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Ultima Manic 18th June 2005 07:47 AM

No, I mean is it possible to get XBox game enhancers e.g. Action replay etc :mazza

DevilBottles 18th June 2005 09:44 PM

Here you go, my investigation!
 
Well, Hatrickpatrick, I destroyed my SNS, and got the key first, then the eggs in this order:
Pink, Blue, Yellow, Cyan
I typed in the code first, went to the world, got the item, went back to TTC, typed in the next code, and so on.

Heres what I found:

After collecting the Cyan egg, I went to Banjo's House. I found that if you pressed your self against a wall, and used C-Up to look at the wall, and went to SNS, The Ice Key would fade INTO the wall! It doesnt do that anywhere else!
I also found another thing.
You know how, in some worlds, the text in the Game Totals page changes color (from blue to a different color). But, b4 collecting the eggs and key, Stop 'N' Swop wouldnt change accordingly. But, after collecting those exact eggs and key, "STOP 'N' SWOP" changed accordingly!!! :eek: Plus, when it did this, the Ice Key would spin really fast.
I found these worlds changed colors:
Mumbo's Mountain
Clanker's Cavern
Bubble Gloop Swamp
I didn't look on after that, since I had to leave home for a while (went to my dad's house, where there isn't an N64 or emulator.) I stopped aftre checking Freezeezy Peak.

That was all I found different. Nothing different with the Lair. I recommend checking out these place more thoroughly:

Spiral Mountain (Banjo's House)
Mumbo's Mountain
Clanker's Cavern
Bubble Gloop Swamp

That's all I got, but, after the weekend, I will look for more! :)

Ultima Manic 18th June 2005 09:46 PM

Well, it sounds kind of far fetched, but not as bad as my ex-friend's Fungus Forest. ;) I'll do it! :D

DevilBottles 18th June 2005 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima Manic
Well, it sounds kind of far fetched, but not as bad as my ex-friend's Fungus Forest. ;)

who me? or someone elses post?

Ultima Manic 18th June 2005 09:49 PM

I mean your story sounds strange......and remember Fungus Forest issue? :(

DevilBottles 18th June 2005 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima Manic
I mean your story sounds strange......and remember Fungus Forest issue? :(

no... was that the thread with the possible connection?

Ultima Manic 18th June 2005 09:55 PM

Yes. My point is that the Fungus Forest thing was far fetched and it turned out to be fake. I will never forgive him. No offense to you but if your messing with us........I have an Ice Key left over. :mazza

hatrickpatrick 18th June 2005 10:05 PM

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Spiral Mountain (Banjo's House)
Mumbo's Mountain
Clanker's Cavern
Bubble Gloop Swamp
That is indeed bizarre... Anyone noticed that those levels are the oners without any secrets? That, my friend, could be a fairly big discovery...

Ultima Manic 18th June 2005 10:07 PM

I'm in! :D

mrfleshcadge 18th June 2005 10:08 PM

The thing with the ice key going thru the wall.. well I noticed that the other day in Nabnuts house. Go on to the shelf to the right of his bed and it will go thru banjo.

Ultima Manic 18th June 2005 10:14 PM

Maybe it melts?

Mumbo Dumbo 19th June 2005 12:14 AM

Wow... maybe this going through walls stuff is just a glitch

Tachi 19th June 2005 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultima Manic
Yes. My point is that the Fungus Forest thing was far fetched and it turned out to be fake. I will never forgive him. No offense to you but if your messing with us........I have an Ice Key left over. :mazza

Know what that's called?

It's called being a hypocrite.

The difference between what you did and what he did is that he actually did it himself instead of getting it from a friend.

Sorry if I sound rude, but hypocricy is one of my pet peeves. :3

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Now, onto other, more important things. Good finds, DB.

After watching the speed run for BK (Check the thread "I just played the best game in the world..."), I noticed a few things that brought questions to mind.

In MMM, the organ that the hand plays, after you get the jiggie from him, can you hit the keys, and will it play the same note if you hit the same key?

I'm sure most've you know where I'm getting. I'm a pianist, so yeah. If anyone could tell me if the keys play the notes a regular piano/organ plays, I may be able to start testing out some things.

One of those theories is using the organ to unlock the eggs in MMM. But I'm not sure if the organ plays the right notes.

G'day from the wuff. <3

DevilBottles 19th June 2005 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hatrickpatrick
That is indeed bizarre... Anyone noticed that those levels are the oners without any secrets? That, my friend, could be a fairly big discovery...

sweet... i might have discovered something :D
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Originally Posted by Ultima Manic
Yes. My point is that the Fungus Forest thing was far fetched and it turned out to be fake. I will never forgive him. No offense to you but if your messing with us........I have an Ice Key left over. :mazza

im seriously not... i own a digital camera! want proof?
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Originally Posted by mrfleshcadge
The thing with the ice key going thru the wall.. well I noticed that the other day in Nabnuts house. Go on to the shelf to the right of his bed and it will go thru banjo.

actually, how could it go through Banjo? i was talking about C-up...
plus... a never mind :confused:

Ultima Manic 19th June 2005 08:16 AM

I know make a RWP like video of it! That would be so cool!

mrfleshcadge 19th June 2005 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DevilBottles
actually, how could it go through Banjo? i was talking about C-up...plus... a never mind :confused:

I was giving another example of it gong thru things. I think it can go thru anything.

