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krueger14 7th February 2006 06:46 PM

Where is the key???

Go_Nosis 7th February 2006 07:41 PM

In the image modifier codes for Donkey Kong 64.

freakycheato 7th February 2006 08:12 PM

and donkey kong 64s instruction book has that whole 'secret level' rambling by cranky kong- i refuse to believe it is girder grapple for many reasons.

collecter 7th February 2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freakycheato
and donkey kong 64s instruction book has that whole 'secret level' rambling by cranky kong- i refuse to believe it is girder grapple for many reasons.

Girder Grapple is a level from the original DK. There is a lever in the factory stage that let's you play the original DK......but what is the "scroll of gameplay" he talks about in the manual?

Ice Lightning 7th February 2006 09:15 PM

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Could someone answer my last post please, as I still have no idea about the answer to it.

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Originally Posted by Me
Something I've always wondered is, that if when they made Grunty's lair in BT they got BK's lair, deleted everything and added a few rocks to make it look like it's been demolished, then why are the pictures of Grunty different in Bk and BT?

See attached images. I've labeled a picture to show what I think the different things are in it.
I'll post the attachments for a second time as well.

Banjo-Fella 7th February 2006 10:09 PM

Alright, this is what's going on with Grunty's portrait - at least, as far as I can tell. Firstly, in Banjo-Kazooie, the Grunty's portrait image is divided up into four tiles, as the N64 had an unfortunate problem with its texture storage space, and developers had to come up with ways around this in order to display larger images with more clarity. If you were to view the portrait in the wireframe rendering mode of any emulator - you'd clearly see the divide where the different tiles meet.

Now, in Banjo-Tooie, instead of having the normal Grunty portrait in Banjo-Kazooie, which only comprised of four square polygonal shapes stuck together side by side - you've got the more complicated shape of the ripped portrait. As a result, it became much more difficult for Rare to texture on all of the four Grunty's portrait tiles onto that shape. As a result, they could only use one tile on it - and they just chose one of the tiles. Which looks a bit odd - and they could have just made a blurrier version of the entire portrait, which would have made more sense - but there you go.

Perhaps this animation will help clarify, if my incessant rambling isn't coherent. Which it's not.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ysportrait.gif

Alternatively - IT WAS TEH STOP AND SWAPS, GUYS.

ChillyDark 7th February 2006 10:19 PM

Interesting Banjo-Fella I never thought of it but as long as RWPF satys alive we won't stop searching for stop n swop unless it is found to be fake!

Banjo-Fella 7th February 2006 10:34 PM

If by "fake" you mean "nonexistant" or "existant but in a form most people don't really like" - then I've got some grave news for you, m'boy... ;)

ChillyDark 7th February 2006 10:37 PM

Don't tell me I think I know what it is.

Icy Guy 8th February 2006 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by collecter
Girder Grapple is a level from the original DK. There is a lever in the factory stage that let's you play the original DK......but what is the "scroll of gameplay" he talks about in the manual?

The "scroll of gameplay" is a joke. Throughout Rare's DK games, Cranky has always criticized their quality, and he continues the tradition in DK64.

krueger14 8th February 2006 12:30 AM

That has nothing to do with SnS

ChillyDark 8th February 2006 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by krueger14
That has nothing to do with SnS

He was just saying that Grinder could be linked to Stop N Swop but I doubt it!
Edit: 1500 posts woah

dmoss 8th February 2006 03:17 AM

Banjo-Fella - That was ingenious, my friend. May I say that that was the most intelligent post I've seen in this thread since at least page 62. I commend thee. How did you come by that Grunty-pic reasoning? I never could have made that connection, however, I did see the 4 tiles, seconds before it was mentioned...Nice job, indeed! Please accept this certificate, and this 78-year old bar of chocolate. Nice to see someone's mind actually work in this topic, other than Hatrick, GM2K, and BenjoKoolzooie! I'll climb off of the Soap Box now...;)

freakycheato 8th February 2006 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by freakycheato
just got home from school with a theory! snacker the shark is in rusty bucket bay, maybe theres a secret passage or something from ttc to rbb which had something to do with SnS... AND... rbb's textures look similar to that of the door near GI, maybe its where the link actually happened.

Edit: Woo Hoo 100 pages!!!

Could Someone please answer my question

ChillyDark 8th February 2006 03:55 AM

Freaky Cheato I was just about to so anyway I guess you could be right about that maybe there is if so then Ice and SubDrag could find is easily!

dmoss 8th February 2006 04:01 AM

Nice way to put it, Chilly Dark...however:

Pleez downt uze CAP5 freeekeecheeetOO!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!

If you remain patient and ask in a kind voice, someone will get to you. If not, re-approach your question in a different way. That way, someone can help you more efficiently. Thank you. :)

freakycheato 8th February 2006 04:12 AM

another door in bt that gets 2 me is the door in the drill on the ice side of hailfire peaks

ChillyDark 8th February 2006 05:28 AM

Maybe it was suppossed to lead somewhere but Nintendo didn't like the idea and removed it.

freakycheato 8th February 2006 05:38 AM

they seem 2 ruin all the fun, dont they

Crystal Jinjo 8th February 2006 06:03 AM

Something just occured to me, what if the Eggs represnt a Letter and clues to getting them in the right order began with the letter, first think of a 6 letter word about the game banjo-Kazooie, The word that came to my mind was GRUNTY

now with each egg as a letter, using the letters of her name to start a clue to the eggs:-

Egg 1 - G = Gobi's Door.
Egg 2 - R = Rusty Bucket.
Egg 3 - U = U-Bend (a Toilet part)
Egg 4 - N = Nabnuts Table
Egg 5 - T = Treasure Cave
Egg 6 - Y = Year 1881 (Barrel)

its probably a silly theory but what do you think?

freakycheato 8th February 2006 06:09 AM

its farfetched but maybe

Banjo-Fella 8th February 2006 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dmoss
Banjo-Fella - That was ingenious, my friend. May I say that that was the most intelligent post I've seen in this thread since at least page 62. I commend thee. How did you come by that Grunty-pic reasoning?

