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Dan 4th May 2009 08:08 AM

[Spoilers]Now Who's Boss Guide
 
Klungo 1: As soon as the fight starts, hit him, then the clock begins, stay as close in as you can and when the shield falls, he will begin to grow. Roll attack (constantly hitting him) on the inside of his coat; thus making you both immortal until the exact second he can be hit. anything less than 22 seconds is a good time

Klungo 2: invisible, completely useless, follow guide above pretty much, the second hes gone hit him, you can do this in easily under 17 seconds.

Klungo 3: duplicating, this time the potions will home in on you, just kinda strafe back n forth to dodge them, stay in close, and always hit the one that isnt moving at one point (the rest will run off, so youll hit the real one ASAP), aim for 20 seconds or so

Your combined klungo total should be under 1 minute. Thats 3 bosses in under 1 minute <3. :D

Targitzan: normal eggs on targets, grenade eggs on moggies, aim is not even important on targets, you have 100 eggs and can shoot like 4 per second, just get it over with as soon as you can, with moggies, try your best, aim for under a minute.

Old king coal: Ice eggs. nuff said. aim for under 13 seconds.

Mr patch: Do this fight entirely from the ground. Order of patches coming soon. just figure it out. Aim for under 1 minute this way D:.. or if you do the airborne way aim for under 2. Use beak bomb liberally to get to sides of him worth shooting.

Lord woo fak fak: This is the hardest one for most people, the trick is to pick a side at the start, and if you see a boil, get so close youll hurt yourself, the cutscene will spare you the damage, if not, use talon torpedo and burst THROUGH him to the other side, a speeding kazooie is unstopable even by his body, then just spam as many targets as you can, if you hear a lightning attack, press x to recall kazooie and swim a small distance, then release the beast. use grenade eggs when possible but always use kazooie if the boils are on the other side, itll save a ton of eggs. Then for the eyes, use kazooie again, then swim out of the way, he will eventually turn around swim away etc, this is THE PERFECT TIME to talon torpedo. with practice under 2 minutes is very possible. Aim for under 2:30.

Terry: This one has some secrets, use grenade eggs, and while dodging the 2 purples, get as FAR away as you can, this way when shooting him you can get him to 10/14 hp, then use rolling to kill mucoids as it can kill up to 5 in 1 shot, and then repeat, youll get him in 2 rounds for easily under 40 seconds.

Weldar: More secrets :). First round, dodge, then grenade egg. Second round, wonderwing the nuts, as they come into you to clear them each in under 2 seconds total, grenade egg. 3rd round, LET him squish you, this skips the chasing stage. Then as he comes down in the center, grab some hp from the nuts, grenade egg. repeat while lasers up. aim for under 1:10.

Chilly billy: 6 hp, use ice eggs, make sure before you shoot, the barrel of the gun is OUT, so you dont waste them. use only 2 eggs per cannon. Use wondering to just walk without stopping. aim for under 38 seconds.

Chilly willy: 12 hp this time, use fire eggs, 3 eggs per cannon, same rules as last time, aim for under a minute. Same dodging as above.

Mingy jongo: Ok, it's been found how to guarantee the wonderwing. SKIP ALL HIS CONVERSATION BOXES EXCEPT when the floor is closing. Then hit him 1st shot as normal, and wonderwing away. You can get 7 nice shots off with the wonderwing in a row before he warps.

Hag 1: Start the fight off by getting on the drill, and running to the right, shoot her 10 times and repeat running left. Then do the same during the mortars. Afterwards you should be down 4 hp with 4 on the ground, go get them. switch to ice eggs and shoot her during the war and then switch to CKZ, and go destroy a battery. repeat. use fire eggs if low on ice during the mustard gas, and switch to regular eggs as her hp gets below 5. Then finish her quickly.

there you have it.

