why does everyone think sony fans are "miguided"? [Archive]

Mystery Man

6th September 2006, 10:23 PM

Look, it's a joke. Get over it. This board was founded by Nintendo/Rare loyalists, and newcomers arriving in this generation of the console wars are bound to like or dislike one company or another. This place is probably the least fanboyish out of most boards in terms of the console wars, so be happy with you're relative peace.

KryptoniteJinjo

6th September 2006, 10:44 PM

the ps2 was the best console yet. just look at all the great games on it. people only liked xbox because of halo, which got really boring, really fast. and the gamecube games were to kiddy like. the ps2 games were perfect.

Opinions are in the air!

My opinion is that gamecube games are not "too kiddy like". Even if they were, you're proving yourself as only enjoying games if they have "mature" graphics or are Uber violent. Gameplay is what makes a game good, and it fails to amaze me that you can't see that.

As for the Xbox, Halo isn't the only good game. There are many good exclusives that brought it to life, and the graphics aren't half bad either.

Don't get me wrong, Ps2 games aren't bad, It's just that I prefer my Xbox, Gamecube, Nintendo 64( Best system ever, aside from the SNES) and DS better.

Tanjo

6th September 2006, 11:22 PM

Lets agree to disagree. We [sony fans] arent misguided, and the gcn isnt kiddy.

Avarice

6th September 2006, 11:46 PM

Lets agree to disagree. We [sony fans] arent misguided, and the gcn isnt kiddy.

Agreed. I myself, have been a fan of all 3 systems.

LoZ Hero

6th September 2006, 11:56 PM

I almost died when I read that post!
Choked one my coke when I ran across the word "perfect"

Let me break down this "Fanboy" thing for you...
As of right now we have four types of "Fanboy."
First off
Nintendo Fanboy (Misguided)
These are the mostly small children that have an obbsession with the plump plumber. Often getting in fights at school over the issue.

Retro Ninty Fanboy (Evangilist)
These are the ones that have been with Nintendo the longest. They are the most loyal of the Fanboys and can prove why Nintendo deserves their choice.

XBox Fanboy (Bully)
These are the ones that see MSoft as the "mature" way to go. They see all others as immature and are quick to Flame or Troll anyone with a different opinion. These are in actuallity the most Immature of the Fanboys.

And finally
Sony Fanboy (Fanatics - the bad kind)
Sony Fanboys are quick to use the words "perfect" and "best" in there posts. They like to clamour on about how great Sony is and they don't like to back up what they say. I've met several Sony Fanboys that were so thickheaded and violent I truly wanted to vomit. Sony fanboys aren't Misguided but they are the most Hardcore out there.

Sony had the best selling system and won the last Console war. That doesn't mean a thing. I honestly can't stand the thing. Lots of games. Nothing I'm truly interested in (aside from the Jak and Daxter series).

And to be completly honest.
Games have not been perfect since the SNES era. They've been going down the poop shoot for a long time.

Hakey Wake

6th September 2006, 11:59 PM

the ps2 was the best console yet.

No, tech-wise it's completely underpowered when compared to the standards set by the competition (well...unless you like load times?), they are notorious for DRE's (and sometimes just flat out breaking down) coupled with the Dual-Shock being the worst controller for the second gen running. (IMO of course)

just look at all the great games on it.

You could say that about almost any system ever created, I personally own a helluva lot more GCN titles than I do PS2.

people only liked xbox because of halo, which got really boring, really fast.

Yes it couldn't possible be due to the system being more powerful, having the best console online infrastructure ever, receiving the better builds of multi-platform games the majority of the time OR offering titles not available on the PS2. (Although to be fair, most were timed exclusives)

and the gamecube games were to kiddy like. the ps2 games were perfect.

Might want to do some research, the majority of children own PS2's. <3

Lets agree to disagree. We [sony fans] arent misguided, and the gcn isnt kiddy.

Yes you are. (http://rarewitchproject.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5942)

Edit: Oh and for the record, I own all three. ;)

P_L

7th September 2006, 12:16 AM

And to be completly honest.
Games have not been perfect since the N64 era. They've been going down the poop shoot for a long time.

