This can be huge. I too request further investigation.

Though it goes against the "Collect 4 eggs and the ice key, open secret level" theory. 4 eggs + key = 5. This is suggesting that the red egg is the sixth item you collect. And we all know 6 > 5... right?

Anyway, for those of us that don't have GbtG, here's food for thought. If we are to figure out what SNS was going to do, we need to think about the items themselves. Why things as random as six differently colored eggs and a key of ice? Why not six acorns and a wooden key? Think about possible connections (besides what they're used for in Banjo Tooie... I don't know about you, but I have a hard time believing all we would get out of them are cheats).

What about my fantastic revolutionary unbelievable super-de-duper discovery? About the GFF question?

What? It's just a picture of Devil Bottles. I don't see any egg. Maybe I'm just being o-O , though.

I was about to say the same thing. I don't see an egg or the number 6.

Grabbed by the Ghoulies

I feel left out.

Oh my... I feel so dumb now. That IS just Bottles with a red color scheme. Could still be a clue of some sort though.

And Theguyoverthere, I saw your post. I forgot to comment on it though. I can't say I've ever had that happen to me. Did it ever happen with things like Nabnut's house?

Hey guys, this may be nothing, but Ive been going around and looking at the different textures of the walls in the secret rooms.
In MMM, in the secret room inside the X barrel, I was looking at the ceiling and I swear I could see the number "4" and a symbol of an ice key. I know this might just be my crazed brain ,but anyway.
Also, in GV, there is some hieroglyphics on the door of the secret room. I don't know if these are special or unique or anything, but yeah.
Coul someone with more cred than me take a gander and either dismiss my halfbaked ideas (in a non offensive fashion) or something?
Thanks.

In Banjo-Tooie look on pictures in Jolly's:
TTC picture=TTC map in RBB
Sharkfood Island picture-SFI on map in RBB
pink egg picture-X on map...
Maybe pictures in Jolly's represent clue to red egg not pink?Pictures have refrences to level where in captain's' cabin(Blackeye?) you can collect red egg.
Plus red egg is one of "missing" eggs in Banjo-Tooie.Maybe Red Bottles=red egg?

In GBTG there is refrence to 4 eggs.We have 3 eggs in Banjo-Tooie.Maybe secret level mention on blackboard is joke?But in GBTG we can see Devil Bottles pictures.It looks like to me that we can swap red egg from Banjo-Kazooie to Banjo-Tooie and unlock Bottles'Revenge legally.

There is another possiblity.In fact only 2 eggs became from BK paks.Yellow egg still on Heggy Nest.Maybe we can swap 2 eggs from BK to BT?Maybe red egg can unlock BR and green egg can unlock RSA1?Cyan egg looks like fake.

Maybe RSA1 is this secret level?

Sorry about my"poor"english grammar...

Swing and a miss.

ouch. yes, i see it now. sorry, it honestly looked like a red egg with the number six on it at first.

time to beat my friend for getting my hopes up, sorry to distract everyone from the task at hand. *gets friend beating stick*

all right, backshift over, nosis sleep now.

When I was a kid I used to see faces of people screaming and being brutally murdered in the walls's textures.
Seriously.

I think Banjokonspirazy is on to something. I saw something in odd colors on the Ice Key room's ceiling.

If this is a joke, the entire findings, all a big joke made by Rare.
Then why do people keep seeing these.
They could be true, or we fell for the great SNS joke.
Either way, I hope we find if SNS is a joke, or if it's real.

Whow, have we had this already? I mean, this could be the ultimate explanation, why some eggs have special rooms in BK and others just seem out of place! We were supposed to swap some eggs from BK to BT (the ones with special areas whose counterparts have apparantly been taken out in BT) and others from BT to BK - these seeming out of place in BK, because storywise they are "put" there by something in BT.
This totally makes sense for me!

That is SUCH a convincing visual trick it's not even funny. D:<
When i move away, it looks like an egg. Forward, Devil Bottles.