LEADERBOARDS

Klungo 1 - Estimated Optimal time: 21.00
1st) 0:21.00 - Coolboyman
1st) 0:21:00 - MegaDestructor9
3rd) 0:21.10 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 0:21.10 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:21.10 - Dan
6th) 0:21.30 - Tooie
6th) 0:21.30 - DemonLabRat

Klungo 2 - Estimated Optimal time: 16.20
1st) 0:16.20 - MegaDestructor9
1st) 0:16.20 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:16.30 - Coolboyman
3rd) 0:16.30 - Dan
3rd) 0:16.30 - Weldar-Kazooie
6th) 0:16.40 - Tooie
7th) 0:16.50 - DemonLabRat

Klungo 3 Estimated Optimal time - 19.50
1st) 0:19.50 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:19.70 - Dan
3rd) 0:19.80 - Jacky Durand
4th) 0:19.90 - Coolboyman
4th) 0:19.90 - Tooie
4th) 0:19.90 - Weldar-Kazooie
7th) 0:20.00 - DemonLabRat

Targitzan Estimated Optimal time - 30.70
1st) 0:31.60 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:36.60 - Weldar-Kazooie
3rd) 0:41.70 - DemonLabRat
4th) 0:42.00 - Coolboyman
5th) 0:44.00 - Dan
6th) 0:47.30 - Jacky Durand
7th) 0:47.70 - Tooie

Old King Coal - Estimated optimal time: 0:06.90
1st) 0:06.90 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:07.60 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:07.80 - Dan
4th) 0:07.90 - Coolboyman
5th) 0:08.20 - Weldar-Kazooie
6th) 0:08.20 - DemonLabRat
7th) 0:09.40 - Tooie

Mr. Patch Estimated Optimal Time: Ludicrous
1st) 0:28.60 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:29.80 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:37.50 - DemonLabRat
3rd) 0:41.70 - Coolboyman
4th) 0:46.00 - Dan
5th) 0:48.70 - Weldar-Kazooie
7th) 1:12.50 - Tooie

Lord Woo Fak Fak Estimated Optimal: Idk like 20 seconds?
1st) 0:45.00 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:55.70 - DemonLabRat
3rd) 1:01.60 - Weldar-Kazooie
4th) 1:07.60 - Jacky Durand
5th) 1:08.10 - Coolboyman
6th) 1:19.90 - Dan
7th) 1:26.30 - Tooie

Terry Estimated Optimal - Impossible to tell due to varrying glitches. Possibly under 30 seconds.
1st) 0:33.20 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:34.50 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:34.90 - Coolboyman
4th) 0:38.30 - Dan
5th) 0:38.40 - Weldar-Kazooie
6th) 0:38.50 - DemonLabRat
7th) 0:39.70 - Tooie

Weldar Estimated Optimal: That clearly tool-assisted 1st
1st) 1:00.90 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 1:01.90 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 1:02.20 - Dan
4th) 1:02.80 - Weldar-Kazooie
5th) 1:02.90 - Coolboyman
6th) 1:04.70 - Tooie
7th) 1:05.10 - DemonLabRat

Chilly Willy Estimated optimal 0:47.40
1st) 0:47.40 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:48.00 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:49.60 - Dan
4th) 0:51.00 - Weldar-Kazooie
5th) 0:51.40 - DemonLabRat
6th) 0:51.90 - Coolboyman
7th) 0:54.00 - Tooie

Chilli Billi Estimated Optimal: 31.90
1st) 0:31.90 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:32.40 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:32.50 - Weldar-Kazooie
4th) 0:33.50 - DemonLabRat
5th) 0:33.70 - Dan
6th) 0:34.10 - Coolboyman
7th) 0:35.90 - Tooie

Mingy Jongo Estimated Optimal 0:09.70
1st) 0:09.70 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 0:09.70 - Jacky Durand
3rd) 0:09.80 - Dan
3rd) 0:09.80 - Weldar-Kazooie
5th) 0:10.30 - DemonLabRat
6th) 0:11.50 - Coolboyman
7th) 0:15.10 - Tooie

