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Tooie 5th March 2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugbzurg (Post 929274)
Isn't there not a set order for the Klungo battles? Isn't the order random? Sometimes, the first time you fight him, he might be making copies of himself.

Also, if you're #10 on the leaderboards for defeating Hag 1, you're overqualified for giving a guide. Don't be lazy. It took me about an hour and dozens of deaths, but I beat her and I could totally give a guide on how to beat that boss.

In boss mode on XBLA, the first Klungo is always the red enlarge potion, the second Klungo is always the green invisibility potion, and the third Klungo is always the blue cloning potion. It is not randomized like it is in adventure mode or the N64 version.

Also, he's tenth in the leaderboards for overall time, not the Hag 1 fight itself, the game only does it overall for the boss times. His Hag 1 time is much longer than ours, which really kills him and if he could improve it he could probably beat my overall time, which I haven't improved upon (even with a few attempts) since summer 2009, proven by the fact that CBM and Weldar are leagues ahead of every single one of my times (except a few ties on the Klungos).

Not to mention since that age-old post he's like 14-20 or something now.

Dan 6th March 2011 06:47 PM

Yeah if i had coolboymans hag 1 time I would be like 4th lol my times outside are killer, I just have a problem with the auto look centering that is on the xbox version, it's not what i grew up on. and hag 1 is elevatred

Lugbzurg 7th March 2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mebecj (Post 929698)
That order is for the Boss Replay mode.

Ahh, gotcha.

But seriously, people, if you've beaten the Hag 1 even once and you remember how you did it, or even if you watched someone else do it, you're qualified to write a guide on it. Being #10 on the leaderboards means you are OVER qualified, especially when you consider just how many people have played that game.

Dan 9th March 2011 10:00 PM

Not to the intricacy i felt was required.

30-50 feral rats 10th March 2011 10:51 PM

I reckon I should give in my times, since this guide has aided me in reaching my position on the leaderboards.
  • Klungo 1= 00.21.40
  • Klungo 2= 00.16.50
  • Klungo 3= 00.20.00 (I'll definitely have another shot at reducing this, even if only with slight success)
  • Targitzan= 00.42.60 (I feel I can do faster, but I don't plan on coming back to this before the others)
  • Old King Coal= 00.09.90 (Can't seem to reduce this to 8 or so seconds)
  • Mr. Patch= 01.03.50 (This is with the flying strategy, and probably isn't my best with it. Haven't bothered using land method. I'll probably use a mix of both before using land only.)
  • Lord Woo Fak Fak= 01.01.40 (Will not leave this until 55 seconds is reached. I finished with the time I have after taking the boils out in 27 seconds, and done it in 21 seconds before, so... (Also, I may be the only one who enjoys facing this boss, it seems. I love trying against this one for some reason))
  • Terry= 00.38.50
  • Weldar= 01.05.10 (How was 1 min 2 seconds reached? Can't seem to get under 1.05.)
  • Chilly Willy= 00.52.40
  • Chilli Billi= 00.34.90
  • Mingy Jongo= 00.13.80 (I won't leave this till I match CBM's time)
  • Hag 1= 03.12.40 (My recommendation: Jump on top of the drill, even when spinning, to fire eggs at Grunty until the batteries are blown up, (spinning drill doesn't damage you whilst on top, if you're wondering) making sure you use ice eggs. Do it fast enough to get hit only once by a spell when on top each time, and try to avoid all other attacks if you can. (Mortar cannons won't hit you on top, so stay still) Replenish health and eggs to max when the drill spins, and then get back on top for last two times, getting down near the back of Hag 1 to destroy the battery. I would have beaten CBM's time by about 3 seconds if I didn't get nervous towards the end and failed to aim properly. Whole loss of 8 seconds there, due to my failure)
Overall= 10.32.40, putting me in at 3rd out of OVER 9000 people. That makes me more awesome than a pencil! :D ...
... I'll be quiet now.

Esteban Colberto 12th March 2011 12:58 AM

Pencils are really amazing though. If Jesus came down, turned into the hottest woman on Earth with his Jesus powers and sucked my dick, he still wouldn't be as awesome as a pencil.

Tooie 12th March 2011 01:52 AM

Tooie here, gonna update that scoreboard now.