Ultima Manic 19th June 2005 02:04 PM

That's cos it melts. Well it would make sense woudn't it? It is an ICE Key. :D

Tachi 19th June 2005 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima Manic
That's cos it melts. Well it would make sense woudn't it? It is an ICE Key. :D

...What good would it do if it melts?

Still need confirmation of the organ in MMM~. Anyooone~?

hatrickpatrick 19th June 2005 06:04 PM

The organ plays along with the level music, I'm afraid

Tachi 19th June 2005 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hatrickpatrick
The organ plays along with the level music, I'm afraid

Aah, that sucks.

I didn't think Rare would program the key notes, anyway. xD Regular notes, sharps, flats, ect. Ah well. Back to searching. *Flaunts.*

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tachi
...What good would it do if it melts?

Good point.

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 04:08 PM

About MMM, i'm told some MMM music plays in the intro (when you start a new game) but when? I've never noticed........ :confused:

mrfleshcadge 20th June 2005 05:38 PM

When kazooie is trying to wake banjo up when tootie is gettign kidnaped.

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 06:02 PM

I don't recognise it.......whereabouts in MMM? :confused:

mrfleshcadge 20th June 2005 06:04 PM

What do you mean?

hatrickpatrick 20th June 2005 06:06 PM

It's the main level theme...

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 06:08 PM

No it isn't.......Not in my version anyway. In mine, it plays a slower remix of the Grunty battle.

hatrickpatrick 20th June 2005 06:28 PM

yes, and then right after that you can hear the MMM theme played super fast and youi also hear bangs and whams and such, then bottles goes "help, she's got her" or something along those lines

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 06:36 PM

Still no.......Ah well who cares its only music. :)

hatrickpatrick 20th June 2005 06:42 PM

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Ah well who cares its only music.
As a guitarist, I find that remark in very bad taste ;)

mrfleshcadge 20th June 2005 06:53 PM

ITS ONLY MUSIC!!!!????? You should be shot!

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 07:08 PM

Hey! I love the music too! *Dances to Grunty's Furnace Fun* I just can't hear MMM music so I don't find it important. But if you mind that much get me an mp3 of it!

DevilBottles 20th June 2005 08:02 PM

Bad News H.P. (:p)

Well, I was going to go check to see if any of the other worlds text color changes, but, unfortunately, Mad Monster Mansion and Rusty Bucket Bay had different colored text.... So much for my discovery....

But, I noticed something. In MMM, I went into the cellar, which is the place where the cyan egg is. When I got down there, the text changed back to normal! It went from the different color (orange) to the normal color (blue) when I went down and checked! I don't know if this means anything, but hey, it ... is color changing :p

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 08:05 PM

But then, what about the Ice Key............Why did it go through the wall? That has to be something.......... :mazza

DevilBottles 20th June 2005 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima Manic
But then, what about the Ice Key............Why did it go through the wall? That has to be something.......... :mazza

btw, i also found out that the ice key goes "through" the chest in Blackeye's room in MMM, plus the pic of Blackeye in his room does the same thing

Ultima Manic 20th June 2005 08:15 PM

Oh so it's a glitch then? Well then that's ok. Strange glitch though......... :mazza

DevilBottles 20th June 2005 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultima Manic
Oh so it's a glitch then? Well then that's ok. Strange glitch though......... :mazza

yes, very strange... :mazza

Gaming Master2k 20th June 2005 10:21 PM

It's not really a strange glitch. You have something that rotates in 3D, If you are too close to an object it will rotate through it. It would be too long a pointless to code in that if they key hits something don't make it go through it.

VGFreakMak 21st June 2005 02:03 AM

If there are indeed two "fake" eggs, it's pretty obvious what one of them is: The Red egg. Obviously it has no place in the game. Also the music that plays in the captain's room(once the egg appears) is the same music as inside Sharkfood Island. Sure all the SnS item themes are similar, but each has subtle differences, except for the red and pink eggs. So since they just recycled an existing track for this egg alone, this egg must be fake. I could say the same for the green egg, but I'm not 100% sure if its music is the same as the cyan egg's music.

DevilBottles 21st June 2005 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VGFreakMak
If there are indeed two "fake" eggs, it's pretty obvious what one of them is: The Red egg. Obviously it has no place in the game. Also the music that plays in the captain's room(once the egg appears) is the same music as inside Sharkfood Island. Sure all the SnS item themes are similar, but each has subtle differences, except for the red and pink eggs. So since they just recycled an existing track for this egg alone, this egg must be fake. I could say the same for the green egg, but I'm not 100% sure if its music is the same as the cyan egg's music.

you have a good point there... i would need to check out the green egg... but one thing is for cetain... either the cyan or the green egg is the other fake one. why do i say this? because they r on the same level! no other egg is on the same level, duh! :rolleyes:


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