What did Microsoft do?

[P_L]

I wish to have something explained:
Everywhere I go I see people saying "OMFG M@CRO$H** 1Z T3h $#!+Z!!1!", but I fail to see what it was that they ever did to deserve such a reputation. Sure, they've only recently entered the console video game market (well ... recently compared to Sony and Nintendo, at least), but does that make their systems automatically worse? What's really so bad about them? I was even considering getting a 360 ...

[shadd]

Ever since they bought Rare, I couldnt stand the thought of ever owning an Xbox, simply because the possibility of another Rare game on a Nintendo Consol was gone. I've had some time to heal now, and am even considering getting an Xbox 360 in a few years when the new BK3 game comes out. Other then that, I cant really explain it.

[Mr.Patch]

Wow I knew this would pop up eventually , but I don't think microsoft is bad , sure they did make my choice for the next gen consoles harder , but they never did anything bad.

I think people are just saying that there bad because they came in the gaming market a little late. And because of that almost every single game they come out with , people call it a "Rip-off" for a Nintendo game or a PS2 game.

But Microsoft isn't "ripping-off" anyone , just look at the 360 no motion sencor there!
Im still exited for the Wii and all but , I don't know if it will be fun waving your arm around...Im more of an old school gamer , if you know what I mean.
thats why im waiting for feedback for people before buying it.

Oh and I almost forgot , Microsoft isn't evil , Bill Gates is.

[Dylan Yoshi]

Nintendo fanboys.

[ChillyDark]

Or Sony fanboys.
Still, some people even made really long posts about Microsoft flaming.
Don't blame Microsoft, blame Nintendo for selling Rare.

[LaorBR]

Ironicaly, both Sony and Nintendo will be ripping off the Xbox Live! service in the future.
And by ripping it off I mean the gamer tags, the achivements points, the choice of buying and downloading retro games to your HD, etc, etc. Microsoft came up with these ideas first, but apparently no one mentions it.

[Blank]

Actually, it dates back to Microsoft's origins.

A guy created an operating system, and sold it to Bill Gates for $50, thinking it was worthless and unneeded. Gates then in turn sold the idea to IBM for millions. Basically, he prospered off the work of another person.

Or so the story goes.

[lamentofking]

As long as Rare is still in Commission I don't see anything to rant on about.

Things will happen that people do or do not like and sometimes you can change it and sometimes you can't.

[Killiax]

Microsoft is way better then Sony i'm not sure why it gets flamed alot but I think they are making good decisions specially now that Sony is starting to lose 3rd party support all Microsoft has to do is take advantage of that

[holyice7]

You know, when we're old, we'll be distracting our grandchildren from scoring points against us in their new VR games by telling them of a time when three factions of gamers hated each other for almost no reason at all.

And they'll be all "Pshh, sure grandpa, and I'll bet Nintendo started out making card games." And then they'll get a rare item drop from a Gold Chimera that I killed! Damn kids...



I'll admit, I'm a Nintendo fanboy at heart, but God of War, and soon Dead Rising, have shown me that no matter who makes the system, it's the gamers that make the games.

But cripes, I can't afford a PS3...

[banjo-eighty]

why people hate xbox? ....hmm well i wouldnt say i hate it more than ps .i ,and others, hate them both because

1.the games arent any good on either of them
2.despite this every body has fits of rage saying how good it is and how crap nintendo is (wich is asking to be hated back)
3.xbox gets cred for coming up with online play when dreamcast had it 2 years before
4. ps gets credabillity for everything they stole from nintendo and the motion sensor just pushed me over the edge
5.they charge more, but only simply because they can
6.sega (my favourite console along with nintendo) were pushed out of the market by ps
7.nobody i know in my school even knows what a wii is but they all know what a ps3 and xbox360 are
8.you dont call a console number "2" its ridicoulous when you think about (ps2)
9.xbox stole rare

and when you compare all this to nintendo it doesnt give the best image. besides just for the record i dont agree with all the above like number 9 , i think they simply bought rare in a buisness deal!

edit: what i also dont get is how playstation fans say how crap xbox is and how xbox fans say how crap ps is ,though to me there both the same consoles basiically they share the same games ,not many games are exlusive to either

[Tanjo]

A better question would be:

I wish to have something explained:
Everywhere I go I see people saying "OMFG S0N3Y** 1Z T3h $#!+Z!!1!", but I fail to see what it was that they ever did to deserve such a reputation. Sure, they've only recently entered the console video game market (well ... recently compared to Sega and Nintendo, at least), but does that make their systems automatically worse? What's really so bad about them? I was even considering getting a Ps3 ...

