I am saying that I am a Rare whore.. I like their games alot (or used to)

But oh ok, so its pitch black. I bet thats what they were intended for though. ^_^

Is there anything weird about the coding like removed chunks?

The only thing really weird is how the Beta version also has doors with knockers like that. One of the doors you can walk through and still be able to stand before walking into the blackness, but that has been confirmed to be there so Klungo can enter. The other door is said to lead to nowhere on the spot and has no platform to stand on after it.

Pretty much everything so far has been discussed in the same forum, people should start reading instead of posting on the spot. Has anyone "new" read all of it yet? I challenge you to before even posting, too much random talk. I am not posting here anymore until I find something new or someone else finds something.

121 pages? I got to 16 then got bored and played Banjo Tooie... :banjo :kazooie

Mr 3vil i am currently going through all the pages in this thread and summarising all the theory's with answers and wether they have been solved or not i'm up to page 45 but its a long task and very boring not to mention time consuming, so i don't think we can expect new people to read all the pages. I'm going to post it when im finished but i have no idea when that will be.

good job skill sphere when your finished id like to see that list

I just found something interesting in the ROMs.

Using the Project 64 emulator, I made a Save State on the box floating near Sharkfood Island in Kazooie. Then I loaded it in Jolly's Inn in Tooie. I was in the area around Sharkfood Island loaded and I was in control of Banjo for a few seconds before the game froze (but the emulator didn't crash). I did this multiple times, with the same result. Then I stepped outside Jolly's Inn and loaded the state. This time, the area around Sharkfood Island loaded, but froze immediatly. The emulator then crashed.

Try doing that somewhere else and if it doesn't crash, we know that it has something to do with being near Blackeye.

It's just a glitch.

It must be just a glitch... The same freezing of the game at TTT, but not crashing, happened in Hailfire Peaks.

I still find it odd that it works every time at Jolly's Inn, though...

even if it is just a glitch....Ive got an idea, try loading a save state of banjo in the first room of gruntys lair while in that same room in tooie in tooie its where cheato is just ioncase you dident know

You are stupid. It's logical game-behaviour. You are in BT and load the BK-Save. Now, that BK-Save (which has everything on screen stored in RAM, mind you!) works until it's required to load anything, in which case it loads something wrong (the thing that is on the same offset in the ROM as the real data would be, be it a sound-effect, a texture, level-data or something else) and then probably crashes because of that. Heck, you can load a Super Mario Advance-Savestate in, let's say, Final Fantasy IV, and it would work for a split-second. *sigh*

Well i agree with you there, however its just a possiblility to check into , im a game designer mself so i know what your saying so please bare with us while we exhaust every possiblity

Now, now. Let's not get hasty, guys...

-:banjo

well said

Alright enough bickering. If were gonna solve SNS we need to learn to work with eachother. Not trying to sound all happy giddy, just don't want to start any flames.

You guys arent going to solve SNS because...

There is no SNS. Atleast not anymore.

They took it out. Well the functionality of it. So what if they didnt bother to take it out of the game.

They tried to compensate by putting stupid little BK paks in Banjo tooie.

Its thats simple. I solved SNS. :eek:

Searching through all the coding isnt going to do anything, you guys have been doing this for 8 years and found.... nothing :confused:

Go away.

I gladly will. It's just weird people still are spending all this time hacking the coding, expecting to find it working.

Its just not there guys.

yeah what he said

Enjoy wasting all that time searching for something that isnt there.

Its cool, making theorys on what it could've been, or theorys on how it wouldve worked or etc but hacking the game to hell, when its already been hacked to hell, and after searching for 8 years, its time to move on.

That was so funny that I almost forgot to laugh. Personally, you have a few right points here and there; but, that doesn't give you the right to stop others from searching or believing. We all have our own opinions, but we should stick to facts. Not to mention you are about to start a flame war, I am sure a lot of us have heard others say this already and seriously, it doesn't help at all. Let people believe what they want to believe.

Also, Stop and Swop is there. It exists and if it really isn't there then nobody would have found it. You may say that we are searching for something that doesn't work anymore, but not something that isn't there. Your usage of the english language is poor.