Hag 1 Estimated optimal: 2:50.00
1st) 2:54.50 - MegaDestructor9
2nd) 3:07.40 - Coolboyman
3rd) 3:12.40 - DemonLabRat
4th) 3:20.10 - Weldar-Kazooie
5th) 3:40.60 - Tooie
6th) 3:46.20 - Dan
7th) 4:23.70 - Jacky Durand

OVERALL
1st) 8:46.40 - MegaDestructor9 (TAS?)
2nd) 9:52.10 - DemonLabRat
3rd) 9:59.60 - Coolboyman
4th) 10:08.00 - Weldar-Kazooie
5th) 10:54.60 - Dan
6th) 10:59.60 - Jacky Durand
7th) 11:43.50 - Tooie

tank2tank 4th May 2009 09:22 AM

Very good guide, I'll make sure to give 'now who's boss' a shot once I can be bothered to play Tooie some more.

Rock 4th May 2009 06:38 PM

Great. :) I have one tip for the HAG 1 - when she turns on the engine and drill, just talon trot on the back of the vehicle and you won't get hit.

Dan 4th May 2009 07:05 PM

Well for hag 1, I know like how to do it, i just dont know any silly little tricks to shave time, i have ideas, like during the mortar stage stay in front of her as much as you can so she fires the things off, but i doubt it matters how many times it fires before the next round of fighting. Hag 1 is really just a matter of beating the witch without taking multiple rounds (getting all 10 damage in the 1 group of fighting). if you do the rest of the bosses good enough, you can get em all in under 10 minutes. :D hey, if i can do it, you can! :). I have no previous practice with fps or nothing and i did it all just fine, i still have tons of time to shave too, like i could with effort and luck get a good 2 more minutes off my time and im TENTH PLACE lol. people just need to know the tricks to terry and weldar etc.

Rock 4th May 2009 07:45 PM

Doing a fantastic HAG 1 run then died...

Are my times decent so far?

Klungo 1 - 0:21.50
Klungo 2 - 0.17.00
Klungo 3 - 0.21.40
Targitzan - 1:00.60
Old King Coal - 0:14.80
Mr Patch - N/A
Lord Woo Fak fak - N/A
Terry - 0:43.80
Weldar - 1:23.50
Chilly Willy - 0:56.60
Chilli Billi - 0:38.90
Mingy Jongo - 0:37.10
HAG 1 - N/A

hamsterlord 4th May 2009 08:02 PM

You can definitely do better on Mingy Jongo with the Wonderwing glitch, but it takes patience, since hitting him 7 times with it is all luck.

Dan 4th May 2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Laurence (Post 584266)
Doing a fantastic HAG 1 run then died... <-- don't do that :P

Are my times decent so far? yes except weldar

Klungo 1 - 0:21.50
Klungo 2 - 0.17.00 1 second can be shaved here, no big deal
Klungo 3 - 0.21.40
Targitzan - 1:00.60 close, try for under a minute!
Old King Coal - 0:14.80
Mr Patch - N/A Defeat
Lord Woo Fak fak - N/A Defeat
Terry - 0:43.80 5 seconds or so here, but this is a good time still
Weldar - 1:23.50 please read the guide, you lose 20 seconds here
Chilly Willy - 0:56.60
Chilli Billi - 0:38.90
Mingy Jongo - 0:37.10
HAG 1 - N/A Defeat

Bold parts in the quote are advice :D

Tooie 4th May 2009 08:14 PM

Hey, about that Talon Torpedo method for Lord Woo. How do I do it without getting Banjo hurt?

Cobelcog 4th May 2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tooie (Post 584286)
Hey, about that Talon Torpedo method for Lord Woo. How do I do it without getting Banjo hurt?

When you hear the lightning shots call back Kazooie. If the attack hits during the animation of Kazooie going back into Banjo no damage will be taken.