[banjo-eighty]

what i dont get it

[P_L]

A better question would be:

I wish to have something explained:
Everywhere I go I see people saying "OMFG S0N3Y** 1Z T3h $#!+Z!!1!", but I fail to see what it was that they ever did to deserve such a reputation. Sure, they've only recently entered the console video game market (well ... recently compared to Sega and Nintendo, at least), but does that make their systems automatically worse? What's really so bad about them? I was even considering getting a Ps3 ...

The difference there is that there are somewhat legitimate reasons to dislike Sony (i.e. taking things from other companies and calling them "new" and "original", putting in so much anti-piracy stuff into their new system that even playing a game at your friend's house becomes inpossible, etc.). Plus I wasn't considering buying the PS3, which rules out the last sentence in your paragraph. :p And Sony's been in the game parket since the N64 era, so they're not all that new to the market at this point ...

Here is my official statement regarding people who think Microsoft "stole" Rare (this isn't directed at anyone in particular, just people who think this in general):
Microsoft did not steal Rare. Nintendo put Rare up for sale, and Microsoft was smart and bought at the right time. It was a normal business deal. NO ONE STOLE ANYTHING.

That's what happened, like Banjo-Eighty said.

[Gruntling]

Generally, I think the Microsoft-reaction has much to do with fanboyism... People who are taking themselves and their hobbies a little too seriously. I say this because I really can't see much at all that Microsoft has done wrong. They've positively contributed to the gaming industry in their own way. On the RWP, a lot of the negative sentiment towards Microsoft comes from the Rare-Nintendo departure. It's evident no doubt. :p

[LaorBR]

Oh great, even more of the same "I hate everything that's not Nintendo simply because it's NOT Nintendo" wars...


Ayo let's break it up in parts, oldschoola styla, yaknow what I'msayin'? :cool:
1.the games arent any good on either of them
Great argument coming from someone who would rather die than play a game that's not on a Nintendo console.
2.despite this every body has fits of rage saying how good it is and how crap nintendo is (wich is asking to be hated back)
So you do the exact same and start having fits of rage saying how good Nintendo is and how crap everything else will always be?

W00t @ hipocrisy.
3.xbox gets cred for coming up with online play when dreamcast had it 2 years before
Very few Dreamcast games actually had online matches. Like Quake 3 Arena, and some sports games.

Most games only let you donwload some crappy stuff, like menu skins, holiday themes, etc.
Later it was discovered that these supposed "downloadable extras" were already in the game disk, and you just "unlocked 'em" by going online.

Don't get me wrong, I also love Sega as a game company, but unfortunately they came up with the lamest concept of "online" ever. I don't really blame them tho, because back at that time 56k modems were probably the fastest things around.
4. ps gets credabillity for everything they stole from nintendo and the motion sensor just pushed me over the edge
What did they steal from Nintendo in the first place? Oh yeah I know, "OH NOES the dual shock has two analog sticks! They stole the N64 twice! omgomgomg".

Also, Sony has had an "Optical Motion Sensor" patent for more than two years before the Wii was even announced.
And seriously, just LOOK at it! (http://www.ps3informer.com/playstation-3/news/ps3-controller-unveiled-motion-sensor-added-004448.php)
You just can't hold it like a sword, or swing it like a tennis racket.
You don't really need to be a genius to figure that out!
The concept of these controllers may be the same on paper, but the way the things are supposed to be used is far from being a rip-off.
More importantly: unlike the Wii, not all games will take advantage of the motion sensor. So far, only a handful of the announced PS3 games will.
5.they charge more, but only simply because they can
And I guess you probably think that Blu Ray readers, Cell processors and graphic units that can support screen resolutions as high as 1080p must grow on trees or something (now I'm sounding like a spokesperson :p)
6.sega (my favourite console along with nintendo) were pushed out of the market by ps
Sega basically shot his own feet with the Sega Saturn.
First: it came one year before the competition, but it was almost a hundred dollars more expensive than the PSX, and it was inferior to it! Yeah, I know that the psx is crap in 2D games, but at least it could render transparent polygons properly. ;)
Also it had lots of features the Saturn didn't, like Alpha Blending, (i.e. lens flare, lighting effects) cool Frame Buffer effects, (i.e. swirly effect, motion blur, all that screen distortion crap), etc.

