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Also, he's tenth in the leaderboards for overall time, not the Hag 1 fight itself, the game only does it overall for the boss times. His Hag 1 time is much longer than ours, which really kills him and if he could improve it he could probably beat my overall time, which I haven't improved upon (even with a few attempts) since summer 2009, proven by the fact that CBM and Weldar are leagues ahead of every single one of my times (except a few ties on the Klungos). Not to mention since that age-old post he's like 14-20 or something now. |
Yeah if i had coolboymans hag 1 time I would be like 4th lol my times outside are killer, I just have a problem with the auto look centering that is on the xbox version, it's not what i grew up on. and hag 1 is elevatred
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But seriously, people, if you've beaten the Hag 1 even once and you remember how you did it, or even if you watched someone else do it, you're qualified to write a guide on it. Being #10 on the leaderboards means you are OVER qualified, especially when you consider just how many people have played that game. |
Not to the intricacy i felt was required.
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I reckon I should give in my times, since this guide has aided me in reaching my position on the leaderboards.
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Pencils are really amazing though. If Jesus came down, turned into the hottest woman on Earth with his Jesus powers and sucked my dick, he still wouldn't be as awesome as a pencil.
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Tooie here, gonna update that scoreboard now.
Klungo 1 1st) 0:21.00 - Coolboyman 2nd) 0:21.10 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 0:21.30 - Dan 3rd) 0:21.30 - Tooie 5th) 0:21.40 - DemonLabRat Klungo 2 1st) 0:16.30 - Coolboyman 1st) 0:16.30 - Dan 3rd) 0:16.40 - Tooie 3rd) 0:16.40 - Weldar-Kazooie 5th) 0:16.50 - DemonLabRat Klungo 3 1st) 0:19.90 - Coolboyman 1st) 0:19.90 - Tooie 1st) 0:19.90 - Weldar-Kazooie 4th) 0:20.00 - DemonLabRat 5th) 0:20.10 - Dan Targitzan 1st) 0:36.60 - Weldar-Kazooie 2nd) 0:42.00 - Coolboyman 3rd) 0:42.60 - DemonLabRat 4th) 0:47.50 - Dan 5th) 0:47.70 - Tooie Old King Coal 1st) 0:07.90 - Coolboyman 2nd) 0:08.20 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 0:09.40 - Tooie 4th) 0:09.90 - DemonLabRat 5th) 0:10.10 - Dan Mr. Patch 1st) 0:41.70 - Coolboyman 2nd) 0:48.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 0:58.40 - Dan 4th) 1:03.50 - DemonLabRat 5th) 1:12.50 - Tooie Lord Woo Fak Fak 1st) 1:01.40 - DemonLabRat 2nd) 1:01.60 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 1:08.10 - Coolboyman 4th) 1:26.30 - Tooie 5th) 1:52.40 - Dan Terry 1st) 0:34.90 - Coolboyman 2nd) 0:38.40 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 0:38.50 - DemonLabRat 4th) 0:39.50 - Dan 5th) 0:39.70 - Tooie Weldar 1st) 1:02.80 - Weldar-Kazooie 2nd) 1:02.90 - Coolboyman 3rd) 1:04.70 - Tooie 4th) 1:05.00 - Dan 5th) 1:05.10 - DemonLabRat Chilly Willy 1st) 0:51.90 - Coolboyman 2nd) 0:52.40 - DemonLabRat 3rd) 0:52.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 4th) 0:52.80 - Dan 5th) 0:54.00 - Tooie Chilli Billi 1st) 0:33.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 2nd) 0:34.10 - Coolboyman 3rd) 0:34.80 - Dan 4th) 0:34.90 - DemonLabRat 5th) 0:35.90 - Tooie Mingy Jongo 1st) 0:11.50 - Coolboyman 2nd) 0:11.60 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 0:13.10 - Dan 4th) 0:13.80 - DemonLabRat 4th) 0:15.10 - Tooie Hag 1 1st) 3:07.40 - Coolboyman 2nd) 3:12.40 - DemonLabRat 3rd) 3:20.10 - Weldar-Kazooie 4th) 3:40.60 - Tooie 5th) 4:28.00 - Dan OVERALL 1st) 9:59.60 - Coolboyman 2nd) 10:13.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 10:32.40 - DemonLabRat 4th) 11:43.50 - Tooie 5th) 12:39.30 - Dan k bye |
Great news for those who wants to improve their Boss times. A guy uploaded his battles and it would be quite an understatement to call those battles great - they're unbelieveable!
Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/user/MegaDest...33D2B0518DBBCD |
If I could tie CBM's Hag 1 Time, I'd be 1.5 Seconds away from beating him. Close.