Fixed (in my opinion, of course ;)), and agreed. Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie were the last games I ever felt were worth the amount they cost. The current marketing strategy for Nintendo, as my dad and I have discovered, appears to be "Make crappy games that people will be finished with in a week so they'll buy more crappy games from us". Microsoft's strategy is "Make lots of M-rated games and hideously-large controllers to drive little kids away and go for the only people who haven't yet been brainwashed by the gaming market: adults". Sony's plan seems to be "Cut corners by taking what ideas you can from other products, even if that means using your competitors' ideas and/or technonogy that doesn't actually serve any practical purpose yet and probably won't for several years, then sell, sell, sell for twice what the opposition wants for their stuff". Pretty soon, though, all those marketing plans will likely quit working, and all three companies will find themselves in deep trouble, and the only people who will have been responsible for them getting to that position will be themselves. Then you know what they'll do? Keep using the same strategy because it's "tried and true", never figuring out that it was these strategies that got them killed in the first place. :no:
[/angry raving]
These are just my opinions, though ... and no, I don't particularly like any of the three major developers at the moment ...

I personally own a PS2 and GCN, and I might get the Xbox 360 if there's ever a Banjo game on it or any other game I see as being worth my money.

LoZ Hero

7th September 2006, 01:14 AM

Oh I am so sorry...
Seriously...
I meant to type in N64 but I was impulsed by SNES due to the fact that it is recieving more gametime recently...

Please disregard my blasphemy...
Banjo and Kazooie still rock...

P_L

7th September 2006, 01:48 AM

S'all right, man. :) I know plenty of people who prefer the SNES over the N64. (I'm not one of 'em, though, due to B-K/B-T. But I do still like my SNES. ;) )

Gruntling

7th September 2006, 04:11 AM

supuhchris and new@bthacking:

I don't think the forum description was written in mind to specifically irritate Sony fans. It's just a little inside humor to poke fun at. (Don't be so uppity! :p) My goodness, if such trivial things bother you then you're looking at this far too seriously.

Platinum Jinjo

7th September 2006, 11:35 AM

I have all three consoles plus N64 , snes GBA , NDS and ps1 I don't care about consoles , the games are the most important thing to me. I bought the consoles because they had a game are two i wanted. I will get all three consoles again , in time that is.... I can't afford a ps3 till the price drops , But i will be getting a Wii at launch and a 360 for Christmas. All three consoles have exclusive franchises i like so again I'll be a tri-console owner. People get to fanatical about this stuff.

pinkbull

7th September 2006, 12:35 PM

I really hate what Sony has been doing for consoles and the like. I'm not going to stick to one console but get all 3. Gotta catch 'em all I suppose...

Tanjo

7th September 2006, 03:16 PM

The only thing that pisses me off about sony is that they took out the rumble feature so they could put in some fruity movement censor thing.

s.w.a.t

7th September 2006, 04:34 PM

There are certain things I like and dislike about the PS2 and Gamecube and Wii and PS3, but for the fourth generation, The PS3 isn't really working for me. I love how people call Sony evil for overpricing things, then say that it's horrible and that they don't want it, so what is the point of worrying about its price?

Gold Jinjo

7th September 2006, 06:05 PM

The only thing that pisses me off about sony is that they took out the rumble feature so they could put in some fruity movement censor thing.

Erm... Sony took out the rumble because they were sued by Immersion and were legally required to remove it (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060313-6366.html). The motion sensor had nothing to do with it.

Grey Jinjo

7th September 2006, 06:46 PM

Guys, I wrote the line and I have PS1/PS2 and will eventually get PS3 :p.

Hakey Wake

7th September 2006, 07:13 PM

I love how people call Sony evil for overpricing things, then say that it's horrible and that they don't want it, so what is the point of worrying about its price?

Just a wild guess, but the high price could be a reason why people don't want it.

s.w.a.t

7th September 2006, 07:20 PM

Just a wild guess, but the high price could be a reason why people don't want it.
WhatI'm saying is that a lot of the "Nintedo fans" on this board say that the PS3 is a horrible machine, without mentioing the price.

