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Gaming Master2k 21st December 2005 10:57 AM

They were already there we just didn't know it. I found that the textures were all there.

I first noticed it as a glitch on my Emulator. In BK sometimes the egg will change it's colour (as I said a glitch with the plugin) and when I loaded up the base egg in BT I got the following 3 pics (going from yellow to another colour and back to yellow to repeat the cycle)

Yellow Egg
Green Egg
Pink Egg

I then used Rice's plugin to extract some textures and found the texture for the Red egg and Dark Blue egg as well.

What's wierd is last night I had a dream about SnS and the eggs were in BT and I was using them. This morning I woke up, decided to look at the game a bit and there they were.

Benjo Koolzooie 21st December 2005 11:16 AM

I've used the base egg code before, and as the egg moved about (it replaced an enemy), it flashed red,dark blue and maybe even cyan. I can't remember exactly what colours, but I am sure (in an unsure way!) that it did.

hatrickpatrick 21st December 2005 11:54 AM

http://gscentral.org/game.php?systemID=7&gameID=1187
That's the image mod for PAL BT, and according to that list, the base egg is in there too.

Unfortunatly the object mod doesnt work for the different eggs (at least in BK it doesnt)
What happens is this: the game checks what room you're in when you collect the base egg, and if you're in a room which has an egg (such as the cellar, for example), it records that you have the cyan egg. If you're in nabnut's house and change his bed into the base egg, you have the yellow egg. If you go into the captains cabin and change a grublin into the base egg, it's the red egg. The colour of the egg stays yellow, but the SnS screen records which colour you have.

So if we're going to ifnd out how to get the other eggs in BT, we're going to need to figure out where they're supposed to be...

nonetheless, great job GM! We finally have some proof that the other eggs are in BT.

Benjo Koolzooie 21st December 2005 12:46 PM

The thing is, how could you tell in BT? Since there is no SNS screen?

Ferminus 21st December 2005 02:15 PM

but in bt it were a place that showyou that you have the ice key and the blue and pink eggs... maybe there appears that you have the other eggs

Kotetsu 21st December 2005 03:33 PM

I was replaying BK recently, and I got to TTC. I was just going about as normal, I turn around, and I see sharkfood island risen. My heart stopped for a second, then I remembered the items were carried around from file to file.

On a productive note,
Has anyone noticed that the four inside eggs are a reverse rainbow? Or are their positions based on the order you got them?
Also, (I haven't beaten this game in years) does that big gruntilda picture in the main room have a purpose? Or is it just (supposedly) a decoration?

And in BT, I think that the eggs/ice key show up on the objects and items screen.

I read through the 71 pages of this yesterday, so it is consuming a large portion of my brain at the moment.

repobanjo 21st December 2005 06:40 PM

Yeah, it hurts to read that much.

Tip for the new ones: Before you sign up and you want to contribute here, read before you register, then join the next day. Or month. I chose mont, and when I started this, it was only on page 52!

So, I never did notice the "reverse rainbow" eggs in the SNS screen.

No, in the final copy of the game, the Grunty painting has no purpose, which goves me an idea.

Maybe, there was/is a way to put the eggs into Gruntys painting in BK. In BT, the painting is ripped open, and there ais barley anything there, save eggs and feather. So, its like it preserves the eggs for two years fo Banjo to open in BT!

Benjo Koolzooie 21st December 2005 07:46 PM

IN BT, the eggs collected are indicated by a number next to an image of the blue egg. That is all.

Gaming Master2k 21st December 2005 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hatrickpatrick
Unfortunatly the object mod doesnt work for the different eggs (at least in BK it doesnt)
What happens is this: the game checks what room you're in when you collect the base egg, and if you're in a room which has an egg (such as the cellar, for example), it records that you have the cyan egg. If you're in nabnut's house and change his bed into the base egg, you have the yellow egg. If you go into the captains cabin and change a grublin into the base egg, it's the red egg. The colour of the egg stays yellow, but the SnS screen records which colour you have.

I know that. Remember earlier in the topic when I needed help with the object mod we discussed that. What I was thinking was if we could collect 1 egg (base egg) and as such bring up an SnS screen of some sort then it's possible we could find the address for that screen change it's value (like in BK we change it to FFFF) and it will show the lot as collected.

hatrickpatrick 21st December 2005 09:52 PM

Here's how the value was found in BK
Have no SnS items for this
1: Do an unknown value search
2: Do a couple of "equal to" searches"
3: collect an egg / the key
4: Do a different to, followed by a whole load of equal to's
5:Collect the next SnS item and repeat the process.

People kept doing that until they found the SnS menu address, I believe

Icy Guy 21st December 2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjo Koolzooie
I've used the base egg code before, and as the egg moved about (it replaced an enemy), it flashed red,dark blue and maybe even cyan. I can't remember exactly what colours, but I am sure (in an unsure way!) that it did.

It does. This seems to happen when the object that was modified seems to do just about anything other than stand still.

banjo nerd 22nd December 2005 01:28 AM

well theres many sayingsabout sns. captin black eye does have somthing to do with yes why do they have him in they pics theyn all asudin hes in number 2 with pictures of the sns well some in his room. also why are there eggstwo in mmm easy rare is trying to trick you so you can probly get wrong 1 and then you toattly screw up on sns

another theorie i think fact:count how many charcters are in the first one or shown a pic *cough* captin black eye *cough* and thier in the secound one with the same kindis level ill compare

boggey(polar bear in freazy peaks):in the sam kinda lvl snow cold water what hurts u.

gobi(camel in gobis desert):hes in a lvl whats hot the lava is like sand hurts ya

cheato(gruntys spell):i dont think holds a big roll in sns same with mumbo


listen you guys should take your time if you wanna figure it out and beat the games while taking notes.

i have my own opion but now i refuse it down compaired to yours dude

dmoss 22nd December 2005 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo nerd
listen you guys should take your time if you wanna figure it out and beat the games while taking notes.

...Wow. Sir, I believe that we are not the ones who should take some time to figure things out. We've been working on this for quite some time now, and obviously have a grand hold on things. If you wanna be taken more seriously, kiddo, I'd learn to type a bit slower and we'll all be a lot happier. Thank you.

Kratos_Aurion 22nd December 2005 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banjo nerd
well theres many sayingsabout sns. captin black eye does have somthing to do with yes why do they have him in they pics theyn all asudin hes in number 2 with pictures of the sns well some in his room. also why are there eggstwo in mmm easy rare is trying to trick you so you can probly get wrong 1 and then you toattly screw up on sns

another theorie i think fact:count how many charcters are in the first one or shown a pic *cough* captin black eye *cough* and thier in the secound one with the same kindis level ill compare

boggey(polar bear in freazy peaks):in the sam kinda lvl snow cold water what hurts u.

gobi(camel in gobis desert):hes in a lvl whats hot the lava is like sand hurts ya

cheato(gruntys spell):i dont think holds a big roll in sns same with mumbo


listen you guys should take your time if you wanna figure it out and beat the games while taking notes.

i have my own opion but now i refuse it down compaired to yours dude

I have no idea what the heck you just said.

banjo nerd 22nd December 2005 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmoss
...Wow. Sir, I believe that we are not the ones who should take some time to figure things out. We've been working on this for quite some time now, and obviously have a grand hold on things. If you wanna be taken more seriously, kiddo, I'd learn to type a bit slower and we'll all be a lot happier. Thank you.




i wasent being rude if you took it that way then im sorry i just beat banjo-kazoiee.(even know that i beat it several times)and all i need is the ice key but i guess what im saying dosent matter


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