Also, I'm very impressed that someone could beat my Lord Woo Fak Fak time. Well done LabRat! I know what you mean as well, I believe an ideal time for that boss could be as low as perhaps 53 seconds, but it's oh so difficult to attain! I don't mind the boss either, which is probably why we're the best at it! |
I've decided to give these a whirl.
Two new times so far, both dragons Chilli Billi: 33.70 Chilli Willi: 51.60 edit: third time to add, mingy jongo 11.40 finally lol edit again klungo 1 21.20 hag 1 3:46.20 overall: 11:53.40 13th place. Not bad so far. Going to strive for more. targitzan 44.40 and never getting any lower, i don't even see how i could have and yet you guys find 10 seconds somewhere. overall is now 11:50.30 putting me in 12th edit: lord woo 1.33.20 overall now 11:31.10 (13) putting me in 7th overall on the leaderboards. Starting in 16th that's not bad :P 10:10 on okc is now 9.80 lol puts my overall to 11:30.80 ..woo maybe i should just my times. I'll do that now Klungo 1: 21.20. Can get .20 less. Klungo 2: 16.30 Apparently 10 more can be gotten, but i've failed multiple times. Klungo 3: 20.10 I can't even replicate this score, and it sucks Targitzan: 44.40 That's the best I can do, I never missed once, how you guys get 10 seconds less is beyond me. OKC: 8.80 lol look at that MR patch: 46.00 Not bad i guess for now lord woot: 1:33.20 This guys actually fun now, and I could have had 1:12 but my last grenade egg didn't register and i had to restock terry: 39.50, glitch seems to be patched making this unbeatable for me :( weldar: 1:05.00 I can do better but it's annoying trying chilly willy 51.60 1st place Chilli billi: 33.70 1st place, Dragon dominance once more! Mingy Jongo: 11.40 1st place, for a very short time probably, but hey thats four 1sts! hag 1: 3:46.20 ye i finally grinded a somewhat acceptable run of this, expect like another 20 seconds to come off it at some point. Overall before Tonights reduxes: 12:39.30 17th place Current overall: 11:17.40 (13) 7th place overall, 10 place advancement |
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with Fusirion in 286th, and 14:59.90 (close call much?) thats 286 people now that have 'now who's boss?' KLUNGO 3 19.70 HOLY SHIT lord woo: 1:19.90 got owned during the eyes part as usual 21.10 on klungo 1. ruined the 0 1 2 3 4 we had goin there, but dammit almost 1st on every klungo :( edit: i've done a lot of shaving, I'm 1st on 5 bosses, and within 3 seconds of 1st on like 3 more of them. Lord woo is a good run but could be improved, but not presently, same with patch and targitzan. I just simply can't aim any better than I have, My times are submitted, no more updates and no more tries from me. |
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Simply put, his times are just too good. I'm not jealous or envious of his scores, but they're simply too flawless to be non-tas'd. To not even falter with the aim against Terry, LWFF, or Targitzan is impossible with the Xbox Joystick. Like Dan said, these tricks he used are all great and very helpful, they're just done too flawlessly to have been legitimate in the videos. |
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I would say his best battles are indeed Targitzan, Patch and HAG 1, because of the extraordinary aiming - but that can be done without tool assistance. And his Patch-time really is something special, but Patch follows a certain pattern in the beginning of the battle meaning his patches will always be in the same spots. That's why he can take out 4 in one go - he knows exactly where to aim. The rest of the battle is pure routine. And I don't get what you mean by "doing them in one try". His old Weldar-time was 1:01:60, now it's 1:01:50. It's only Terry, Hag 1 and maybe Lord Woo that gets remarkably better, but that makes sense since Terry and Woo are luck-based and for HAG 1 you either win or get killed. |
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You see at the end of his old king coal videos, his other boss times, all of these were uploaded in the same day, and you can see the other times at the end of the videos, he literally moves from OKC to weldar, to terry (or whatever the order is) and does all 13 of these times in 1 try each going from 14:37 to 8:59. Yeah no. |
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You have to look for the previous time in the videos that pop up in the start of every battle to see what kind of improvement he does. And if you claim it's one try pr. boss then why isn't there a proper intro cutscene in the beginning of every video? Just to make a slight comparison I used 4 hours the other day to get these times: - Klungo 1: 21:10 - Klungo 2: 16:20 - Klungo 3: 19:80 - Old King Coal: 7:60 - Patch: 36:60 - Chili Billi: 33:30 - Chilly Willy: 48:30 - Mingy Jongo: 11:30 I'm telling you: no cheating - he just perfected his battles. |
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Why don't you people just ask him in a comment if he's using TAS? You could probably be able to tell or not depending on what he says.
