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Old 14th May 2008, 01:53 AM
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Banjo and Kazooie- years apart?

What have Banjo and Kazooie been doing for eight years? Reading the character descriptions on Rareware.com, it suddenly struck me that they may have actually been separated from each other for a large part of that time.

Let's look at the descriptions for Banjo and Kazooie.

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Banjo the heroic Honey Bear is back, raring to go and... a little bit out of shape, to be honest. Hopefully a quick jog around Spiral Mountain will help get that sorted out. However, he's also got a whole new set of skills to learn if he's to take down arch-enemy Grunty this time!
Alright, we know that Banjo has been "in retirement" and has grown out of shape. Now, if Kazooie was still with him, would she ever let that happen to her friend? She's so adventurous, and she often seems to be the one who gets Banjo up and out. (It's been a while since I've played it, but I'm pretty sure that in BK, he wanted to keep sleeping even when his sister had been kidnapped, until Kazooie finally convinced him to get out of bed.) So what could be a good explanation for his getting out of shape, and not going on any adventures? What if the person who forced him to get moving in the first place was gone from his life?

But here's the real kicker that convinced me of this theory: Kazooie's description.

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Banjo's backpack beckons once more for wisecracking Breegull Kazooie. Luckily, any blustering that she might have done over her confinement is blown away as soon as she gets her feathers on Mumbo's magic wrench, and all the responsibility that comes with it.
Banjo's backpack beckons "once more." This could just mean that she's had no reason to be in his backpack, since the pair have had no great adventures in a long time. But remember, she used to even sleep in his backpack. That place was like her home. So maybe she stopped living with Banjo and went off on her own?

Also, "over her confinement"?! What in the world does that mean? Has she been imprisoned somewhere? Aww, Kazooie, we always knew you'd get in trouble someday...

So, here's what I think. Kazooie got bored of the peaceful life of retirement Banjo wished to live after saving the Isle o' Hags from utter zombification. Even though they were great friends, as time dragged on, they decided to go their separate ways in life. Then perhaps Kazooie got in trouble and was jailed? Sounds a bit crazy, but I wouldn't put it past Rare. After this, Banjo and Kazooie were out of contact until just recently before the game starts.

Perhaps Kazooie is even jailed IN Showdown Town, and they don't meet up again until after the adventure begins.

At any rate, the old dear friends have just recently met again and are learning to work together once more. This also gives an explanation for the painful fact that the bear and bird seem to focus more on gadgets and less on their own interacting skills now; over that long expanse of time, they have forgotten how to work effectively together using their own natural abilities.
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Old 14th May 2008, 01:55 AM
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I'm pretty sure "confinement" just refers to Banjo's backpack, considering she'll be in there the whole time.
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Old 14th May 2008, 01:56 AM
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Yeah. I can't imagine Kazooie doing nothing all that time. I smell a spinoff a la Daxter. xD I bet she had some adventures on her own.

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I think by "confinement", they meant confinement in Banjo's backpack


Since she seems to have a responsibility with Mumbo's wrench thing, she doesn't just sit in the backpack waiting until Banjo needs her. If you notice from the videos, her head seems to be poking out a lot more than it used to.
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Old 14th May 2008, 01:57 AM
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I don't think they seperated. You're looking too much into it
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Old 14th May 2008, 02:00 AM
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Yeah. I can't imagine Kazooie doing nothing all that time. I smell a spinoff a la Daxter. xD I bet she had some adventures on her own.
Yeah, I think so too.

Maybe I am looking too much into it, but it still makes sense to me. No matter what "confinement" means, the other arguments still stand. Maybe it's just that I can't imagine them staying together this long if Banjo wanted to have a completely peaceful life. I think their differing natures finally come into conflict, but it's not until this game that they realize how much they truly need each other again. (Awww.)
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So you're basically assuming Kazooie didn't think the peaceful life was boring until all of a sudden Tooty got kidnapped and they went adventuring? They've always been together. Don't try and change that.
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Old 14th May 2008, 02:17 AM
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So you're basically assuming Kazooie didn't think the peaceful life was boring until all of a sudden Tooty got kidnapped and they went adventuring? They've always been together. Don't try and change that.
Watch that BK Intro again. Kazooie was begging to go on an adventure before Tooty even got kidnapped.
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Old 14th May 2008, 02:17 AM
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So you're basically assuming Kazooie didn't think the peaceful life was boring until all of a sudden Tooty got kidnapped and they went adventuring? They've always been together. Don't try and change that.
Erm, I'm not trying to change it. It's only a theory. Heck, if they stayed together this whole time I'd be very happy, but I'm just suggesting that time passes and things change. Even the closest of friends can grow apart, but when they are united again they are reminded of how much they matter to each other.
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So you're basically assuming Kazooie didn't think the peaceful life was boring until all of a sudden Tooty got kidnapped and they went adventuring? They've always been together. Don't try and change that.
I smell a flame...he's not trying to change anything. It's a theory, for goodness sakes.

A lot of people are pretty uptight these last few days; I think myself included.
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I smell a flame...he's not trying to change anything. It's a theory, for goodness sakes.

A lot of people are pretty uptight these last few days; I think myself included.
Couldn't have said better myself but... Err... Isn't Princess J a she?
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I don't think they seperated. You're looking too much into it
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Old 14th May 2008, 07:08 AM
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Wouldn't surprise me if they separated. Perhaps Diddy Kong racing happened during that time? You don't lose much weight driving and it would fit with the new vehicle style.

As for kazooie, I have no idea. I don't think she would have gone for an adventure solo but she was definitely up to something.

Hopefully that annoyed some people eager to correct me on when Diddy kong racing was based
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Old 14th May 2008, 07:11 AM
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Diddy Kong Racing, in my view, has no place in Banjo canon. Though he appears and the game does have a story, nothing really ties it to the series' continuity.
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