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hatrickpatrick 2nd May 2006 09:29 PM

Ok sorry again but I didn't get a chance, I promise I'll try and do it in a day or two though...

I gotta apologize for my general inconsistency and absense in general over the last couple of months... My life got a bit chaotic, I was insanely busy with general mayhem (you know how it goes, etc etc etc) and with what being what I just haven't been around much...

I'll start into that cutscene mod tomorrow. Maybe I'd be betgtger off leaving the bulk of it until the weekend when I should have a lot of time. Most of the chaos is over now so with a bit of luck I'll be here as much as I used to be.

ChillyDark 2nd May 2006 10:46 PM

Good luck Hatrick we are all rooting for ya. ;)
Oh and good job with the theory that was good solid proof, I think it is possible.

kazooieguy 2nd May 2006 11:03 PM

yep good luck

ChillyDark 2nd May 2006 11:14 PM

That SNS RWP video was good because of his description I've been surfing RWP since 2004 but not the forums.
I really want to see that.
The topic is below. http://www.rarewitchproject.com/foru...ighlight=Video
Perhapes Gold could host it with his server, or GM2K.

kazooieguy 2nd May 2006 11:16 PM

really chilly? I thoght you were the forum type of guy I see you around here alot

ChillyDark 3rd May 2006 02:36 AM

I was banned back then from forums then I was unbanned. (not IP Banned or regular banned)
Back on topic: I could probably help hatrick although my version is NTSC BT I think then we can convert it to PAL.
I'm going to start now.
Well actually I'm going to try with my rom. (emucheat)

kazooieguy 4th May 2006 01:51 AM

ahhh I see alright well good luck you guys to all

DemyGod 4th May 2006 07:56 PM

Yes, Good Luck. Good luck to you allllllllllllllllllll.

GameandWatch33 5th May 2006 04:27 PM

Yeah, it's too bad everything i've worked on has been NTSC.

Hopefully hatrick will lead us in a new direction and get us out of this slump.

kazooieguy 5th May 2006 07:34 PM

I hope so

icegod 7th May 2006 06:27 PM

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I might found something intresting....

I was playing BK, and decided to investigate bubblegloop swamp.

In the room where the tiptups where (inside the gaint turtle), I turned on the wireframe settings to see if there's anything behind the walls, and it seems there is. It seems like some kind of entrance below the ground? Take a look at the pictures, you'll see what I mean. I took another picture to to prove it's not part of a wall or something.

Sorry if this was allready discovered.

Theguyoverthere 7th May 2006 07:53 PM

Interesting.... Pehaps a mumbo token or notes that have already been picked up, yet it still leaves some sort of trace that they WERE there?

icegod 7th May 2006 07:56 PM

weird thing is that if you move around you see that it is right bellow the entrance! I don't think it's some kind of mumbo token, caus it doesn't have the shape for it....

kazooieguy 7th May 2006 08:01 PM

I knwo what it is, all it is, is a marking for the warp. The warp too the swamp, as well as the place where your droped off. I bet thats all it is

icegod 7th May 2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kazooieguy
I knwo what it is, all it is, is a marking for the warp. The warp too the swamp, as well as the place where your droped off. I bet thats all it is

I don't know, I looked at other doors and non of the other doors have something like that...

kazooieguy 7th May 2006 08:48 PM

hmmm. mabey im wrong then, it could jsut be s simple graphic error or something they added by accident and dident see in beta becasue its under the floor

icegod 7th May 2006 10:42 PM

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I managed to glitch my camera so I could see what the mistery object was... It seems like it is a piece of wall. But why would there be a piece of wall down there?

Dylan Yoshi 7th May 2006 11:12 PM

Sorry to change the subject... But activate the 100% completion code and levitate codes for BK. Levitate through the ceiling above Dingpot and defeat Grunty. During the cast list, any character that is permanently removed from the game after you complete its challenges (like Motzand or the Tip Tup Choir) won't show up. However, the glass jar in the puzzle inside the shack of MMM is still there, with the Jiggy under it. Any reason this would happen?

icegod 7th May 2006 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowman
I think I know what it is when you play gruntys board game, their is a
mini game where you have to do the tip tup choir game and the door is
blocked by something the same texture as the door shaped thing under
the floor. I thought they used dynamic doors in the whole game, but it
looks like they used placed doors that move into place when triggered. (By
dynamic ) I mean doors that are loaded from outside the level. The placed
door method is much more primitive.

That's my theory what do you guys think?


I think your right. Would make sence why it has the exact same shape as the door.

ChillyDark 7th May 2006 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan Yoshi
Sorry to change the subject... But activate the 100% completion code and levitate codes for BK. Levitate through the ceiling above Dingpot and defeat Grunty. During the cast list, any character that is permanently removed from the game after you complete its challenges (like Motzand or the Tip Tup Choir) won't show up. However, the glass jar in the puzzle inside the shack of MMM is still there, with the Jiggy under it. Any reason this would happen?