The Nitendo 64 of course had all that and more, but the small storage space of the cartridges and its high prices really handicapped the console.
Secondly: Sega didn't localize their most important games.
I can understand why Lunar and Grandia were never localized since they are RPGs and the translation is a complex business and stuff, but hell, they didn't even localize Silhoutte Mirage and Radiant Silvergun, which are friggin' arcade action games with very little in-game text!

And that's just to name a few of them. Seriously, if you ever come accross a Sega Saturn freak you'll notice that probably half of his games were imported from Japan.
Thirdly: The 32X.
A HUGE and stupid waste of money.
For both Sega and gamers alike.
Fourth: NO SONIC. Booo-hooo.
Not many people know NiGHTS as well as they know Sonic.
Therefore: No big Sonic game in a Sega console = Big mistake.

It's not my opinion, it's a fact: you can't blame Sony for all these Sega's mistakes.
The Saturn was ill fated since it's release, the media knew the console was rushed because it was supposed to be released in 1996, but they released in 95 instead.
7.nobody i know in my school even knows what a wii is but they all know what a ps3 and xbox360 are
Sucks to be in your school o-O
Also: gee I thought I lived in the third world! :p
8.you dont call a console number "2" its ridicoulous when you think about (ps2)
Then I assume you must think the "Wii" was the neatest console name ever. :P
9.xbox stole rare
Nintendo put 'em on sale. LOL
See also: P_L's post.

and when you compare all this to nintendo it doesnt give the best image.
Yeah, when you compare the 6 or 7 Gamecube games that actually remained exclusive... Well... It's definately not a pretty image.
Have fun saying "omg substance over quantity" or something. The truth is that about everything on the GC was ported to other consoles.

though to me there both the same consoles basiically they share the same games ,not many games are exlusive to either
Nice, looks like a pretty sign of ignorance. Or maybe you misunderstood them with Nintendo or something.

EDIT: Noticed that this post was too much Sony biased.
So, hey the Xbox360 rocks too!
EDIT2: The Xbox360 and their Xbox Live! service have, like what I said in my other post in this thread, basically revolutioned the concept of online gaming.
Their ideas like the gamer tag and the achivement points were brilliant, and probably will be copied by the competition.

I agree that online play may have been around since forever, even before the Dreamcast was announced, but it was Microsoft the company who really modernized and expanded it.

[Macsbuddy]

*watches LaorBR smash banjo 80 into a wall*
welll... it's time for MACSBUDDY'S XBOX PROS AND CONS!!!!!

fact: size for both 1 and 360
pro: because of it's size, it can produce better graphics and do a lot more stuff and crap like that...not that it's crap, i just wanted to use another word other than stuff, because i had just used the word 'stuff'...okay, back on the topic
con: this thing is HUGE!!!!

fact: microsoft has rare
pro: rare now has a new employer
con: microsoft has been neg reped for "stealing" rare...and plus the DK series is no more :(

fact: the 360 is $300-400!
pro: it' a LOT lesss than a ps3!!!
con: it's more than a wii

fact: the xbox is home to probably the most hardcore games/gamers ever!
pro: this means great buisness and great games! whoo-hoo!
con: well... it's also home to some EXTREME fanboys...look around your school and see the guys with halo 2 strategy guides with them all the time (or is that just my school?)
con2:well, although this might not be correct, it seems to neg rep the nintendo company when there is someone who dosen't really like the xbox. sony i think is on the sideline, but it's sorta also the same way

fact: the xbox1 and 360 are insane powerhouses!
pro: this means great graphics for the original!
con: the ps3's $650 self is going to out do it

well, i think that's basicly it...*whacks head against tree*

[Bottles98]

Well, P_L...what did the poor little Wii do to you? Huh? :p

I mean...would you discriminate against someone just because their name was "P. Nuss?"

Anyway, as far as what Microsoft did...they bought Rare and that pissed people off and some haven't gotten over it. People are stupid. There.

[P_L]

Well, P_L...what did the poor little Wii do to you? Huh? :p

I mean...would you discriminate against someone just because their name was "P. Nuss?

