Here we go again.

[Madous]

Originally Posted by AndyNPC

In my opinion, Diablo 3 might be fun for someone who has never played a Diablo game before. For those who have, the tiered equipment and removal of skill-trees are a huge step back. I'd call Diablo 3 a "contraction pack" to Diablo 2.

As a person that played and beat Diablo 1 and 2 multiple times, I believe this is an improvement. The items tier exactly the same as it does in D2, so I don't know what you're talking about. As for skills, it allows for customization without worrying about misplacing one skillpoint and screwing up your whole build. Which many many many people did, including me. It fixes the problem of researching builds before playing, which you shouldn't need to do for a game.

[wkw427]

Originally Posted by greatman3388

You fail to realize that Blizz is trying to make Diablo as MMO-like as possible. Which, by what you just said, is acceptable.

Okay, you have a point. Blizzard is trying to make diablo as much mmo-like as possible, so they add in always-on drm

But my point is that because they are trying to make the game as mmo-like as possible, they add an unnecessary layer of drm.

ANNO 2070 was tried to be made as much mmo-like as possible, with world voting and reward items that you can use online. The flaw is that, you can only use your online reward items, ONLINE, and if you use them, and then go offline and lose them,your game is pretty much ****ed up.

If they wanted to make D3 a mmo, why not... make it a MMO?

[Madous]

Just so I make my point that much deeper, here's people complaining about Diablo 2 when it came out. Notice the similarities?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/top...9617219?page=1

[wkw427]

A large group of people will hate anything when it comes out.

I'm not saying the game is bad, I'm saying the DRM is bad. That is all I'm saying is bad.

[Madous]

You see, that is a sensible thing to say. You picked out one specific part that you don't agree with. That's totally fine.

The people who say the entire game is bad because of the DRM and the DRM alone are the unintelligent ones.

[wkw427]

In the case where the DRM would make them not buy the game, that viewpoint is justified.

For me, anno 2070 was bad because of the DRM, and later, because of the DRM and because there is TWENTY ****ING DOLLARS worth of DLC for it.

[The Colonel]

And before you ask why DRM would keep you from buying a good game...

Ever heard of Ubisoft?

[Madous]

I wasn't going to ask that - I know the examples. Blizzard's DRM is different in that it is hooked up to your Battle.net account. I could install my copy of Diablo III onto a thousand computers, given that I can log in on all of them. Frankly the only DRM that I find to be annoying are the ones that limit the amount of installations or region locking, or things of that nature.

[AndyNPC]

Here's an example of just how much Online DRM can effect the single player game. If you have a bad connection, you can't play this game at all. Quality of the game itself is subjective, but this is objectively bad.

[Madous]

Any game that has any kind of connectivity will lag. Personally I haven't run into a single lag or connection problem whatsoever in my 20+ hours of playing.

[The Colonel]

OK. And what about me? My connection lags all the time, if I bought this game wanting a singleplayer experience so I didn't have to deal with lag, I would be ****ing pissed.

[Madous]

If you bought Diablo for a single player experience, I would be pretty confused.

[wkw427]

Originally Posted by greatman3388

Any game that has any kind of connectivity will lag. Personally I haven't run into a single lag or connection problem whatsoever in my 20+ hours of playing.

Yes, for multiplayer that is acceptable. For singleplayer, unacceptable.

Originally Posted by greatman3388

If you bought Diablo for a single player experience, I would be pretty confused.

Then why did they add a single palyer mode?

[AndyNPC]

Originally Posted by greatman3388

If you bought Diablo for a single player experience, I would be pretty confused.

Take a look back at the video I posted. Do you think he chose to have a poor connection to the Blizzard servers? He was forced to play single-player because of it, and even that was unplayable. I should also add that there is no LAN option either. If you want to play an organized game with a few friends you'd have to do it over the Blizzard servers.

The online DRM has not improved the enjoyment of this game for anyone. I don't understand how anyone in their right mind could be defending this.

[The Colonel]

Originally Posted by greatman3388

If you bought Diablo for a single player experience, I would be pretty confused.

Just because you don't like single player doesn't mean other people don't like it.