Because it isn't 100% complete just missing some Jiggies like the one in the shack, the one in Loggo etc.
Also Icegod your theory is interesting, it could be some secret item.
Probably not SNS though.

kazooieguy 8th May 2006 02:06 AM

Hey I had a thought today, the GBTG borad says ice key then 4 eggs? well I think that order is or was Blue Green Pink Yellow. Why? Because of something that everyone sees nearly everytime they play. the Jinjos!

They are ordered on the screen bottom as Blue Green orenge pink yellow, so what if we remove yellow and BAM theres the order?

Sorry folks if it sounds stupid but im tired and have waaaay too much free time. lol =)

DevilBottles 8th May 2006 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazooieguy
Hey I had a thought today, the GBTG borad says ice key then 4 eggs? well I think that order is or was Blue Green Pink Yellow. Why? Because of something that everyone sees nearly everytime they play. the Jinjos!

They are ordered on the screen bottom as Blue Green orenge pink yellow, so what if we remove orange and BAM theres the order?

Sorry folks if it sounds stupid but im tired and have waaaay too much free time. lol =)

:p

Well, to me, it'd seem like there would be no point of having the orange Jinjo then. It would probably make more sense if either the unneeded Jinjo left, or they just made a whole new egg entirely, and put that one in the order. But, since that doesn't appear in-game, that just doesn't work, now does it? o-O

Really, I'm not sure why most people believe that some eggs are "trick eggs." First off, Rare didn't have much intention of canning Stop 'N' Swop before it actually happened, yes? So, why would they just add more eggs? They probaby thought their secret was safe, until Ice and Sub came along and cracked the codes, but the game was already long released, so they couldn't do anything about changing the eggs.

Grabbed By the Ghoulies came out after SnS was discovered by RWP, did it not? That's only when the hidden, ridiculous hints started appearing. Really, in my mind, this "clue" is just meant to lead us away from SnS.

Only four eggs? Yeah.... All the eggs had to be used. Why make them? Like said before, Rare had no intention of the project getting canned, and they had no idea that Ice and Sub would came along and hack the codes. So, they, really, wouldn't have to trick anyone who didn't know about the eggs, correct?

The pictures of the two eggs and key in the secret ending cut-scene, to me, was like a preview, like mentioned on BoltDragoon's site. Or, it could've been there to hint toward SnS, but Rare totally forgot to remove this cutscene after the actual SnS was canned shortly before BK's released.

Eh... Just my thoughts. Just so I can get it off my chest. :p

kazooieguy 8th May 2006 02:47 AM

like I said im tired , your prolly right bottles

maypep_necro 8th May 2006 08:59 PM

^_^
 
I remember when i was young, i found the key and 3 eggs. Only 1 left is red. But now i play Bottle beta mode ^_^

And thanks for the code for eggs.

EDIT: i found out how to get the ice key in Banjo-Kazooie. You don't even need one of those shark gameplay thingys! just put some eggs in the fire, hit wozza with 200 eggs. then the fire will rise. keep on repaeting this. soon the fire will be really high. then hit the fire with another 200 eggs. then it will follow you. then jump up to the ice wall where the key is behind it. run into the wall. then it should be melted! then go to the igloo. stand on the table and press c to look at the piture of banjo kazooie. then a door apears with the key. press nothing. wait really still. then the nintendo will put the key in. you should apear in a ice world. sorry, but i can't give you anymore informationa.

maypep_necro 8th May 2006 10:42 PM

I just saw a picture of SNS. See it! http://www.eeggs.com/items/24641.html

Sorry for double post.

icegod 8th May 2006 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maypep_necro
EDIT: i found out how to get the ice key in Banjo-Kazooie. You don't even need one of those shark gameplay thingys! just put some eggs in the fire, hit wozza with 200 eggs. then the fire will rise. keep on repaeting this. soon the fire will be really high. then hit the fire with another 200 eggs. then it will follow you. then jump up to the ice wall where the key is behind it. run into the wall. then it should be melted! then go to the igloo. stand on the table and press c to look at the piture of banjo kazooie. then a door apears with the key. press nothing. wait really still. then the nintendo will put the key in. you should apear in a ice world. sorry, but i can't give you anymore informationa.

Please don't spam this thread with this BS.

maypep_necro 9th May 2006 12:00 AM

Sorry, i just picked it on a website. And look on that website:

http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/...true#M14727523

I done the 100% game below 6h and when i play jukebox with this oder, it does notthing. It is fake?

DevilBottles 9th May 2006 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maypep_necro
Sorry, i just picked it on a website. And look on that website:

http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/...true#M14727523

I done the 100% game below 6h and when i play jukebox with this oder, it does notthing. It is fake?

Oh. My. God. o-O

You have two options. First, scroll to the bottom of the post you linked too.

Secondly, look here.

maypep_necro 9th May 2006 02:16 AM

On both, step 2 don't work;

2. Go to the Jukebox. Play the tracks "Shopping Around Town", "Theme Park Hags", and "Party At Bottles'" in that order. Blackeye will go on about how it is his favorite ensemble and tell you stuff like about how you’re lucky you finished as quickly as you did else he wouldn’t have been able to remember about it.

