Banjo Thought Thread

[Pies]

Nuts & Bolts was the reason I picked up an Xbox 360, so I am grateful for that.

Also joined this fine website around its release. It brought me here.

[Pstriple]

Remember, N&B bashers.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[dragon_kazoooie]

Also we likely wouldn't have Tears of the Kingdom without it.

[qwertykins76]

I have grown to rather detest the "it was designed to be hard, therefore the level is BAD" mentality that plagues people's perceptions of RBB and GI.

Basically just "I died a lot, and that inconvenienced me by forcing me to put actual effort in and hone my skills/brainpower, and boy I did not like that one bit!". It's lame and dumb.

[Mr. Airplane]

If you think hard is fun and tedious is hard, I'm starting to understand why you like Banjo.Tooie

[Pies]

Banjo Tooie best game.

Not even best BK game, best game of all games.

[Mr. Airplane]

People will just say anything on the internet these days

[qwertykins76]

Banjo-Tooie is a game.

[Pies]

I was saying this stuff back in 2008 and I'm still saying it now!

It was an interconnected open-world masterpiece.

[Zondekel]

Originally Posted by Pies

Not even best BK game, best game of all games.

Not sure how you can say that when Super Mario Sunshine is right there.

[Pies]

Originally Posted by Zondekel

Not sure how you can say that when Super Mario Sunshine is right there.

Sunshine did not let you go to different levels within other levels. No inter-connectedness, It just had a standard hub world boo.

Sunshine had the rudeness to let you see other levels in the distance, but not let you actually get to them. Boooooo!

[Mandolin]

Originally Posted by qwertykins76

I have grown to rather detest the "it was designed to be hard, therefore the level is BAD" mentality that plagues people's perceptions of RBB and GI.

Basically just "I died a lot, and that inconvenienced me by forcing me to put actual effort in and hone my skills/brainpower, and boy I did not like that one bit!". It's lame and dumb.

This. Any game that expects you to actually practice and get good in order to win is "dated" and "inaccessible." I've seen people argue that every game should let you skip bosses. Scrubs these days have no sense of shame.

[Zondekel]

Accessibility options are never a bad thing.

[qwertykins76]

Okay sure but also skipping entire boss fights doesn't qualify as an accessibility option imo. "I should be able to just skip all the hard and annoying stuff" isn't really a mentality that game creators should be catering to, it makes the experience worse for people who aren't whiny babies about stuff

[Zondekel]

How does having the option to lessen the difficulty make it worse for the "Hardcore Gamer" crowd?