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I confronted him on personal messages on youtube and he claimed that he put 'a lot of effort in, just look at my megaman vids, im obviously a pro'. then goes on to say that i could do it too if i tried and learned the methods; So i was very sure to explain to him that i've been playing these games for 208x as long as him and invented half the methods he's using in his videos. He had no response.
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Which methods was it you invented? Cause I don't see him using any other than Demon Lab Rats technique for HAG 1, which I gave him. |
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Thanks for that! :D Yeah, 53 seconds is definitely possible. Just attempted the boss again about half an hour ago and destroyed the boils in 26 seconds, and finished with a record time of 0:55.70! (Total=10:26.70) *Insert face that literally explodes with happiness here* Bearing in mind that I did the boils in 21-22 seconds before now, 53 seconds is definitely possible, but I'll be 69 by the time I attain it. :-/ Should I aim to get lower than what I got for this boss, or should I focus on another one? EDIT: Just lowered my Mr Patch enough to get to a point where my total time is exactly 2 seconds more than Weldar-Kazooie's. Not at all certain I can get it as low as Coolboyman's though. And congrats to Jacky Durand for reaching 5th on the leaderboards! |
Thanks, and congrats with your third as well!
I've been getting back to this again lately after two years of absence. I kind of gave up when I figured, that I never could get any better on HAG 1, but the technique you posted has given me new hope. But I started with all the other bosses, because I hate HAG 1, and I haven't tried it yet, so my time is still pathetic 4:23-something, and I'm taking a break now after using 5+ hours on Fak Fak the other day for a pretty unsatisfying time of 1:07:60. So these are the times I have achieved so far with great help from Megadestructor's videos: Klungo 1: 21:10 Klungo 2: 16:20 Klungo 3: 19:80 Targitzan: 47:30 (I only tried this a couple of times, but I was hungover and all the spinning forced me to quit it :) - gonna get back to it though) Old King Coal: 7:60 Mr. Patch: 29:80 Lord Woo Fak Fak: 1:07:60 Terry: 34:50 Weldar: 1:01:90 Chilly Willy: 48:30 Chilli Billi: 32:70 Mingy Jongo: 11:30 HAG 1: 4:23:70 Final time: 11:01:80 |
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But yeah, I know what you mean about HAG 1. 4 minutes seemed impossible to beat when I started that boss. I'm sure you're more than capable of matching me, though, since Hag 1, Lord Woo Fak Fak and Targitzan are the only bosses where I have quicker times than you. Took me hours to beat Lord Woo Fak Fak as well, but I enjoy fighting him. Spent longer on him than Mr Patch. (Which, for me, is surprising given my history against Patch when I was younger) Anyway, hope the time on Fak Fak pays off in the end! :) Gonna post my times now: Klungo 0:21.40 Klungo 2 0:16.50 Klungo 3 0:20.00 Targitzan 0:41.70 Old King Coal 0:09.90 Mr Patch 0:37.50 Lord Woo Fak Fak 0:55.70 Terry 0:38.50 Weldar 1:05.10 Chilly Willy 0:51.40 Chilli Billi 0:34.20 Mingy Jongo 0:13.80 HAG 1 3:12.40 Total: 9:58.10 Position: 1st :rwpunch PUNCH! EDIT: Just beat Chilli Billi quicker (Was 34.9 now 34.2), so the list and total above is updatezedfied |
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I had trouble sleeping last night... and this was probably it.
Good job. Now I need to start playing this again and get it back. |
[too lazy to update scoreboard with everyone's new times, including hax0rz the offline guy]
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I felt it too...I have a new goal to accomplish.
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Oh it is so on.
I'll Put the leaderboards in the OP if you make them again tooie. And i'll try to include as many people as I can, Once yours is made, i'll keep it up to date afterwards. ... When i'm online, feel free to fetch me though. |
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Anyway, my stupid smug face aside, looking forward to challenges from you guys. :D (I do too many faces) And thanks for the compliments! I've also gone and reduced my time some more. I'm an annoying little idiot, aren't I? Klungo 1: 0:21.30 Old King Coal: 0:08.20 New Total= 9:56.30 I now have more than a 3 second lead over CBM's total! *Cue eerie screams coming from CBM's Galactic Fortress* |
Decided to work my lazy ass. I'm reviewing every post after my last scoreboard and updating where necessary.