When i play the jukebox in that order, Blackeye's don't go on.

Theguyoverthere 9th May 2006 02:45 AM

Ummm....Should I tell him? Nah, I'll just let the post in front of him (post #2286) explain that.

maypep_necro 9th May 2006 02:54 AM

Common please, i want to discover that!

Theguyoverthere 9th May 2006 03:18 AM

Did you even read Devil Bottles' post? I'm sorry, I'll try to stay calm and help you out. It is an April Fool's Joke and is all fake and not real in any way, shape, or form. Maybe you should get my signature, it really comes in handy!;)

ChillyDark 9th May 2006 03:30 AM

I know we all want to discover SNS but you have to understand.
Don't believe everything you hear on the internet.
Sorry if I am being to harsh.

dmoss 9th May 2006 03:51 AM

Back on topic, please? :)

So, about that SnS...

-dmoss, :banjo

Theguyoverthere 9th May 2006 05:43 AM

OK I haven't seen a lot of waked-out, crazy, less-than-half-witted ideas in a long time. So, I'll start with one!

What about the Quiji board in MMM? What if it is a secret code room in which you can enter cheats? Sure, you could only use the letters Banjo Kazooie but what if the Grunty squares each hold a secret letter, going in a clockwise motion... And it all wasn't discovered by hackers because instead of programming "when GIVETHEBEARLOTSOFAIR" or whatever "is typed then air energy bar=6" or whatever. But they could have programmed a secret number to each square so it'd be like "If 12453168521 is typed then unlock SnS..." or somethin'

Just throwin' it out there!

Dricenticore 9th May 2006 08:58 AM

lol maypep necro. I cant believe you believed that.Now im never gonna tell you how to get the mysterious black egg you fool! It says put some eggs in the fire then hit wozza with 200 eggs. Now, that would mean you would need a max of at least 201 eggs. IMPOSSIBLE. also, it says repeat. make that 603 eggs. *falls off chair laughing* ow I landed on a battery.

Back on topic,TGOT, thats a pretty good idea but that would be pretty tight of rare if that was it.

Benjo Koolzooie 9th May 2006 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilBottles
:p

Really, I'm not sure why most people believe that some eggs are "trick eggs." First off, Rare didn't have much intention of canning Stop 'N' Swop before it actually happened, yes? So, why would they just add more eggs? They probaby thought their secret was safe, until Ice and Sub came along and cracked the codes, but the game was already long released, so they couldn't do anything about changing the eggs.

Grabbed By the Ghoulies came out after SnS was discovered by RWP, did it not? That's only when the hidden, ridiculous hints started appearing. Really, in my mind, this "clue" is just meant to lead us away from SnS.

Only four eggs? Yeah.... All the eggs had to be used. Why make them? Like said before, Rare had no intention of the project getting canned, and they had no idea that Ice and Sub would came along and hack the codes. So, they, really, wouldn't have to trick anyone who didn't know about the eggs, correct?

The pictures of the two eggs and key in the secret ending cut-scene, to me, was like a preview, like mentioned on BoltDragoon's site. Or, it could've been there to hint toward SnS, but Rare totally forgot to remove this cutscene after the actual SnS was canned shortly before BK's released.

Eh... Just my thoughts. Just so I can get it off my chest. :p

Ok, I agree! None of the eggs are tricks! They were all intended for collection on the original SNS. Rare thought their secrets would be safe, so why would they need "fake eggs". Don't even try and combat me here, seriously, it would not make sense for them to hide "fake" eggs. They were intended as a surprise, had SNS really gone ahead. (The surprise being that there are extra eggs, other than what Mumbo shown in the pictures).

Also, the board in Grabbed By The Ghoulies is simply a, can I say this? A Piss-take. Rare are well aware that people had devoted so much time to looking for SNS and a "secret level! The lava world", there is no doubt members of Rareware have seen posts on forums, and they have taken this in to account, and make jests about it within their games now. People, that should have been concentrating on homework, were busy thinking of SNS ideas at school, and Rare have picked up on this, and put it as "homework" on a school blackboard for a joke against these people. And the fact people had made searching for SNS their "homework" in general.

maypep_necro 9th May 2006 08:26 PM

Oh no! So i completed 100% game below 6h for nothing! Oh no!!

Theguyoverthere 10th May 2006 06:02 AM

You mean you actually did complete it in under 6 hours? WOW!

Anyway, this board seems to be dead. It seems like the Anything Goes board has takin over. We need more crazy theories. Bring 'em in, people, I'm listening!

Bottles98 10th May 2006 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theguyoverthere
Anyway, this board seems to be dead. It seems like the Anything Goes board has takin over. We need more crazy theories. Bring 'em in, people, I'm listening!

MORE crazy theories?! Are you kidding me? They're probably the reason people stop reading this board. Geez. You're setting the wrong example by saying that.


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