New Mass Effect 3 Ending

[Madous]

See here: http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass-effect-3-extended-cut/

Noteworthy: "What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

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[Banjokun]

Let us hope that the indoctrination theory is true, otherwise Bioware would just make things worse.

[Madous]

I'm waiting for them to announce that it won't be free. So many people will be pissed.

[The Colonel]

I'm waiting for them to announce that it won't be free. So many people will be pissed.

And then I will lose any possible remaining respect for BioWare.

[dragon_kazoooie]

To me this is utter bull, I mean really? People are complaining about the end to a game...it's ridiculous.

People don't request new endings when they dislike the ending of a: Book, movie, comic, television show. It's a form of entertainment and the people making the media should have a say in how it ends. I think Bioware should have said "You don't like the ending of the thing WE created from the universe WE created, from the characters WE created, tough.." Because it's their media and they shouldn't have to change it IMHO...I will applaud them for making people pay for the new ending if that's what they end up doing....

*Not talking in an angry voice, and I love ME just as much as the next guy but come on.....*

[The Colonel]

Good news: Apparently, it's free.

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To me this is utter bull, I mean really? People are complaining about the end to a game...it's ridiculous.

People don't request new endings when they dislike the ending of a: Book, movie, comic, television show. It's a form of entertainment and the people making the media should have a say in how it ends. I think Bioware should have said "You don't like the ending of the thing WE created from the universe WE created, from the characters WE created, tough.." Because it's their media and they shouldn't have to change it IMHO...I will applaud them for making people pay for the new ending if that's what they end up doing....

*Not talking in an angry voice, and I love ME just as much as the next guy but come on.....*


The reason people want a new ending s because we were promised a story we could control, and instead got three identical endings, (Which you also just pick at the end after we were told the endings didn't work that way) which were inconsistent as hell, had tons of plot holes, and contradicted previous actions in the games, not to mention Drew Karpyshyn already had an ending which, despite not exactly being amazing either, was ACTUALLY ****ING CONSISTENT, and didn't make out the reapers to be a generic evil race of machines that kill people for no ****ing reason.

You don't complain about the ending to a book or movie because we aren't told that we can control those stories, we complain about the ending to a story-based game when we're told it's our story.

[dragon_kazoooie]

Good news: Apparently, it's free.

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The reason people want a new ending s because we were promised a story we could control, and instead got three identical endings, (Which you also just pick at the end after we were told the endings didn't work that way) which were inconsistent as hell, had tons of plot holes, and contradicted previous actions in the games, not to mention Drew Karpyshyn already had an ending which, despite not exactly being amazing either, was ACTUALLY ****ING CONSISTENT, and didn't make out the reapers to be a generic evil race of machines that kill people for no ****ing reason.

You don't complain about the ending to a book or movie because we aren't told that we can control those stories, we complain about the ending to a story-based game when we're told it's our story.

The whole point of all three games was to stop the Reapers so wouldn't it make sense if..

you stopped the Reapers? I mean if even Shepard is a total dick in all three games his main goal is still to stop the Reapers which is EXACTLY what he does

I mean what were you expecting?

Besides the Reapers don't kill for no reason, it's stated why they do what they do in the ending of the game.

I think it ties together things in a very dramatic matter, and it leaves a few things in the end for you to think about and fill in as you wish....

But again I'm not really talking about how good/bad the ending is...I just think it's lame that Bioware had to change the ending for their own product.

A lot of people didn't like the ending in Lost or the Hunger games either but you don't hear them complaining for a new one.

Everyone has a right to be mad and have their own opinions on how things should work but that doesn't mean they have the right to want something changed just cause they're pissed.... IDK just my HO.....:-/

Besides they said (Bioware) that they were done with Shepard, so of course they're going to get rid of him to make room for new content...

[The Colonel]

The whole point of all three games was to stop the Reapers so wouldn't it make sense if..

you stopped the Reapers? I mean if even Shepard is a total dick in all three games his main goal is still to stop the Reapers which is EXACTLY what he does

I mean what were you expecting?