Klungo 1 1st) 0:21.00 - Coolboyman 1st) 0:21:00 - MegaDestructor9 3rd) 0:21.10 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 0:21.10 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:21.10 - Dan 6th) 0:21.30 - Tooie 6th) 0:21.30 - DemonLabRat Klungo 2 1st) 0:16.20 - MegaDestructor9 1st) 0:16.20 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:16.30 - Coolboyman 3rd) 0:16.30 - Dan 5th) 0:16.40 - Tooie 5th) 0:16.40 - Weldar-Kazooie 7th) 0:16.50 - DemonLabRat Klungo 3 1st) 0:19.50 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:19.70 - Dan 3rd) 0:19.80 - Jacky Durand 4th) 0:19.90 - Coolboyman 4th) 0:19.90 - Tooie 4th) 0:19.90 - Weldar-Kazooie 7th) 0:20.00 - DemonLabRat Targitzan 1st) 0:31.60 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:36.60 - Weldar-Kazooie 3rd) 0:41.70 - DemonLabRat 4th) 0:42.00 - Coolboyman 5th) 0:44.40 - Dan 6th) 0:47.30 - Targitzan 7th) 0:47.70 - Tooie Old King Coal 1st) 0:06.90 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:07.60 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:07.90 - Coolboyman 4th) 0:08.20 - Weldar-Kazooie 4th) 0:08.20 - DemonLabRat 6th) 0:08.80 - Dan 7th) 0:09.40 - Tooie Mr. Patch 1st) 0:28.60 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:29.80 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:37.50 - DemonLabRat 3rd) 0:41.70 - Coolboyman 4th) 0:46.00 - Dan 5th) 0:48.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 7th) 1:12.50 - Tooie Lord Woo Fak Fak 1st) 0:45.00 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:55.70 - DemonLabRat 3rd) 1:01.60 - Weldar-Kazooie 4th) 1:07.60 - Jacky Durand 5th) 1:08.10 - Coolboyman 6th) 1:19.90 - Dan 7th) 1:26.30 - Tooie Terry 1st) 0:33.20 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:34.50 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:34.90 - Coolboyman 4th) 0:38.40 - Weldar-Kazooie 5th) 0:38.50 - DemonLabRat 6th) 0:39.50 - Dan 7th) 0:39.70 - Tooie Weldar 1st) 1:00.90 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 1:01.90 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 1:02.80 - Weldar-Kazooie 4th) 1:02.90 - Coolboyman 5th) 1:04.70 - Tooie 6th) 1:05.00 - Dan 7th) 1:05.10 - DemonLabRat Chilly Willy 1st) 0:48.10 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:48.30 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:51.40 - DemonLabRat 4th) 0:51.60 - Dan 5th) 0:51.90 - Coolboyman 6th) 0:52.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 7th) 0:54.00 - Tooie Chilli Billi 1st) 0:32.60 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:32.70 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:33.50 - DemonLabRat 4th) 0:33.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 4th) 0:33.70 - Dan 6th) 0:34.10 - Coolboyman 7th) 0:35.90 - Tooie Mingy Jongo 1st) 0:09.70 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 0:11.30 - Jacky Durand 3rd) 0:11.40 - Dan 4th) 0:11.50 - Coolboyman 5th) 0:11.60 - Weldar-Kazooie 6th) 0:13.80 - DemonLabRat 7th) 0:15.10 - Tooie Hag 1 1st) 2:54.50 - MegaDestructor9 2nd) 3:07.40 - Coolboyman 3rd) 3:12.40 - DemonLabRat 4th) 3:20.10 - Weldar-Kazooie 5th) 3:40.60 - Tooie 6th) 3:46.20 - Dan 7th) 4:23.70 - Jacky Durand OVERALL 1st) 8:47.80 - MegaDestructor9 (TAS?) 2nd) 9:55.60 - DemonLabRat 3rd) 9:59.60 - Coolboyman 4th) 10:13.70 - Weldar-Kazooie 5th) 11:01.80 - Jacky Durand 6th) 11:17.40 (it's actually a bit lower than this...) - Dan 7th) 11:43.50 - Tooie If we ever get real evidence MD9 used TAS, then I'll remove him from the leaderboards entirely, because that's just cheating. But to be honest in my opinion the fact that no one can replicate most of his scores, evidencing how hard we're trying and we're using the exact same methods, is evidence enough... I'll let you guys decide if he should stay on the leaderboard. Dan had an update for Klungo 1, Klungo 3, and Lord Woo but didn't update his total, so because of his laziness I can't update his total (I updated the individual times, though), because I would most assuredly mess up the math. Well, since he's taking control of the leaderboards now, I guess he can fix it himself. :P I'm amused how I'm last at everything except the Klungos, Weldar, and Hag 1. That makes sense, since I haven't touched it in about 20 months and you guys are still actively improving your scores... One last thing, let me just say, this was a. BITCH. To update. Procrastination hurts. It's all yours from now on, Dan. ;) |
yea yeah yeah we'll see who's boss.
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