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Old 9th January 2008, 08:03 PM
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Exclamation Why did people expect so much from SnS?

Ok I've read loads of theories on SnS and pretty much all of them seem to assume that it would unlock whole new levels and other program intensive exclusive things, but the thing is if rare were going to program a whole level why would they lock it up for only the people who have BK to play? surely that's a lot of effort to not let everyone have access to. Why don't people just accept that maybe SnS was only ever going to be a few small unlocks like dragon kazooie and extra characters in multiplayer? Is it because we were denied it that we built it up to be something far grander than it ever would have been? In fact on reflection I think I've had much more fun through being denied SnS than if Rare had made it in the end. It definitely made BK and BT a much more cult game than it would otherwise have been


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Old 9th January 2008, 08:27 PM
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Is it because we were denied it that we built it up to be something far grander than it ever would have been?
Bingo.



1998 - Secret eggs and ice key? Banjo-Tooie? Meh. Okay.
1999 - Stop 'n Swop? More eggs? Hmm.
2000 - Banjo-Tooie's out, no sign of any connection.
2001 - No word from Rare. What could this have been?
2002 - Okay, Rare have been bought out. They have no loyalty to Nintendo now, they can spill the beans!
2003 - WHY WON'T THEY TALK?!?!
2004 - HAY U NO WHAT, MABE SNS CAN BE REMADE ON XBOX?!?
2005 - HAI GUYS LOL MAYBE TEH OBSCURE MARK IN SOME RANDOM TEXTURE MEANS SOMETHIANG?!?!
2006 - WHAT IF THIS WAS THE ANSWAR TO LIEF?!!?!?
2007 - Banjo-Theories forum created.

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Old 9th January 2008, 09:39 PM
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Why don't people just accept that maybe SnS was only ever going to be a few small unlocks like dragon kazooie and extra characters in multiplayer?
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Is it because we were denied it that we built it up to be something far grander than it ever would have been?
Actually, everyone is confused because they don't get that it went through different stage's to become what it is. BK -> Dk64, BK -> BT.

It's not just stop N swop, here. People go Berserk over Bottle's Revenge, Ridiculously secret area 1, Tower room, and other small secrets. They then try to link those secret's together to make them seem like they are part of one BIG overall secret.

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Why don't people just accept that maybe SnS was only ever going to be a few small unlocks like dragon kazooie and extra characters in multiplayer?
I don't think they care what it unlocked, it's more like HOW they were to be unlocked. That's where most of the theories come in .

But we really know it went something like this...

-Find a clue in BT, such as the pink egg picture in Jolly's bar.
-Activate certain event in that area.
-Flag's set into memory
-Turn off n64, replace cartridge with BK
-Turn on n64, BK read's flagged data and set's a variable in memory unlocking secret area's.
-Grab secret item(ice key, egg's), and banjo Kazooie will set a flag in memory.
-Turn off N64 and replace with Banjo tooie.
-Turn on N64, Banjo tooie read's flag data and set's a variable in memory setting the secret item's in your inventory.
-Give secret item's to correct character, and recieve your prize.

THE END!

Anyone who understand's Stop N Swop know's that it work's like this. It's all based on evidence. People try to create stupid alternative theories as to how it worked, and because they wan't to believe that it work's that way, they start believing their own theories, instead of basing it on evidence.

Basically, the N64 was a very experimental machine. Many different thing's were tested on it that never worked out. For example, the DD64 which only lived for about a year after it's release, because nintendo kept putting it off.


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Old 10th January 2008, 08:00 AM
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People believed in many possible SNS prizes:
-Mount Fire Eyes in BK,
-Fungus Forest in BK,
-Hammerhead Beach in BK,
-fire,grenade and ice eggs from BT in BK,
-Bottles' Revenge mode in BT (BanjoPL )
-co-op mode in BT,
-Silo 8,Silo 9,Ridiculously Secret Area 1
-all BK levels in BT,

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Old 10th January 2008, 08:14 AM
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After dead of "SNS=BR" theory only small hope left..."collect ice key,collect 4 eggs,activate secret level".
No, actually, there is NO hope. Sorry.


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Old 10th January 2008, 01:27 PM
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Why is it that after newbies see 4 SNS threads, they assume the entire forum is enveloped by it?


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Old 10th January 2008, 09:45 PM
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Ive seen more than 4, Ive been on a different bt forum for years. I dont just mean levels here, I'm talking about the general theory that SnS will unlock something massive and still undiscovered.


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Old 11th January 2008, 03:41 AM
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What? No one's ever assumed that...


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Old 11th January 2008, 03:54 AM
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Here's my (crazy) theory: Rare put the eggs and the Ice Key in BK with no intention of it having any other purpose than to drive you all insane.
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Old 11th January 2008, 04:13 AM
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Here's my (crazy) theory: Rare put the eggs and the Ice Key in BK with no intention of it having any other purpose than to drive you all insane.
That actually sounds like something Rare would do


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Old 11th January 2008, 06:20 AM
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Hey, at least it kills the time to solve SNS while waiting for BK3.


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Old 11th January 2008, 07:24 AM
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I remember back in the days when I was just a lurker, about a year and a half ago, there was a lot of stuff being said about those extra silos banjoPL mentioned earlier, then I forgot about SnS for a little while and now there seems to be no one talking about it, What did I miss?
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Old 11th January 2008, 07:45 PM
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What? No one's ever assumed that...
Like I said I was on a different forum for a while, quite a few theories like that. Guess it was a bit stupid of me to assume it was the same here


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Old 11th January 2008, 07:50 PM
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I remember back in the days when I was just a lurker, about a year and a half ago, there was a lot of stuff being said about those extra silos banjoPL mentioned earlier, then I forgot about SnS for a little while and now there seems to be no one talking about it, What did I miss?
You missed CBM's fake extra Egg's theory. A whole load of TB discoveries such as the Stop N Swop flag's being found in memory, and that ridiculous memory 20 theory I came up with .

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Like I said I was on a different forum for a while, quite a few theories like that. Guess it was a bit stupid of me to assume it was the same here
Nah, it's fine.

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Here's my (crazy) theory: Rare put the eggs and the Ice Key in BK with no intention of it having any other purpose than to drive you all insane.
Yes, Rare is cruel .


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Old 12th January 2008, 06:28 AM
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You missed CBM's fake extra Egg's theory. A whole load of TB discoveries such as the Stop N Swop flag's being found in memory, and that ridiculous memory 20 theory I came up with .
You forgot my Giant's Lair theory. I see how it is rune, no cake for you...


 


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