Hakey Wake

7th September 2006, 07:22 PM

Where has anybody said that?

The PS3 is a technical juggernaut.

s.w.a.t

7th September 2006, 07:26 PM

Where has anybody said that?

The PS3 is a technical juggernaut.
Mainly the contoler and such...or maybe I'm confusing this board wit the idiots at IGN. Anyway, I'm not denying that it's an EXTREMELY well built system, just some people are being idiots. It's hard to find any news on the Nintendo boards when half of it is idiot topics about the Wii and PS3.

Grey Jinjo

7th September 2006, 10:19 PM

Well the controller completely sucks. The controller is only, what, $40 though. They don't corrolate.

Note: Spelling/grammar/logic errors ahoy in this post.

Hakey Wake

7th September 2006, 10:24 PM

Spelling, grammar and logic are the least of your problems (http://rarewitchproject.com/forums/showpost.php?p=109821&postcount=9) right now though.

Why....? :(

Gold Jinjo

8th September 2006, 01:44 AM

Anyway, I'm not denying that it's an EXTREMELY well built system, just some people are being idiots.

It's very well built for something that reportedly has to be kept in a fridge in order to keep it cool.

Or it's a fridge all on it's own, I forget.

</random teasing>

It's definitely well-built. It has to be. The problem lies in the cost of its parts. Namely its Blu-Ray features, which is part of Sony's latest attempt to push a new format on the world.

By no means do I hate Sony based solely on the PS3. I don't care about the PS3, and I don't care who buys it -- and I hope they enjoy their overpriced Blu-Ray player ;)

Hakey Wake

8th September 2006, 02:49 AM

Isn't it pretty cheap for a Blu-Ray player? XD

Gold Jinjo

8th September 2006, 03:23 AM

Isn't it pretty cheap for a Blu-Ray player? XD

Sure, if you have $1,000 handy ;)

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDP-S1-Blu-ray-Disc-Player/dp/B000DZS0G8/sr=1-2/qid=1157685733/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-3215659-8286244?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
http://amazon.com/s/ref=br_ss_hs/103-3215659-8286244?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Delectronics-aps&keywords=blu-ray&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

So err... yeah. By overpriced I meant... discount. Hooray for PS3. :p

*runs*

LoZ Hero

8th September 2006, 01:34 PM

Hey now your buddy right here will be getting a PS3 on release date!!
Day one even! (mostly because that will be the only day to get it.)

Anyways so there...
I mean come on!
It's Sony's newest console! They have an unprecidented rabid fanbase!! Add in the 500,000 Worldwide limit (400,000 US - 100,000 JP) And BAM!

Can you just imagine my EBay profit! I'll rake in 1500 Easy!

OH SNAP!

Mystery Man

8th September 2006, 05:13 PM

Time for some fun. This is living...

http://www.thisiswaiting.com/

Avarice

11th September 2006, 04:15 AM

Time for some fun. This is living...

http://www.thisiswaiting.com/

Someone has way too much time on their hands.

Hakey Wake

11th September 2006, 06:27 PM

Time for some fun. This is living...

http://www.thisiswaiting.com/

Haha, that was great. :cool:

Donkey Kong

12th September 2006, 08:09 PM

LaorBR

12th September 2006, 10:56 PM

Nah, PS2 ports are well known for having low framerate issues, less detailed (aka: blurried down) textures and you can tell at an eye glance that the screen resolution is sharper in Xbox games.
See also: much longer loading times!

Tanjo

12th September 2006, 11:14 PM

I want to see proof of that. And it dosent make sense to have longer loading times for "worse graphics".

LaorBR

12th September 2006, 11:23 PM

Bah, just play the damn thing.
EDIT: Btw, I own a PS2, so there is your proof.
Its loading times are not as slow as a Dreamcast, but still slower than the others.

Tanjo

12th September 2006, 11:26 PM

I HAVE been playing it for 6 years and i dont find anything wrong with it. Graphcs depend on the game- not the system.