Woo! Thank you kindly, sir. Actually - for weeks I didn't know what was going on with that Grunty portrait, but then, after visiting the Lair again a few weeks later - it suddenly dawned on me. :p

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Originally Posted by dmoss
Please accept this certificate, and this 78-year old bar of chocolate.

YES. FOOD.

Incidentally, if you light up Grunty's Old Lair with a fire egg or Dragon Kazooie's breath - you'll see that the colours of the portrait are actually the same - only they're currently being darkened by the dynamic lighting.

freakycheato 8th February 2006 07:51 AM

i dont understand what youre talking about with the grunty portrait

crosseyes 8th February 2006 12:40 PM

good theory crystal jinjo! Have you tried using the original names to see if you could make a word? That would be:
Sharkfood island
Loggo (because I really doubt it could be U-bend)
Gobi's door
Cellar
Wozza's cave
Captain's cabin
Nabnut's table

But, due to the lack of vowels....have you tried the actual names?

Pink egg
Blue egg
Green egg
Cyan egg
Red egg
Ice key
Yellow egg

Still very little vowels though. It's a good theory though, and it could be something like that.

Banjo-Fella 8th February 2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by freakycheato
i dont understand what youre talking about with the grunty portrait

Allow me to help you, then - by means of the flailing of a large, blunt instrument of mass physical trauma.

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Originally Posted by freakycheato
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Originally Posted by freakocheato
just got home from school with a theory! snacker the shark is in rusty bucket bay, maybe theres a secret passage or something from ttc to rbb which had something to do with SnS... AND... rbb's textures look similar to that of the door near GI, maybe its where the link actually happened.

Could Someone please answer my question

There isn't any secret passage from Treasure Trove Cove to Rusty Bucket Bay. There, are you happy now?

ChillyDark 8th February 2006 09:00 PM

I feel the truth of stop N swop will be reavealed I also hope it won't be like finding the Triforce in Zelda Oot (ocarina of time for you newbies)

ChrisPBacon 8th February 2006 11:34 PM

Yay! I get to be first to say happy one year aniversery of this thread. We have made progress, and soon SnS will be discovered or proved non existant. Although this is going back some time, someone said that blackeye couldn't have anything to do with the rusty bucket, as the code says trip on grunty's rust ship, but not all owners are captains, and not all captains own their ships. There could/may have been a connection between blackeye and RBB, hence the X on sharkfood island, but I dont think so. Just a thought though.

DemyGod 8th February 2006 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChillyDark
I feel the truth of stop N swop will be reavealed I also hope it won't be like finding the Triforce in Zelda Oot (ocarina of time for you newbies)

What do you mean like finding it? Did they? I thought it was in the beta version.

ChillyDark 9th February 2006 12:06 AM

No nintendo said it all was fraud and at this site http://internal.tbi.net/~max/zelda64.htm it is all reavealed by Video Gamer X!

Yuoko 9th February 2006 02:07 AM

Moon Jump + Zelda's Courtyard. It's in Beta Quest, but I haven't tried it in Normal. It's just the Triforce on Link's hand...

Anyway, if we find much of anything, I'm convinced it'll be in Banjo-Tooie...

ChillyDark 9th February 2006 03:30 AM

Yeah you can see it under the courtyard in Beta but you can't get it
Facts about SNS (some like 5-9 re just theories that might not be true)
1. The Jinjo Village rocks have nothing to do with SNS they are just part of the Digger Tunnel
2. Neither do the boulders in Wooded Holllow
3. There might be some hidden dtat in the memeiry we haven't searched yet and it holds the codes for SNS
4. Nintendo didn't like the fact of SNS and might have removed it but Rare still left clues in the data
5. There is a hidden sandcastle code that allows Grunty's Picture to become a portal
6. Entering that portal would result in time travel sort of and you would meet cheato
7. Cheato would tell you a special cheat that allows you to get the pic in the present to fix
8. Enter the picture to complete SNS
9. It would unlock a special feature in tooie
That is my theorie feel free to give feedback!

freakycheato 9th February 2006 04:06 AM

has anyone noticed there r only 90 jiggies in bt when there were 100 in bk? i did, but it didnt mean much until i remembered in bk Gruntys lair has 10 jiggies! maybe thats where u get the missing 10 jiggies

ChillyDark 9th February 2006 04:35 AM

Maybe Rare was lazy and only put in 90 because they were tired and needed to work on CBFD, GE and GBTG and GR!

freakycheato 9th February 2006 04:48 AM

maybe but that doesnt sound like rare... still, youre probably right.

ChillyDark 9th February 2006 05:07 AM

Rare is a pair of jokers who like toying with other peoples minds with Canary Mary in Cloud Cookoo Land and so on it's just so annoying!

freakycheato 9th February 2006 05:10 AM

thats them... by the way how do u use the clockwork kazooie eggs to sneak past the rocks in gruntildas lair?

ChillyDark 9th February 2006 05:12 AM

Easy just walk near the right or left of the lair and look for a little hole and then you will see a hole and fire the egg near the hole and sneak as Clock work Kazooie then you will find nothing!

freakycheato 9th February 2006 05:13 AM

thanks

ChillyDark 9th February 2006 05:25 AM

Your welcome!

freakycheato 9th February 2006 05:27 AM

i know this is crazy but do u think the door near grunty industries leads to rusty bucket bay?


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