I haven't tried to flame the thing; just the mere innocently-worded mention of the fact that I'm not interested in buying one throws people into a frenzy of "OMG U R TEH SUX!!1!" and then they blame ME for "flaming" it when all I did was say "I have no interest in buying one as it does not appeal to my personal tastes". :-/

And no, the name is not the reason I don't want it. It's because none of the games really appeal to me - I'm more into other stuff now.

[banjo-eighty]

Oh great, even more of the same "I hate everything that's not Nintendo simply because it's NOT Nintendo" wars...


Ayo let's break it up in parts, oldschoola styla, yaknow what I'msayin'? :cool:

Great argument coming from someone who would rather die than play a game that's not on a Nintendo console.

thats not true ,first of all my favourite game maker is sega and second of all i also play gizzmondo and n-gage

Then I assume you must think the "Wii" was the neatest console name ever. :P

Nintendo put rare on sale not stole them. LOL
See also: P_L's post.


actually the wii is a good name it was called such to indicate people playing together as in "we" and the two i's are to indicate two controllers again 2 people playing and not one plus the word wii can only be asociated with urine in one language and thats english ,for the rest of the world its fine plus the name is designed short so you dont need to abreviate it.

also about rare if you had read all my post you would have seen i actually said

. besides just for the record i dont agree with all the above like number 9 , i think they simply bought rare in a buisness deal!

[LaorBR]

I read that post, it's just that I love blaming Nintendo for selling Rare, that's why I said that.
:D

And you have your opinion about numbers in a console name (which means the Nintendo 64 was a stupid name too) and I have my opinion about a Wii (which I thought was a nickname for p3nis).

Never heard about that Gizmondo thing before, but it looks cool.
And forget about my last huge post, the Sega Saturn part got me all worked out. XD

[P_L]

(which I thought was a nickname for p3nis).

I believe that may be true. But Nintendo seems convinced that just because it means "good" in three countries who don't know and will probably never know what "Nintendo" is that it's a good marketing scheme. Something seems flawed there to me. o-O

[banjo-eighty]

i do admit the revoloution was probably a better name (in my opinion)
and yes im not keen on the name 64 either but im just glad this hasnt turned into a flame war or something

[Bottles98]

I haven't tried to flame the thing; just the mere innocently-worded mention of the fact that I'm not interested in buying one throws people into a frenzy of "OMG U R TEH SUX!!1!" and then they blame ME for "flaming" it when all I did was say "I have no interest in buying one as it does not appeal to my personal tastes". :-/

And no, the name is not the reason I don't want it. It's because none of the games really appeal to me - I'm more into other stuff now.
#1: Whoaly crap. You took that too srsly. Srsly. Did you not realize I came completely out of left field with that? Hint hint. Maybe I was just having some fun. And...you fulfilled it unknowingly. :p
#2 I never said "UR TEH SUX." Maybe you weren't talking about me. Either way, I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation (regardless of whether or not it started as a little poke at you.) Anyway, I can guarantee it's not just the fact that you're not buying one. Maybe someone asked why out of curiosity and you claimed you "didn't have to explain yourself"?
#4 Well, I assumed it was the name because in many a thread you've claimed how you can't bring yourself to say the name. When you make such a big deal over something like that, that's what people will assume.
#5 I was asked to do this. Clicky (http://z13.invisionfree.com/Reel_Discussion/index.php?showtopic=101&st=30).
I think you could have made your argument a little bit stronger here, by more directly answering questions.

Now, look, I just wanted to intelligently ask some questions. Don't get on my back and call me a "fanboy" or anything. Here, you can even ask me whatever YOU want.

[P_L]

#2 I never said "UR TEH SUX." Maybe you weren't talking about me.

I didn't say that you called me that. I said that every time I try to bring it up anywhere else, everyone calls me that.

Either way, I'm trying to have an intelligent conversation (regardless of whether or not it started as a little poke at you.) Anyway, I can guarantee it's not just the fact that you're not buying one. Maybe someone asked why out of curiosity and you claimed you "didn't have to explain yourself"?

I've tried explaining myself to people before. Then the next person to respond uses their entire post to point out all the ways in which my opinion is "wrong" and "invalid", even though it's just as valid as theirs. See the thread you linked to as an example.

#4 Well, I assumed it was the name because in many a thread you've claimed how you can't bring yourself to say the name. When you make such a big deal over something like that, that's what people will assume.

When did I make a big deal over that? I only mentioned that once; then people blew it up into a big deal.