LaorBR

12th September 2006, 11:27 PM

I HAVE been playing it for 6 years and i dont find anything wrong with it. Graphcs depend on the game- not the system.
Depends on the game AND the amount of VRAM available for textures.
Try playing RE4 on both the GC and a PS2. Look closely at the walls.

Grey Jinjo

13th September 2006, 12:14 AM

I HAVE been playing it for 6 years and i dont find anything wrong with it. Graphcs depend on the game- not the system.

WHAT?!

You tell them to make a great graphic game for Coleco Vision. See how that works out for you.

They had to cut down framerate in Resident Evil 4 in HALF just so it would run on PS2. That's how underpowered PS2 was. GAMECUBE has sharper images and faster processing. X-box was even more of a powerhouse. I could only imagine a downgrade from that standpoint.

You can't figure out why there would be longer loading times with worse graphics? That's easy... lower processing power. Go try to open a video on a 256 MHz CPU and a 3.2 GHz Dual Processor CPU. See which loads faster.

You're starting to blur the line between opinion and fact. It's you're opinion that the PS2 is a good console. However, it's a FACT that it is severely underpowered in comparison to the other two. In your defense however, the PS3 will be an insane POWERHOUSE compared to Wii60.

Macsbuddy

13th September 2006, 12:35 AM

How to become a misgided Sony fan: a three step easy guide by Macsbuddy

step one:
First you must realize the truth: the greatest game company to ever grace the earth does ot beleive in sony. although i think they made a game or two for the ps1, they were not masterpieces. After you have realized that you must accomidate yourself with the the most cookie cutter games on the face of the earth. after you have gotten a vast array of those, you can hit and miss on some other great games out there like a final fantas game, a version of ddr and mabye a katamari damacy.

step two:
The avrage misguied sony fan must then sell a bunch of stuff in order to gat up to the $600 mark for a new ps3. selling your dreamcast and your 254 games should surfice, but if you do not have that, selling furnature will work also. However, in some cases, you might just have to get a job until you can get $600 that you can spend on it.

step three:
now, you must put down nintendo and microsoft because there is nothing really else to do. probably the best way to do this is to brag to a nintendo fan that the ps3 will have a motion sensative controller and the wii is just a cheap knockoff. now, run like hell because he/she is reaching for the closest weapon.

in all seriousness, the ps2 was pretty good...i doubt this time next year i'll be able to say the same for the ps3...

Gold Jinjo

13th September 2006, 01:45 AM

Tanjo

13th September 2006, 01:48 AM

Yeah obviously.

Mystery Man

13th September 2006, 02:25 AM

Actually no, it doesn't. Many people bought the PS2 simply because it had added multimedia functionality, not because it had better games or graphics. It appealed to casual gamers, not exactly known for their technophile tendencies, unlike XBox owners.

Tanjo

13th September 2006, 10:50 AM

What the hell are you talking about? Xbox isnt the "innocent" system either you know.

Gold Jinjo

13th September 2006, 06:10 PM

And that's supposed to mean... what?

If millions of people go see a movie, does that mean the movie is good?

Yeah obviously.

I guess everyone loved Blair Witch 2 then :p

What the hell are you talking about? Xbox isnt the "innocent" system either you know.

He's not talking about the system. He's talking about the people who bought it.

Hakey Wake

13th September 2006, 09:26 PM

I think the "misguided" label is all opinion. I mean, look at the statistics of the PS2's systems compared to the Xbox and the GameCube.

PS2 - 100,000,000+
Xbox - 30,000,000+
GaCu - 20,000,000+

Got that from Wikipeeeeedia.

So....? PS2 also had an 18 month jump on the competition also. :) Not to mention that sales numbers, while it is true to some degree that high sales = quality...Enter the Matrix did outsell Metroid Prime + Beyond Good & Evil combined.

I want to see proof of that.

Try not playing the software with your eyes shut then. o-O

I HAVE been playing it for 6 years and i dont find anything wrong with it. Graphcs depend on the game- not the system.

Well...that statement caused my Mountain Dew to spew from the confines of my mouth and become rather well aquainted with my now somewhat-green chest. :)