Klungo 1
1st) 0:21.00 - Coolboyman
2nd) 0:21.10 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 0:21.30 - Dan
3rd) 0:21.30 - Tooie
5th) 0:21.40 - DemonLabRat

Klungo 2
1st) 0:16.30 - Coolboyman
1st) 0:16.30 - Dan
3rd) 0:16.40 - Tooie
3rd) 0:16.40 - Weldar-Kazooie
5th) 0:16.50 - DemonLabRat

Klungo 3
1st) 0:19.90 - Coolboyman
1st) 0:19.90 - Tooie
1st) 0:19.90 - Weldar-Kazooie
4th) 0:20.00 - DemonLabRat
5th) 0:20.10 - Dan

Targitzan
1st) 0:36.60 - Weldar-Kazooie
2nd) 0:42.00 - Coolboyman
3rd) 0:42.60 - DemonLabRat
4th) 0:47.50 - Dan
5th) 0:47.70 - Tooie

Old King Coal
1st) 0:07.90 - Coolboyman
2nd) 0:08.20 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 0:09.40 - Tooie
4th) 0:09.90 - DemonLabRat
5th) 0:10.10 - Dan

Mr. Patch
1st) 0:41.70 - Coolboyman
2nd) 0:48.70 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 0:58.40 - Dan
4th) 1:03.50 - DemonLabRat
5th) 1:12.50 - Tooie

Lord Woo Fak Fak
1st) 1:01.40 - DemonLabRat
2nd) 1:01.60 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 1:08.10 - Coolboyman
4th) 1:26.30 - Tooie
5th) 1:52.40 - Dan

Terry
1st) 0:34.90 - Coolboyman
2nd) 0:38.40 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 0:38.50 - DemonLabRat
4th) 0:39.50 - Dan
5th) 0:39.70 - Tooie

Weldar
1st) 1:02.80 - Weldar-Kazooie
2nd) 1:02.90 - Coolboyman
3rd) 1:04.70 - Tooie
4th) 1:05.00 - Dan
5th) 1:05.10 - DemonLabRat

Chilly Willy
1st) 0:51.90 - Coolboyman
2nd) 0:52.40 - DemonLabRat
3rd) 0:52.70 - Weldar-Kazooie
4th) 0:52.80 - Dan
5th) 0:54.00 - Tooie

Chilli Billi
1st) 0:33.70 - Weldar-Kazooie
2nd) 0:34.10 - Coolboyman
3rd) 0:34.80 - Dan
4th) 0:34.90 - DemonLabRat
5th) 0:35.90 - Tooie

Mingy Jongo
1st) 0:11.50 - Coolboyman
2nd) 0:11.60 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 0:13.10 - Dan
4th) 0:13.80 - DemonLabRat
4th) 0:15.10 - Tooie

Hag 1
1st) 3:07.40 - Coolboyman
2nd) 3:12.40 - DemonLabRat
3rd) 3:20.10 - Weldar-Kazooie
4th) 3:40.60 - Tooie
5th) 4:28.00 - Dan

OVERALL
1st) 9:59.60 - Coolboyman
2nd) 10:13.70 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 10:32.40 - DemonLabRat
4th) 11:43.50 - Tooie
5th) 12:39.30 - Dan

k bye

Jacky Durand 24th March 2011 10:10 AM

Great news for those who wants to improve their Boss times. A guy uploaded his battles and it would be quite an understatement to call those battles great - they're unbelieveable!

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/user/MegaDest...33D2B0518DBBCD

Weldar-Kazooie 24th March 2011 05:47 PM

If I could tie CBM's Hag 1 Time, I'd be 1.5 Seconds away from beating him. Close.

Also, I'm very impressed that someone could beat my Lord Woo Fak Fak time. Well done LabRat!

I know what you mean as well, I believe an ideal time for that boss could be as low as perhaps 53 seconds, but it's oh so difficult to attain! I don't mind the boss either, which is probably why we're the best at it!

Dan 25th March 2011 05:18 AM

I've decided to give these a whirl.

