raping/milking the old Walt Disney classic movies, right?

I think that pisses me off the most.

[Solid Snix]

When I was 5, there were shows on Playhouse Disney I cringed at, mister.Good for you?

You realize that the point is the Disney company shouldn't be raping/milking the old Walt Disney classic movies, right?

I think that pisses me off the most.They aren't raping anything at all with this show. I mean, yeah, none of us are going to watch it, but it looks like your average children show. I don't see a single thing here that's any worse than Dora the Explorer.

[Mandolin]

This looks so shitty.

It's for toddlers. You're not supposed to like it.

I'm sure Walt Disney is rolling in his grave right now.

"I'm sure [blank] is rolling in his grave" is such a cliché raging fanboy line, I'd think you were being sarcastic if you weren't you.

It's pretty funny that the Disney cartoons for toddlers are easily cooler than their other crap.

I wonder if older fans would like a Captain Hook cartoon made for them.

Captain Hook is pretty cool but I don't think I'd keep up with something like that. *shrug*

[Keegan]

It's for toddlers. You're not supposed to like it.

I really liked Peter Pan and the fact that Walt's movie is being raped again (Return to Neverland) is what pisses me off the most.

"I'm sure [blank] is rolling in his grave" is such a cliché raging fanboy line, I'd think you were being sarcastic if you weren't you.

Yup it sure is said often. What's your point?

[Solid Snix]

I really liked Peter Pan and the fact that Walt's movie is being raped again (Return to Neverland) is what pisses me off the most.
No... no it's not... They put Hook in a baby show, big whoop. Cartoon characters are put in baby shows all the time, like in Baby Loony Toons and Mickey Mouse Club House.

[gscodeseeker]

No... no it's not... They put Hook in a baby show, big whoop. Cartoon characters are put in baby shows all the time, like in Baby Loony Toons and Mickey Mouse Club House.

excuse me baby looney toons was :rainbow::bowrain:ing awesome

[Keegan]

No... no it's not... They put Hook in a baby show, big whoop. Cartoon characters are put in baby shows all the time, like in Baby Loony Toons and Mickey Mouse Club House.

You can't say all the time and then use examples that were pretty recent.

Putting old cartoons into baby shows is a recent thing that's been happening, and it sucks. Why can't people just create new characters ffs.

[InTrepidCognito]

Baby-oriented shows that aren't Sesame Street are fairly new.

There ya go.

[Solid Snix]

excuse me baby looney toons was :rainbow::bowrain:ing awesomeDid I ever say anything against it?

You can't say all the time and then use examples that were pretty recent.You know what I ****ing meant.

Putting old cartoons into baby shows is a recent thing that's been happening, and it sucks.You even said it's been happening all the time right here. Why can't people just create new characters ffs.I'm not really big into cartoons, so I dunno how recent you'd consider this, but isn't Muppet Babies old? Either way, why is it so bad in this case, I mean, Hook seems to be in character enough for this to work, so it's not altering his character that's the problem. Does it just piss you off to see a character thrown into something that you can't feel dignified watching?

[Keegan]

Recent does not mean all the time.

And Muppet Babies is recent, it's from the 80's. Making "(Insert Franchise Here) Babies" started int he 80's due to lack of creativity, and it's a retarded way of going about a cartoon.

Why the hell are you arguing about this?

[Solid Snix]

Recent does not mean all the time.If it's been happening a lot for a while, it's been happening all the time!

And Muppet Babies is recent, it's from the 80's. Making "(Insert Franchise Here) Babies" started int he 80's due to lack of creativity, and it's a retarded way of going about a cartoon.If you say so, but that doesn't seem recent at all to me


Why the hell are you arguing about this?Because you're overreacting! Why is this show so bad? Explain how it's a bastardization!

[Keegan]

80's cartoons are not original cartoons. They were all made by executives who thought stupid things would be good things for kids to watch, therefore they aren't real cartoons because they aren't even made by cartoonists. The same thing is happening with this show. It is recent because it's only like 20 years ago, and cartoons have been around for like 70.

It's a bastardization because they're taking a classic Disney movie that had great animation and acting, and spat on it with a poorly animated children show that didn't even need to have Peter Pan characters in it.

bastardize - change something so that its value declines

[Solid Snix]