D:>

Wow! A LOT of new theories have flooded in over the past week or so. ^_^ I always thought that the Eggs are "hatched" by something in BK. Now after playing BT you see that Eggs are hatched. Now, maybe since "hot-swapping" was pulled and 64DD flopped, that there is a way that in BK to show you where to go in BT. How many places are accsessible in BK in BT? Spiral Mountain and Gruntilda's Lair. Also, do some levels have an odd connection? For example:

RBB(BK) is a dock for GI(BT).
TTC(BK) is the beach near JRL(BT).
GV(BK) and FP(BK)are close together like HFP(BT).

You know, I've been thinking, maybe Tooie WAS going to be on the 64DD, allowing it to read Kazooie's map data with Tooie's physics. Like I said before.

But there's more evidence that I forgot about. The boulder blocking Gnawty's house in CCW. Bill Drill, anyone? That would explain why there's an animation for it breaking.

OK sorry guys I've been unbelievably tied up these last couple of days. Tomorrow afternoon, it's cutscene mod time (I hope).

MINOR BREAKTHROUGH

I just erased my SNS data on BK and started again. I got the cyan egg, pink egg, blue egg, ice key, and green egg, in that order. The SNS text on the View Totals screen was blue. Keep in mind that blue means that you've accessed it and are able to go there again.

I got the red egg. The SNS text turned yellow (which means that it's inaccessable, I believe). It remained so when I got the yellow egg.

What am I saying? I think I may have found the four eggs. Pink, blue, green, cyan. Plus the ice key of course.

It makes sense too. Heggy has the yellow one in Tooie, and the red one probably pertains to Blackeye or Devil Bottles. They probably have it/know where it is. And besides, they're the last two on the SNS screen, plain and simple.

Err... isn't it always blue? And I've never seen any text be yellow before... maybe pink but not yellow

Want me to take a picture? It's yellow right now. Whatever I do, it's yellow.

The world you are in is always written in pink.
And the other worlds...
Sometimes they're all yellow, sometimes they're all blue.
The color doesn't have any purpose.
EDIT: Try entering a world or going back to Grunty's lair.
It'll be blue.

I'm pretty sure it's pink, at least for my version. I checked my ROM and stood in Spiral Mountain and it was pink, not blue.

EDIT: Wait a minute, you contradicted urself. YOu said that the word ur in is always pink. Then you said try going to Grunty's Lair or something and it will be BLUE. Do I have the right to be confused?

Oh, I messed myself up.

Anyways, pix time!

Inside Mumbo's Mountain, yellow text.
Inside Grunty's Lair, it is magically turned into blue! Notice the level isn't complete.
And pink text when I'm viewing MM's stats, inside MM.

Also, notice that 101th note over there? Yeah, that's not supposed to happen, the game isn't supposed to register more than a 100 notes in the data. Even if you get more than 255 (the max amount) the game will reset it back to 0 when you exit the world.

So, somehow I managed to glitch it, and now that cute little note is crashing my game whenever I climb up the slope to the first note door in Grunty's Lair.

I need to delete my saved data, but I feel soo lazy right now.

Eh? I wasn't criticizing or anything, please don't get offended.
I just made a little correction. After all nobody's perfect, you know.

Don't take me wrong, I appreciate your efforts in this search for SnS, but I just feel obligated to make a correction whenever I see you guys made a mistake.
It's just my way to help you out. :)

The "Do I have the right to be confused?" wasn't supposed to be offending... just a little funny gag i like to say whenever I'm confused, kinda like a spoof of "You have the right to remain silent" but seriously, it's cool.

Oh, ok then.
=)

Btw, did you notice that when you are inside Grunty's Lair, the font look like an egg texture, but when you are in the worlds the font look like ground?
Look closely at the pics and see.

EDIT: OMG I'M BORED!!
I made yet another pic, for font textures comparasion sake
The above one has "blue egg" textures.
The one below it has yellow "ground" textures.

I don't know, looks like a palette swap to me.