Besides the Reapers don't kill for no reason, it's stated why they do what they do in the ending of the game.

I think it ties together things in a very dramatic matter, and it leaves a few things in the end for you to think about and fill in as you wish....

But again I'm not really talking about how good/bad the ending is...I just think it's lame that Bioware had to change the ending for their own product.

A lot of people didn't like the ending in Lost or the Hunger games either but you don't hear them complaining for a new one.

Everyone has a right to be mad and have their own opinions on how things should work but that doesn't mean they have the right to want something changed just cause they're pissed.... IDK just my HO.....:-/

Besides they said (Bioware) that they were done with Shepard, so of course they're going to get rid of him to make room for new content...

They're reason is bullshit, though. They literally exist to kill organics so that organics can't be killed by synthetics. And you stop the reapers... and destroy the mass relays resulting in everyone to basically be trapped.

Here's a post I found that sums up the original ending:

"The original ending was all about Dark Energy, which if you remember was hugely eluded to and built up as a big deal in Arrival and Haestrom (The planet in Tali's recuriment mission in ME-2)

The original motive of the Reapers was going to be that Ezeo abuse from advanced races weakens the galaxy and makes it susceptible to Dark Energy which then begins to rapidly consume and destroy everything.

The Reapers have to destroy advanced civilizations to give space recuperation time and stop the Dark Energy from spreading. The concept of the Reaper's themselves is that they were made up of millions of various being's DNA to give them genetic diversity to combat Dark Energy's effects.

However they discover that humans are incredibly genetically diverse (something else eluded to in ME2) and out of desperation as Dark Energy masses and grows near, they attempt to make human Reapers (hence the Human Reaper)

The original ending was that you had to make the choice of sacrificing humanity to be asborded by the Reapers so they could stop the spread of Dark Energy with a small army of genetically diverse human Reapers OR tell the Reapers to **** off (Probably destroy them) and put faith in the fact if all races in the galaxy know of the Dark Energy threat, they can probably find a way to counter it.

So sacrifice humanity for absolute safety? Or insist on living for possible safety?

everyone whined that it was awful so the ending changed and scrapped all this. Making the whole Dark Energy, Human Reaper, Human genetic diversity and suspicious Reaper motives completely irrelevant."

[dragon_kazoooie]

Yeah but the ending above just sounds hopeless to me...you destroy them and now the whole universe will probably die, or you keep them and your whole race dies...I bet if people got this ending they would still be pissed.

At least with the ending they chose or, tried to choose, there was space to expand and make more content. How about some DLC on the races trying desperately to get back to their planets, or some DLC on the human race repopulating on this strange new planet...there were still places to expand which is exactly what Bioware wanted to do. But people got so blind by rage that they didn't think about the new problems and conflicts that can arise from the resulting endings....But again I'm just saying that yes people have the rights to get mad and to rant, and to say the ending sucks. But I don't think that means the company should HAVE to change their endings.....

[Spudfish93]

This must be just a little embarrassing for Bioware...

[John!]

No sir. It's not a new ending. It's adding in new scenes, dialogue, and an epilogue that better explains the current shitty ending, but it doesn't change the shitty ending.

People don't request new endings when they dislike the ending of a: Book, movie, comic, television show Sherlock Holmes, one of the most iconic books of all time, had its ending changed due to fan feedback. Movies have test audiences, who watch the movie beforehand and give feedback, and the movie is then changed accordingly. Tons of movies you love have had an ending changed due to poor audience reaction.