#5 I was asked to do this. Clicky (http://z13.invisionfree.com/Reel_Discussion/index.php?showtopic=101&st=30).
I think you could have made your argument a little bit stronger here, by more directly answering questions.

I really don't understand why I'd have to name every single time I'd ever used a motion-sensitive device just to have someone believe that I'd used one. People should be able to accept "I've tried using technology similar to this, and it hasn't worked well" as an answer.

Now, look, I just wanted to intelligently ask some questions. Don't get on my back and call me a "fanboy" or anything. Here, you can even ask me whatever YOU want.

Okay then ... here's a question:
Where was point #3 in your post? It goes from 2 to 4 ... :p

[LaorBR]

I really don't understand why I'd have to name every single time I'd ever used a motion-sensitive device just to have someone believe that I'd used one. People should be able to accept "I've tried using technology similar to this, and it hasn't worked well" as an answer.
I think they are trying to say that technology evolves, just because you had one bad experience with motion sensors in the past doesn't mean they'll always stay that way...

Besides, people actually played Zelda with the Wiimote on E3, and nobody complained about the controls. Overall I only heard good things about it.


But that's just my thoughts.
:)

EDIT: Oh yeah, keep in mind we are talking about the Wiimote, not the new Zelda game.
I know how much you hate Zelda. :p

[P_L]

Besides, people actually played Zelda with the Wiimote on E3, and nobody complained about the controls. Overall I only heard good things about it.

That's usually when I start to question the credibility of a source ... usually there's at least some level of extreme bias involved if a large number of people only say good things about something. There's gotta be at least some problems with it somewhere - no game or piece of technology can ever be "perfect".

I don't want to have to keep going with this argument over why I'm wrong to not buy the Wii; the only reason I'm in it right now is because people just won't let it die. I've explained my reasons for not buying it (which I should not have had to do in the first place - people are entitled to their opinions and their privacy, at least in this country), I've explained how I feel about people constantly saying my opinions are wrong, so stop trying to cinvince me to reconsider. I do not want the thing, that is the end of it.

[LaorBR]

You haven't played the Wii either, so I think you should forget about all that fanboy hype and try it out with an open mind when it's released to have an unbiased opinion about it.

And then everyone's happy. Yay :p

Basically that's all I was trying to say, no need to take it so seriously.

[P_L]

I may try it someday, but not at the start. And the games still do not look appealing to me currently. Not a Zelda fan, not much of a Mario fan anymore, not a fan of racing games with handheld sterring wheels, got bored of the ideas behind the Super Smash Bros. games and not looking forward to another slightly expanded re-iteration ... nothing really to my liking. Why can't they just make more 3D adventure games like they had for the N64? That might make me happier about the thing. (Super Mario Galaxy doesn't look at all like the old ones to me ... it looks like they're throwing out most of the old ideas that people liked and starting over - which, if I recall correctly, has killed more than one popular game series (and even game consoles) in the past.)

[LaorBR]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about
There are too many gimmicky games on the Wii, and that feeling of "doing different just for the heck of being different".
Of course being innovative is good, but sometimes you need to make things work in the "usual way".

And I also thought the launch titles were unimpressive.
The only one that caught my attention was probably the Wiimake of Trauma Center.
Red Steel looks cool, but I'd rather wait for Heroes (a shooter by the same guys who made Killer 7 on GC)
It's just that Heroes has a much cooler and crazier style than Red Steel (I dunno why but I can't stop thinking about how they were ripping-off Kill Bill when I look at that old guy in the ads).

The other good Wii titles are only coming out in 2007.

[Theguyoverthere]

Maybe someone asked why out of curiosity and you claimed you "didn't have to explain yourself"?

Uh... *looks left and right suspiciously* :-/ I don't think I ever did that... now did I? ;)

Seriously guys, this is entertaining. We need a popcorn smiley; the punch isn't good enough. This pointless arguing going back and forth is so entertaining! Keep it up!