Now, back on topic. I haven't found anything at all yet, but if there might be anything that involves SnS it would be the picture of Grunty. It has four panels and BT uses only one with a secret room behind it. The BK one could have just used one panel for that picture, why use four?

What you guys are searching for is SNS to work!

I didnt say they didnt leave the eggs and ice key in, or etc. Thats not what you are searching for. Your searching for SNS to work.

And how would you know? I personally searching for the BK end, since Rare wouldn't have left it in there. And if you want to flame us, everyone else shouldn't care.

BANNANAS! Everbody loves BANNANAS!

Well, it may be true that it isn't there anymore and that we won't ever find it, but if we completely gave up on SNS, what else would we tlak about that has something to do with BK? I mean we have had countless threads of What is your favorite character/world/song/game/boss/everything! But then what? BK would probably die. And then this forum would no longer be about what it was supposed to be about. Banjo-Kazooie. I'm just stating that facts. I'm not saying we haven't milked SNS (or Banjo-Kazooie series for that matter) dry and we couldn't possibly find anything else. And I'm not saying there isn't anything else to find. So, if not SNS, what?

EDIT- Oops. Several other people posted before I finished this post. It was supposed to go after:

Well, I have a good project everyone can work on instead of SNS... what about we download the ROMS of BK and BT, just to rip music off it and make a complete MP3 collection for them?

I think that would be really cool!

That belongs in another topic.

What the hey? lol, you also double posted. :p

??? No I didn't. swopandstop deleted his post.

I dunno, searching for SnS is a bit tiresome, although the theories never get old!
We should look for Bottles' Revenge WITHOUT game shark or Action replay

Alrighty then let me clear this sh!t up

1. Were not actually trying to get SNS to work Stopandstop what were tring to do is find the trigger located in BK that starts/continues/ends SNS we know that there is one because SNS was going to work after BK was released, think about if it wasn't going to work then they would have took out the 100% ending.

Here is what you have to think SNS was spose to be started in BT then be caried over to BK but if that was the case then what is ment to happen then? Do you switch back to BT (which would seem pointless) or do they unlock something that must be already in BK's memory if this is the case then we should be able to find this part.

Hope this helps you Stop and swop, and if it doesn't then <Go Away*> because i can't be bothered with your sh!t but it doesn't matter because you will get banned soon enough

*:gm2k EDIT: Edit a little phrase due to a report on the post.

...He'll get banned???

^If he keeps his bullsh!t attitude up i would think so, voicing your opinion is one thing but coming to this forum and posting stuff like "i've been here for a few weeks and even though you guys have done reseach for years i'm right and your wrong" sorry but to me that is what it sounded like to me know enough is enough lets get back to work.

Recap me on a few things what theory are we working on at the moment? Is there a way of proving it False or ture. I am getting a bit worried about things in this thread as i have been doing the notes on it i have notice that Hatrickpatrick is gone along with all the grandmaster hackers or at least they have stoped coming to this thread.

Well, now people just are saying that we should comb the entiret of the code for anything. I think that we should look specifically for bits that have to do with item collection.

Oww really is that what is going on, i would leave that as a last resort i mean thats a really, really big task if there is any great hacker still coming here what we need is a cutsceen viewer that would give us alot of info. So i'd be seaching for that.

If you don't want to search for SNS, that's fine. But if we want to, that's our business and there's no point in trying to convince us otherwise.

Besides, this is the most popular topic on RWP, do you really think you'll convince everybody to just stop searching?

lol. You guys take it too personally.

Whatever. You guys keep searching and dreaming on. o-O

Im not going to get banned spoiling your fantasies telling you there is nothing to be found, because there isnt. Isnt 8 years enough searching?

You can get banned for telling me to "***** off" though, Im assuming. :D

Also, I havent been here a few weeks, Ive been visiting this site a couple of years but never bothered to post. I finally registered though. Its just gotten old seeing people still search for this. ^_^

Well, if you want it to stop, make Rare tell us what SNS was supposed to do.

The homing eggs cheat, the bregull basher move and jinjo as a multiplayer character of course... :rolleyes:

;)

I agree with your sig, Sphere.
But, I digress...
We really aren't making much progress, are we?