I have another idea.I readed some time ago on RWP that Rare said that all secret eggs should be in BT.So...we can collect 3 eggs from paks,maybe 2 swap from first game.Maybe 1 egg is super hidden in BT for people who not have BK?This egg will reveal prizes from 2 swapping eggs.I don't think so that Rare not put way to unlock Bottles'Revenge for players without BK.Maybe we can unlock BR with 2 ways:swapping egg from BK or find hidden egg(cyan?) in BT???Maybe this egg is hidden in Stop N Swap room(Tower Room?) in BT?Place where SNS will begun and players who can't use SNS can find super secret?

Maybe this is key to SNS:

Jukebox-2 doubledoons-Blackeye water-Jiggywiggy Super Special Challange-CHOSEN ONE Y-Tower Room-Stop N Swop ???

I have a theory, maybe SnS is in SSBM, you know, with a GBA player, put BK:GR in the player then play SSBM, i know that looks weird but it can be.

What happens with the gameboy player is that you need to put the gameboy player disc in for the gamecube to understand that its connected to the Gameboy player, and doing that would make it impossible to use SSBM nice idea anyway.

Banjo Pl thats smart thinking, and i spose it could work but i highly dought there would be a transfer, but maybe the other 3 eggs are in the secret areas
i.e silos 8,9 and grunties lair tower room and maybe they unlock the RSA.

How is that a nice idea? Anyway, whats these codes doing for us that we found in the slow-motion present. Anything new?

I was thinking the same thing. I can't believe some of these theories I've been reading lately.

@ Maypep: As that little grey square near the top-right corner of your post says, you need to "buck up" your ideas. So there.

I was actually being polite.

" Why put the eggs in as a trap? " I say.
" Hopefully they will stop hackers. " Mr. Miyamoto says.

heavens, havent we tried that in every game?

Its always possiblity.But why BK base egg still in BT?I'm think that they use BK base egg because we can swap more than 1 egg-I see screens represent green egg(BK style) in BT.See this:

http://users.cyberone.com.au/getley/...26%20small.jpg

Read page 71 on this topic for more explanation about BK pink,blue,green,red,yellow eggs in BT.

Can you noticed this:
Characters in BT releate to SNS items:
Blackeye-pink/red
Gobi-blue
Loggo-green
Boggy-ice key

^ What? That just looks like an image mod to me even i could make that, but no i don't really see how that works at all see Gobi has no relation to the blue egg in BT nor does logo or boggy.

As for the Base egg i'll have to read up about, i'm a bit out of the swing of things.

It was just an image mod, it changed the image of a Spiral Mountain Ugger into the Base egg. What was interesting that the colours of the egg was different to the base colour (yellow).

This proved that ALL the textures for the SnS eggs were present in BT at least at one point.

Oh i see sorry i didn't quite understand what he ment but yeah know it make perfect sence. Thanks

Rare said:
in FGN article November 2000:"Feature that can allow players to come back to Banjo-Kazooie and unlock secret areas after complete Banjo-Tooie is in the game"
Rare Scribes November 2001"Devil Bottles IS in a secret sub game called Bottles'Revenge"
Rare Scribes Febuary 2006"When you give me 1 millon $ then i tell you how Stop'n'Swap WORKS"

They mention on scribes"Stop'n'Swap room"They said that they don't reveal true because this will spoil "fabriced truths and wonderfull e-mails"
And after RWP found Bottles'Revenge they said that"Guys at RWP has pretty close to solve Stop'n'Swap.We don't reveal whole true."

Its looks like that SNS isn't canned and has something to Bottles'Revenge.

Just a theory, but I think the order to collect the eggs is like this :

pink egg > red egg > ice key > blue egg

Pink egg is in TTC, there are a lot of pictures in rusty bucket bay, which has the red egg. Red egg is in bt fire egg, fire can melt ice, like the ice that's in front of the ice key. A key can open doors, which door is locked? Indeed, the one in Goby's Valley, where the blue egg is!

Also I think that the green egg and the cyan egg must be collected. Green egg is in bt grenade egg, so it can maybe be used to blast open the entrance to the cyan egg.

The yellow egg seems like a fake one to me, it just doesn't fit in anywhere.

Like I said, it's just a theory ;)

Good theory!