Dan 4th May 2009 08:34 PM

The way i Did it was use grenade eggs when nessecary, and talon like crazy, then THE SECOND YOU HEAR THE PICKUUUU from his lightning, press X, recalling kazooie, then swim. if his eyes are closed you only need to go like 4 cm lol

BKSonic1234 4th May 2009 09:19 PM

Nice guide, Dan. I'm gonna give this a try as soon as I go back and finish B-K XBLA and the rest of B-T.

Dan 4th May 2009 09:32 PM

thanks! btw, your sig is one of my favorite songs ever.

Moving around at the speed of sound, got places to go, gotta follow my rainbow! can't stick around gotta keep moving on, guess what lies ahead? only 1 way to find out :D

Tooie 4th May 2009 09:48 PM

Almost got a 0:54 Patch time, but the last two patches took another minute. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 584362)
thanks! btw, your sig is one of my favorite songs ever.

Moving around at the speed of sound, got places to go, gotta follow my rainbow! can't stick around gotta keep moving on, guess what lies ahead? only 1 way to find out :D

Just keep on moving ahead! No time for guessing follow my plan instead! Trust me and what you can see! You take my lead I'll set you free! :D

glitchman 4th May 2009 10:13 PM

don't know whether this helps or not but when you against weldar STAY in a corner and it cuts running around time (suction, electricity)

Dan 4th May 2009 10:13 PM

K now back on topic, no more city escape :D.


Any and all tips welcome. NEEDS MOAR TIME SHAVING.

Confirmed optimals would be nice too.

Dan 4th May 2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitchman (Post 584423)
don't know whether this helps or not but when you against weldar STAY in a corner and it cuts running around time (suction, electricity)

Shit this double posted >_< IM A BAD FOURMER :'(..


you actually have to let him squish you to skip the chase part, and stay as close to him as you can to get the grenade egg into his mouth instantly.

Rock 4th May 2009 10:18 PM

Woahh!

I just found out on one of the bosses you can cut 20 seconds short by deliberately getting hit on the 2nd time he tries to get you. Can't remember which boss it was though..

Also, I just realized all the bosses except HAG 1 are male.

glitchman 4th May 2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 584427)
you actually have to let him squish you to skip the chase part, and stay as close to him as you can to get the grenade egg into his mouth instantly.

i cant remember weldar that much since i only just started the XBLA port but as soon as he starts chasing you cant you just move forward towards him; get squished then run back to your corner?

----

actually ignore this ive just realised you have to get the egg instantly into his mouth >.<

Rock 4th May 2009 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitchman (Post 584435)
i cant remember weldar that much since i only just started the XBLA port but as soon as he starts chasing you cant you just move forward towards him; get squished then run back to your corner?

Why would you run back to a corner? You're meant to be close to him so you can grenade him quicker.

glitchman 4th May 2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Laurence (Post 584437)
Why would you run back to a corner? You're meant to be close to him so you can grenade him quicker.

yeah i just realised that my bad.

Dan 4th May 2009 10:28 PM

:) keep it coming guys, there is no bad ideas.

TowerOfTragedy 4th May 2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Laurence (Post 584437)
Why would you run back to a corner? You're meant to be close to him so you can grenade him quicker.

Not really, especially with the lazers. Just stand in a corner, so he can't suck you up. Right before he's about to suck you ( lulz ), fire a 'nade egg. Should work better than coming up in his face.

Rock 4th May 2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerOfTragedy (Post 584481)
Just stand in a corner, so he can't suck you up.

Uhh...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TowerOfTragedy (Post 584481)
Should work better than coming up in his face.

Right... O_O

TowerOfTragedy 4th May 2009 11:14 PM

Notice the ( Lulz ).

pokemega32 5th May 2009 12:35 AM

Why are people saying to only shoot 2 eggs at Chilli Billi each time? You can get 3 in in each round...

Tooie 5th May 2009 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemega32 (Post 584565)
Why are people saying to only shoot 2 eggs at Chilli Billi each time? You can get 3 in in each round...