(Spoilers below)


Besides the Reapers don't kill for no reason, it's stated why they do what they do in the ending of the game. And the reason makes no sense. They kill because organics will always create synthetics, which will then rebel and fight the organics and kill everyone and tear the galaxy apart. So we.... kill the organics... to stop the synthetics from killing the organics. And, worst of all, is that it's not even true. Even if Shepard manages to unite the Geth and the Quarians, which many players did, he still gives us this bullshit. And Shepard can't even fight back. Not even a dialogue option where he can say "But I totally did this shit to prove you wrong."

and it leaves a few things in the end for you to think about and fill in as you wish....It leaves EVERYTHING for you to think about. What is that stupid jungle planet shit? What happens to the species you just spent the entire game helping (and all the things you did? Meaningless.)? Shouldn't the mass relays have killed everybody? Think of it yourself, because Bioware can't be halfassed to tell you. This ties into another problem I'll address next

At least with the ending they chose or, tried to choose, there was space to expand and make more content. How about some DLC on the races trying desperately to get back to their planets, or some DLC on the human race repopulating on this strange new planet...there were still places to expand which is exactly what Bioware wanted to do. But people got so blind by rage that they didn't think about the new problems and conflicts that can arise from the resulting endings....But again I'm just saying that yes people have the rights to get mad and to rant, and to say the ending sucks. But I don't think that means the company should HAVE to change their endings.....Here's the problem. The reason nobody is thinking about the new problems and conflicts that can arise from the ending? Because we were told we wouldn't have to. We were told this was a definitive ending, everything was going to be summed up, there wasn't going to be an "A,B,C" style ending, there wasn't gonna be wiggle room, we would be shown the repercussions for our actions etc. They lied to us. "But companies lie all the time!" Exactly. And now companies are being forced to answer for it, instead of the consumers just bending over and taking it. We spent 60 or more dollars on this game, and we didn't expect more than we were told. We expecting to get exactly what we were told , and Bioware didn't even give us that.

[dragon_kazoooie]

Here's the problem. The reason nobody is thinking about the new problems and conflicts that can arise from the ending? Because we were told we wouldn't have to. We were told this was a definitive ending, everything was going to be summed up, there wasn't going to be an "A,B,C" style ending, there wasn't gonna be wiggle room, we would be shown the repercussions for our actions etc. They lied to us. "But companies lie all the time!" Exactly. And now companies are being forced to answer for it, instead of the consumers just bending over and taking it. We spent 60 or more dollars on this game, and we didn't expect more than we were told. We expecting to get exactly what we were told , and Bioware didn't even give us that.

Okay I'll give you all of that other stuff but Bioware is going to be making new things within the universe of Mass Effect, it's not even the ending of the game universe so I just don't understand the controversy there....Anyway...

I just honestly don't think they should change their ending because it's obviously how they wanted it and I'm sure they had a reason...

But I don't really want to fight, I guess I just don't get as riled up as everybody else does......:)

[Jackjack71]

There's 3 main things wrong with the ending of Mass Effect 3:
1) We get very little details as to what exactly happens.
2) Your choices throughout the 3 games don't even matter as to what happens in the end.
3) The ending just leaves you depressed. The mass relays are destroyed, Shepard dies (well, in most of the endings), and it looks like Joker + your 2-person crew gets stranded on an island.

Bioware is only going to improve upon the first detail I listed above. As Fan The Man said, they are not making it so that there are additional endings or changes.

So yeah, these past 24 hours have been a slap to the face for me. I finish Mass Effect 3, hate it, then figure out that Bioware is going to make a free additional ending cutscenes DLC, but then figure out that it just explains things more, and doesn't actually change the ending.

I'm not happy.

[Goku]

Someone should make a poster of the BioWare logo rubbing two, very large, sore asscheeks which represents the ME fanbase. I would pay good money for it. :D

But in all seriousness, I see good and well why ME fans are pissed about the ending. Because BioWare didn't deliver what they said they'd deliver. You can't say to a kid, "We're going to Disney World this summer," get them all happy, and then just take them to a shitty carnival instead. IT AIN'T RIGHT.

[Snagprophet]

At least it's free. I dunno if it'll make Total Biscuit like Bioware again though.

[The Colonel]

At least it's free. I dunno if it'll make Total Biscuit like Bioware again though.

Holy shit, so I'm not the only here who watches TB?

But yeah, I don't think this will make him stop boycotting EA games any time soon.

[Snagprophet]

Holy shit, so I'm not the only here who watches TB?


Yey! It's nice to know other people do :)