Waaaaiiiit a minute...aren't there three levels that Grunty talks in? I believe that it's TTC (stated already), MMM (several times, like when the church door closes before you get there, not including the ones mentioned), and RBB (when you go into the water). There are a total of 4 eggs on all the levels, and I assume we're still sticking to the 4 eggs theory?
Probably irrelevant. Just a thought that I would probably explode about if I didn't say something.

*Sigh* I finally got time to fully explore the theory I was working on, but to no avail. I got the Ice Key, than the 4 eggs in order. Finally I did some major exploring, both in-game and in-code. I recon that this is a dead theory.

Now, my thoughts on the new theory. It is probable, considering that she speaks in that fashion inthe level that arguably has the most to do with SnS. But on the other side of it, why would rare make things messier than they already were with SnS, and involve more elements?

Feel free to disagree with my logic and reasoning. This is just my view on the subject.

Hey guys, this is my first post, but i've been reading EVERYTHING and am completley obsessed with Banjo Kazooie games and SNS. So I'm NO noob at this.

Now gameandwatch says the 4 egg theory is dead, which might have been one of rares attempts to point us in the wrong direction. But I have a theory that I don't believe I've seen. What if say, there were small clues in each level pointing to the answer of sns, maybe even including the intro. They could be clues that when put together (kind of like putting together jigsaw pieces ;). ) would give us another clue that would tell us the final answer...which could end in BK or in BT...parts of SNS could have been secretly put in BT I don't know i'm not saying it was. But i'm gonna go searching through all the levels now to find some clues..

Hmm...what exactly are you looking for? Anything specific? Sounds logical...as logical as everything else we've been attempting lately! Good luck, and welcome, samf!

Samf's theory is certainly a good way of finding more clues...
I remain convinced that only 4 eggs must be collected, and something will happoen if they're done in the right order. Rare like to point us in the wrong direction, but the board seems to likely to be true, for this reason:
When we first saw the board, everyoine said "ah, they're just messing with us." But what if they actually put in a real clue - in full knowledge that no one would take it seriously? It seems all too likely of rare to put in 2 fake eggs to confuse us, and then to mock us about it later...

Another good idea might be to compile some sort of list, of every clue, likely or otherwise, rareware have given us on SnS. It's possible that some of them were overlooked...

HEre's an example. I just found this in rare's scribes, from "March 11, 2005":

And the response:

While I really dont take the BK3 thing seriously, this now makes 3 times rareware have said we're getting close to solving SnS... maybe they're telling the truth?

It also said ashes of the ashes of the ashes that was once Stop n' Swap which to me says it's gone while there may still be something small (and I mean very small) left in BK.

Now, I didn't say the 4 eggs theory is dead. In fact, I believe that it is one of the best leads that we have.

By the way, Welcome to forums.

As for what hatrick said, I am completely with you. I don't like what rare is doing though, they seem like they are helping us with this. Then they seem like they are dodging the issue.

For example, here is a scribe letter:

And here was the answer:

The answer is irrelvent, and far from the answer of the question. SnS a rumor? Rumors are fake, while SnS is very real.

That particular Scribes answer was a joke. The person writing the letter asked that the question not be answered in a comical or sarcastic way, so he was given a bland, form response. (Those who read Gamespot's Rumor Control will know that this is what most companies say when they don't want to comment on or reveal something).

In fact, at the end of answer, readers were asked to "ask for the sarcastic version" next time. Still sounds like a glimmer of hope to me.

I believe that maybe rare is saying we're narrowing all the theories down and getting close to the correct one, rather than we're actually getting the final answer.
But what makes the solving SNS the hardest is the fact that the answers to our theories could be in any of rares games. Though I have a feeling we will finally solve this Puzzle soon. but HOW soon?

I belive sns will be found someday

i'm sure about it, ut can pass years, but i'm completely sure that some day rare is going to reveal all this mistery around SnS

While I would like to find whatever remnants of SnS are in BK, I'm mindful (in fact, pretty sure) that what we find is going to be underwhelming. Chances are whatever it is is fairly small, and is intended to unlock something in BT.

It's possible that, in finding Bottles' Revenge, we've already solved half the mystery. What we find in BK could simply be the thing which was going to activate Bottles' Revenge.

Or maybe it's just a simple "put in bt" message or a "now you can use devil bottles (or wathever)" but anyway, it has to be there.

out of topic, regarding to your signature Ferminus, I can't add you to my msn list since your msn adress is not public

Hmmm...here's another thought. What if we try playing the game straight through, however, while playing, we collect the eggs we believe are needed...in order. Even the Ice Key. Maybe we should only get them as the levels unlock...I dunno. Just another SnS "thought nugget"! ;)