OK, so here's my say on things:

I like Nintendo. They're cool. I'm going to buy any console that doesn't completely SUCK (like the gameboy Micro), and the good things outnumber the bad things on the Wii, thus, I'm going to buy it. I didn't pre-order mine, and I'm not making threads like "ZOMG! I PRE-ORDERERED MY WIIIII! WHY WON'T OTHAH PEOPLES! SRSRSRLY!" I'm just saying that I think it's a cool idea for a console. It has motion senseing technology. That's cool. What's even cooler is that it plays Gamecube games. SMART move on Nintendo's part. What's also awesome is the virtual console. What can be debated as awesome or not, is the WiiMote. Yes, it is a little odd, but I think with time people will get used to it. Some people argue that they are too "old school gamer" and shouldn't have to move to play a game. (wink wink *lazy* wink wink) Well, Nintendo's thought of that, too. They have a classic controller. And I'm sure that most of they're games will have multiple controller options.

I may think the Wii is cool, and I may question other people about it just out of curiosity, and I might even try to convince someone to get it, but I try my best not to carry it too far. Seriously, it's a game.

And now something on-topic (about Mircorsoft)
I don't prefer Microsoft's games because the style just doesn't appeal to me. I don't enjoy shooting aliens with Halos on or whatever the heck they make you do. I like E rated games. I'm not even sure if Microsoft has any E rated games. Oh well, I'll just go to Nintendo and shut my mouth about it. No one gets hurt.

And just so everyone knows, don't think I know what I'm talking about because this is just all my opinion. And yes, I do overdo things sometimes.

[banjo-eighty]

im hoping for .......... super mario 256 for the wii that will make it alot more interesting

[Hakey Wake]

I can't think of anything Microsoft have really done wrong with their foray into the industry actually.

If I had to deeply soul-search (nit-pick), I'd say:
I (personally) don't feel the 360's lineup is varied enough (similar to how the Xbox had next to nothing that couldn't be found elsewhere), although if I say anymore Icy Guy will no doubt sink his teeth into my masculine neck.

The "Duke" controller. (Well I can use it, everybody else must have petite hands. :P)

Microtransactions, I despise the idea of paying for game content after I've already bought the software. (GT HD WTF SONY WTF) But every company seems to be heading down this path so...=/

Xbox Live - Thought never having experienced it personally, I've heard nothing but good things about the service. However, as above, I just don't want to keep paying for my system after I've already bought it (hence why I stay well away from MMORPGs).

[Grey Jinjo]

Xbox Live - Thought never having experienced it personally, I've heard nothing but good things about the service. However, as above, I just don't want to keep paying for my system after I've already bought it (hence why I stay well away from MMORPGs).
[/LIST]

I bought XB360 almost entirely for the Live feature, so now you heard something positive about it :p.

[Hakey Wake]

I bought XB360 almost entirely for the Live feature, so now you heard something positive about it :p.

Xbox Live - Thought never having experienced it personally, I've heard nothing but good things about the service. However, as above, I just don't want to keep paying for my system after I've already bought it (hence why I stay well away from MMORPGs).

O.k. XXD

[Grey Jinjo]

Good == positive. Almost. Enough to count.

Right? :-/.

PS: I knew I wasn't right on base, that's why I swapped out the word :p. But, I enjoy the social environment that XBL gives. It sounds like a novelty at first (playing with other people) until you actually experience it and the entertaining conversation that can go with a game. That's my opinion, anyway.

I like having friends come over and play games in one big geek-fiesta of sorts. XBL gets me one step closer to that. If you prefer to play stuff alone, the service won't do much for you.

[Icy Guy]

Xbox Live freakin' rocks. Nothing quite like that community spirit, although as Grey said, if offline play is your thing, Live won't be.

...although if I say anymore Icy Guy will no doubt sink his teeth into my masculine neck.
*CHOMP* ;)

See, the 360 does have a varied lineup, but too many of its users have too much of an interest in playing the latest installment of Tom Clancy's World War II Skateboarding Football to actually play/praise something else. I'll go back to (and expand on) one of my old posts, containing a partial list of my 360 games, to illustrate:

-Perfect Dark Zero - first-person shooter
-Kameo - adventure
-Project Gotham Racing 3 - arcade + sim racing
-Dead or Alive 4 - fighting
-Full Auto - car combat (sub-genre of racing)
-Geometry Wars - retro, Asteroids-style 3rd person space shooter
-Hexic HD - puzzle
-Marble Blast Ultra - platformer; think Marble Madness
-Outpost Kaloki X - light-hearted space station "tycoon" game in which everyone loves lemonade
-Texas Hold 'Em - hawt poker action

And those are just the games that aren't available elsewhere. Now what's everyone playing these days? Here's (http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2006/11/04/xbox-live-activity-for-week-of-10-30.aspx) last week's list of top 10's. And what's on there?