Two new times so far, both dragons

Chilli Billi: 33.70
Chilli Willi: 51.60

edit:
third time to add, mingy jongo 11.40 finally lol

edit again
klungo 1 21.20
hag 1 3:46.20

overall: 11:53.40 13th place. Not bad so far. Going to strive for more.

targitzan 44.40 and never getting any lower, i don't even see how i could have and yet you guys find 10 seconds somewhere.

overall is now 11:50.30 putting me in 12th

edit: lord woo 1.33.20

overall now 11:31.10 (13) putting me in 7th overall on the leaderboards. Starting in 16th that's not bad :P

10:10 on okc is now 9.80 lol puts my overall to 11:30.80 ..woo

maybe i should just my times. I'll do that now

Klungo 1: 21.20. Can get .20 less.
Klungo 2: 16.30 Apparently 10 more can be gotten, but i've failed multiple times.
Klungo 3: 20.10 I can't even replicate this score, and it sucks
Targitzan: 44.40 That's the best I can do, I never missed once, how you guys get 10 seconds less is beyond me.
OKC: 8.80 lol look at that
MR patch: 46.00 Not bad i guess for now
lord woot: 1:33.20 This guys actually fun now, and I could have had 1:12 but my last grenade egg didn't register and i had to restock
terry: 39.50, glitch seems to be patched making this unbeatable for me :(
weldar: 1:05.00 I can do better but it's annoying trying
chilly willy 51.60 1st place
Chilli billi: 33.70 1st place, Dragon dominance once more!
Mingy Jongo: 11.40 1st place, for a very short time probably, but hey thats four 1sts!
hag 1: 3:46.20 ye i finally grinded a somewhat acceptable run of this, expect like another 20 seconds to come off it at some point.

Overall before Tonights reduxes: 12:39.30 17th place
Current overall: 11:17.40 (13) 7th place overall, 10 place advancement

Jacky Durand 25th March 2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldar-Kazooie (Post 936776)
I know what you mean as well, I believe an ideal time for that boss could be as low as perhaps 53 seconds, but it's oh so difficult to attain! I don't mind the boss either, which is probably why we're the best at it!

Did you check the videos I linked to? Megadestructor beats Fak Fak in 52:70..

Dan 25th March 2011 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacky Durand (Post 937134)
Did you check the videos I linked to? Megadestructor beats Fak Fak in 52:70..

they're remarkably tool assisted and unrealistic to even try for lol. my chilli willi time was REMARKABLE tonight and missed his by 3 seconds (and is still first place for our community). The videos do help though thats for certain.

with Fusirion in 286th, and 14:59.90 (close call much?) thats 286 people now that have 'now who's boss?'

KLUNGO 3 19.70 HOLY SHIT
lord woo: 1:19.90 got owned during the eyes part as usual
21.10 on klungo 1. ruined the 0 1 2 3 4 we had goin there, but dammit almost 1st on every klungo :(

edit: i've done a lot of shaving, I'm 1st on 5 bosses, and within 3 seconds of 1st on like 3 more of them. Lord woo is a good run but could be improved, but not presently, same with patch and targitzan. I just simply can't aim any better than I have, My times are submitted, no more updates and no more tries from me.

Jacky Durand 26th March 2011 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 937135)
they're remarkably tool assisted and unrealistic to even try for lol. my chilli willi time was REMARKABLE tonight and missed his by 3 seconds (and is still first place for our community). The videos do help though thats for certain.

There are way to many mistakes in the battles for them to be tool-assisted. I tried his technique on Chilly Willy (pay close attention to the way he shoots eggs) and got a time of 48:30.

Dan 27th March 2011 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacky Durand (Post 937672)
There are way to many mistakes in the battles for them to be tool-assisted. I tried his technique on Chilly Willy (pay close attention to the way he shoots eggs) and got a time of 48:30.

there's a far less likely chance he has the fastest time on all 13 bosses, by a dramatic amount, coincidentally offline, and did them all in 1 try as proven by his videos. That being said, he did use some pretty good tricks, but nothing we weren't already doing. Weldar, lord Woo, and patch are the biggest examples of him doing unrealisitc things

Weldar-Kazooie 27th March 2011 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 937881)
there's a far less likely chance he has the fastest time on all 13 bosses, by a dramatic amount, coincidentally offline, and did them all in 1 try as proven by his videos. That being said, he did use some pretty good tricks, but nothing we weren't already doing. Weldar, lord Woo, and patch are the biggest examples of him doing unrealisitc things

What he said.

Simply put, his times are just too good. I'm not jealous or envious of his scores, but they're simply too flawless to be non-tas'd. To not even falter with the aim against Terry, LWFF, or Targitzan is impossible with the Xbox Joystick.

Like Dan said, these tricks he used are all great and very helpful, they're just done too flawlessly to have been legitimate in the videos.


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