Firstly, do you know how many cartoons have been released between 1980 and 2011? Hundreds if not thousands. While cartoons have been around for seventy years, I'd say thirty of those years have been a long time. Hell, that's nearly half of the amount of time cartoons have been around for. Secondly, you seem to be forgetting one major thing, Banjoboy. Cartooning is a business. Big name companies usually take whatever shortcuts necessary in order to get shows out there quicker and make money faster. Is it a good thing? No, not necessarily, but it's a common thing and there's no excuse for you to flip out over this. There's nothing you can do to stop it and freaking out is just going to get on everyone's nerves. Finally, the only things you mentioned about this show being bad is that it's poorly animated and Peter Pan characters didn't need to be in it. Well, listen, children aren't going to be the only ones watching this. There's also the parents taking care of their children watching it with them. You see, those parents grew up with characters like Captain Hook and Smee, and while they'll probably hate the show, it'll do their hearts good knowing that the characters they grow up with haven't been forgotten and will probably never be forgotten. It's a pretty genius move, actually. Disney saves time making cartoons, children will be mindlessly entertained and educated, and parents end up satisfied in the long run. You wanna know why the parents aren't gonna bitch and moan about it instead, Banjoboy? They have one thing you don't have. Maturity. They know how society works, and they know that not everything can be perfect. And while this show isn't going to be the master piece Walt Disney animated, it doesn't appear to be trying to bring down that master piece. Hook seems like Hook, and Smee seems like Smee. I mean, I know they will be a bit more goofy, but remember, this show is for the younger cartoon lovers.

[Keegan]

Wow man that's deep.

Deep in shit. That made no sense at all. Genius move? They're not doing this for any reason other than too milk Walt's movie some more so they don't have to create OC.

Saying I shouldn't flip out over this is hypocritical since you are flipping out over me flipping out. I probably have a different point of view though, seeing as I'm a cartoonist myself and have studied this stuff and know executive bullshit when I see it.

Saying cartoons should be cheap and kids should be mindlessly entertained and educated is like saying books should be the same, and movies, and music.

Cartoons aren't some tool that should be used to make a quick buck, it's an art form (at least it was) and people are forgetting that.

[Dr. Worm]

Jesus, you're cynical about this, BanjoBoy.

[Keegan]

Bottom line it's unoriginal and shouldn't exist.

[Solid Snix]

Wow man that's deep.

Deep in shit. That made no sense at all. Genius move? They're not doing this for any reason other than too milk Walt's movie some more so they don't have to create OC.

Saying I shouldn't flip out over this is hypocritical since you are flipping out over me flipping out. I probably have a different point of view though, seeing as I'm a cartoonist myself and have studied this stuff and know executive bullshit when I see it.

Saying cartoons should be cheap and kids should be mindlessly entertained and educated is like saying books should be the same, and movies, and music.

Cartoons aren't some tool that should be used to make a quick buck, it's an art form (at least it was) and people are forgetting that.Oh god, where the **** do I start?

Genius move? They're not doing this for any reason other than too milk Walt's movie some more so they don't have to create OC.Which is a genius move in the world of business. They can take a ****ing existing character, save time and ****ing use it, and... I already ****ing explained it.

Saying I shouldn't flip out over this is hypocritical since you are flipping out over me flipping out.I can't argue with that. Not really much else I can say about it. I probably have a different point of view though, seeing as I'm a cartoonist myself and have studied this stuff and know executive bullshit when I see it.You don't need to study to see executive bullshit. In fact, yeah I agree, cartoons should focus on quality, but quality doesn't always make the most money the quickest. This shit is common, I don't see why this is so offensive. I coulda sworn I said this i my previous post. Guess not.

Saying cartoons should be cheap and kids should be mindlessly entertained and educated is like saying books should be the same, and movies, and music.I never said that. What I said was that the children watching this are going to watch it mindlessly. Let's face it: The age group this show is intended for don't give a shit what's on T.V. Toddlers will watch anything. If you can make a great, educational show like say, Liberty's Kids, great, you are a good company and I love you. If not, it's not gonna ****ing matter, three-year-olds don't care. Now honestly, which option do you say the big company that is today's Disney will probably pick?

Cartoons aren't some tool that should be used to make a quick buck, it's an art form (at least it was) and people are forgetting that.
This is the first statement from you I truly appreciate. I full-heartily agree with you, however, that doesn't excuse bitching about things that don't go you're way, especially if they are a common place in every-day life.

Now please, Banjoboy, please grow up and quite internet-yelling in my ****ing profile because you fail to see the point I'm trying to make.

[Keegan]

I TAKE CARTOONS SERIOUSLY JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

[Solid Snix]

I TAKE CARTOONS SERIOUSLY JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.Alright, whatever.

[Kaiser]

What was wrong with the furry kids?

It's funny how people still defend the low-budget argument for a TV cartoon when you look at Disney profits and yet (Not on this show, although it coulda been better) they are okay with it. Also paying millions on making games like epic mickey, then fail and fire a bajillion people who are paid almost as much as American animators.

Anyway, wow, this as appealing as turd with geico-eyes.

[Solid Snix]

Dude, I have no clue what you're trying to say, but no one is saying that companies just throwing shit out there is okay. What I'm saying is that it's a common-place in society and no one should be that friggen pissed off over it. Now, Banjoboy made it clear in a profile chat that the reason he's pissed off is because he wants to be an animator and is worried that companies will just force him to make stuff that he isn't interested in making, and I can understand that. I just wish he made it clearer earlier and in a calm tone so we could have prevented this whole fiasco.