Tom Clancy. WWII. Skateboarding. American AND European football. Relatively speaking, you don't hear all that much about the others, do you?

We all know Gears of War is going to be played to hell and back by the community, but what about Viva Piñata? What about Sonic? What about the Burger King games? And what about - dare I say it - Dead or Alive Xtreme 2?


:(

(Kudos to the guys at the DKU for "Tom Clancy's World War II Skateboarding Football.")

[Hakey Wake]

-Perfect Dark Zero - first-person shooter
-Kameo - adventure
-Project Gotham Racing 3 - arcade + sim racing
-Dead or Alive 4 - fighting
-Full Auto - car combat (sub-genre of racing)
-Geometry Wars - retro, Asteroids-style 3rd person space shooter
-Hexic HD - puzzle
-Marble Blast Ultra - platformer; think Marble Madness
-Outpost Kaloki X - light-hearted space station "tycoon" game in which everyone loves lemonade
-Texas Hold 'Em - hawt poker action

Bolded are what interests me for the 360 (out of that list of course), truthfully i haven't really done a whole lot of research on it because it's too pricey (for a student I mean ;)) to be purchased by myself anytime soon.

And that top 10 list was rather disheartening, so many "07"s, "2"s "12"s and "8"s in the titles. XD (While it is true you can never have too much of a good thing, come on, Tony Hawk's 8?! o-O )

[Icy Guy]

At least Ubisoft called it "Splinter Cell: Double Agent" instead of "Splinter Cell 4." ;) Come to think of it, none of the SC games have a number in the title: Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory were #2 & #3.

On a student budget, the 360 is kind of pricey. Here's to hoping that they go through with the 360 + PGR3 + Live trial subscription package, although it looks like PGR3 didn't make the "bolded games" list.

[Grey Jinjo]

Nor should it ;).

But Marble Blast Ultra really is a great game. It sounds like a sleeper title though, and I understand why such a bland name doesn't go around enticing gamers :p.

[Hakey Wake]

At least Ubisoft called it "Splinter Cell: Double Agent" instead of "Splinter Cell 4." ;) Come to think of it, none of the SC games have a number in the title: Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory were #2 & #3.

I also read on Penny Arcade that the 360 build is almost a completely different game to the last-gen systems versions (for better or worse I don't know).

....or maybe it was just the co-op-something-or-other that was changed, I can't really remember.

[Hopalongtom]

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Originally Posted by banjo-eighty
5.they charge more, but only simply because they can
And I guess you probably think that Blu Ray readers, Cell processors and graphic units that can support screen resolutions as high as 1080p must grow on trees or something (now I'm sounding like a spokesperson )

Actually the UK release will not support 1080p because of PAL, and they are still selling for high price!!! :eek:

[ByroDaMan]

I'm a Sony and Nintendo fan, I have a PS2, a N64 and in about 2 weeks im gonna get a gamecube :p

[LaorBR]

Actually the UK release will not support 1080p because of PAL, and they are still selling for high price!!! :eek:
Maybe that explains the infamous PS3 delay in europe?
Well, probably not. Just a thought.
Besides, the Cell processor can do much more than just 1080p. As far as I know the PS3 is supposedly three times more powerful than the 360.

Anyway, the Xbox360 may have a varied lineup of games, but if things keep going this way, the PS3 in its first year will probably have twice as many games as the 360 does now.

I mean, the PS2 is on its fifth year of its life cycle, with competition from a more advanced console, and look at how many hot titles it got this year: Okami, FFXII, Bully, Kingdom Hearts II, etc, etc.
And after reading that article Swat has posted, I realized that Nintendo's been working in this casual-gamer strategy thing since the Gamecube launch, but it didn't work very well because Sony kept all the big third parties for them...
I think this year's console war will be a lot more balanced, but Sony will stay in the first place unless they screw up really bad.

You can yell Riiiidge Racer as much as you want, but I've already heard this hype about Nintendo going back to the top in 2001 and nothing really happened in the end.

EDIT: I'm not a fanboy, I'm just a jerk :)
And just for the records, I'm buying a 360 next year. Original games at 99 Reais. w00t.

[banjo-eighty]

I'm a Sony and Nintendo fan, I have a PS2, a N64 and in about 2 weeks im gonna get a gamecube :p

id just wait till wii ,it can suport all gamecube accesories