Billi only allows 2 eggs before he goes into tongue mode for some reason, so instead of waiting for the cannon to reopen for a measly shot, just go to the next one for two more.

pokemega32 5th May 2009 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tooie (Post 584568)
Billi only allows 2 eggs before he goes into tongue mode for some reason, so instead of waiting for the cannon to reopen for a measly shot, just go to the next one for two more.

That's weird, I've always been able to hit him with three...

You sure about that?

Weldar-Kazooie 5th May 2009 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemega32 (Post 584762)
That's weird, I've always been able to hit him with three...

You sure about that?

Perhaps you're confusing him with Chilly Willy? I don't mean to be rude, but we're talking about the fire dragon here. :)

I've got 11:80 on Old King Coal, and all you need to do it switch to Egg-Aim mode when he loses both of his arms, since he'll be behind a platform when he is at that part.

pokemega32 5th May 2009 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldar-Kazooie (Post 584788)
Perhaps you're confusing him with Chilly Willy? I don't mean to be rude, but we're talking about the fire dragon here. :)

Nope, I can shoot three times at BOTH dragons...

I don't know why I can get it but not you...

Dan 5th May 2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemega32 (Post 584789)
Nope, I can shoot three times at BOTH dragons...

I don't know why I can get it but not you...

dont get me wrong, you CAN shoot him with a 3rd egg, you just have to wait for the cannon to come back up, and its a serious waste of time, get the 2 and run away, then when the cannon comes back up you can get 2 again instead of 1 since youre at a different cannon.

MinjoJinjo 7th May 2009 09:35 PM

Ok i have tried and tried and i cannot get terry in 2 rounds at all

Wrench 8th May 2009 12:43 AM

Some tips for Hag 1:

Don't worry about aiming, just spam Grunty with Ice Eggs. Ice Eggs are the best as they do 2 damage and have the 2nd best firing rate, slightly better than Fire Eggs. If you run out of ice eggs, attempt to get more during her attack phases, but stop wasting time getting them when she has 40 health, from there just use Blue eggs, then Fire, then Grenade.

For the phases where you need the Clockwork Kazooie Eggs, Talon Trot and jump on the back of the drill, and keep moving forward so you don't fall off. This saves quite a few seconds.

Also. try to get all the quiz questions right, answering them doesn't add any time, and it's a lot easier to see her general location for egg spamming without giant green blobs being thrown at you every two seconds.

Breegullbeak 9th May 2009 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little Laurence (Post 584434)
Woahh!

Also, I just realized all the bosses except HAG 1 are male.

Terry is a female! She lost her eggs am I correct? Only females lay eggs correct?

If you aren't good enough to risk going down to one Honeycomb against Weldar, Get just out of the way so he can jump into you so he takes just one honeycomb away. Grunty is always thinking of two. Just so you know.

Dan 9th May 2009 01:12 AM

terrys a dude >_>

Tooie 9th May 2009 03:04 PM

Terry's a dude. It's a predominantly boy name, and if you want a 100% confirmation...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombie King Jingaling
Terry's wife left him.


Dan 9th May 2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tooie (Post 588324)
Terry's a dude. It's a predominantly boy name, and if you want a 100% confirmation...

"why was terry upset?"
"his eggs were stolen" <--- correct answer in tower of tragedy

Tooie 10th May 2009 02:21 AM

Yeah, I always thought Terry was a girl until I reached Hag 1 and saw that question. Forgot about that one.

Dan 11th May 2009 12:56 PM

I knew terry was a guy right away, The "mumbles" that the characters make are dead giveaways to gender (which makes me think jollys "partner" is actually a dude as well.)

Team Ragnarok 12th May 2009 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MinjoJinjo (Post 586866)
Ok i have tried and tried and i cannot get terry in 2 rounds at all

It seems to take some luck; if you hit him in a certain way, the grenade will end up hitting him twice (normally they do 4 HP damage), and it will only count as one hit in terms of the three hits it takes for him to hide under his nest.

Tooie 12th May 2009 08:01 PM

I find it works only when you stand in the back of the nest and hit him in multiple spots of the body... but that may be just me.


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