The RWP

Cryptek · #1 24th August 2006, 11:12 PM

Before I start, let me say that I HAVE tried to catch myself up on previous discussions of SnS. If I repeat past theory, then I do. It's going to happen. I've seen longstanding members throwing fits over "newbs" spouting old theories. Yes, they could have looked at the FAQ, etc. However, there's a LOT of stuff to read over and I think we all know how excited we were when we had an epiphany about a possible way to make SnS work. Newbs happen. They can also become longstanding, productive members and I think it is unfair to jump all over them for being new. We all were at one time, so just breathe. lol Anyways . . .

I think it's time for a serious SnS discussion. I want to see this thread become a place to espouse solid, REAL theories. If you give a theory, back it up with something. Explain why it may work, what led you to the conclusions you made, etc. This will hopefully help to keep this thread clear of "OMFG I FOUNDZ D PRECIOUSSSSSSS OMFGWTF!!!!ELEVENTY-ONE!!" type of posts.

Now for my thoughts:

I think we may be over-complicating things. Is it not possible that to "swop", all you were supposed to do is highlight an item in SnS and then swap cartridges? A special area to do the swapping does not seem nescessary in my eyes. I've read that someone attempted hot-swapping, which to my understanding means pulling out the cartridge while the machine is on. This is very bad. It can corrupt the cartridge and will most-definately freeze the game up. Cold swapping makes more sense.

We all should know about the whole "retaining memory for thirty seconds" thing by now. My proposal is to bring up the SnS menu, select an item, then turn off the system. Quickly turn off the system, switch carts and then turn the system back on.

Nothing may happen. However, it would be one less possibility. If nothing happens, it could mean one of two things: That's the right thing to do, but Rare didn't program Tooie to accept what's on the memory chip, or it is completely wrong.

I now leave you to beat the crap out of the new guy. I've said my piece and I leave it to you to make of it what you will. Good luck, and all that.

Cryptek

P_L · #2 24th August 2006, 11:17 PM

this is indeed an interesting and logical idea. Except ...

... the only buttons/controller parts that do anything on the Stop 'n Swop screen are the B button (go back), control stick (select totals screen to view), and Start (Un-Pause). Therefore, there isn't any way to select an item.

If you know of a way to interact with the SnS items screen, though, please do feel free to explain.

Grey Jinjo · #3 25th August 2006, 12:14 AM

Also, the thirty second thing was removed and reduced to a more ridiculous two or so seconds. I believe it was the addition of the expansion pack that trimmed the original number, but I could be wrong.

Additional Note: It's common courtesy to read the rules of a place before you go in it. I can understand them not searching for a similar topic, but really... they could at least read the Banjo FAQ. It's completely ignorant to just jump into a new topic without doing so.

OmniMan · #4 25th August 2006, 01:09 AM

I have eventually been lead to beleive that stop N Swop is a abandon feature in BK and was eventually exploited in BT with the 3 eggs and the ice key. They accidentally left SNS in BK as a mistake, i guess...

DemyGod · #5 25th August 2006, 01:28 AM

I just hope they anwser our questions about SNS so we can shutup.

I hate wondering about it and reading fake ways to unlock it.

ByroDaMan · #6 25th August 2006, 07:25 AM

I have 2 theory's

The first is that there are 2 fake eggs, you've probably already heard of this... but I beleve this is true.

But I think that if you get a fake egg you cant get Stop 'n' Swop, and it goes onto all 3 save files and cant be deleated, even with gameshark

My second theiry is that behind one of the doors in the transfiguration room there is a secret room where you activate Stop 'n' Swop

I know that there is really nothing there (ive used gameshark and tested it myself), but mabye somewere in the games programing there is a duplicate of that section on the lair which is exactly the same, but the door is open and you can go through to a secret room. But no-one has found how to get to the duplicate room yet.

Anyway thats my theory

BanjoPL · #7 25th August 2006, 09:27 AM

I will back to discussion about SNS after certain game released...
V... P.....

Vangar · #8 25th August 2006, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cryptek

I want to see this thread become a place to espouse solid, REAL theories. If you give a theory, back it up with something.

No theory is solid or real. They all have holes and problems, thats why they are theories.

DemyGod · #9 25th August 2006, 01:15 PM

I wish it was something so simple like beating it in all three files with 100% and then from there you have to do stuff to unlock SNS.

Platinum Jinjo · #10 25th August 2006, 01:45 PM

this doesn't sound very serious to me just more speculation , thats all there is to talk about i guess endless theories and idea's that amount to nothing. I'm not talking to an individual just the whole idea of a serious SNS thread. If this is serious RWP is doomed. Anyway the SNS hacking team is a bit more serious don't you think? At least their doing something , their actively searching the game not just posting theories and idea's that in the end , are empty and pointless. Just a thought to ponder before you toss out so called serious theories and idea's on the banjo discussion board. Well I hope no one is offended by my remarks , But it is a view held by many people on this forum , thank you.

DemyGod · #11 25th August 2006, 05:54 PM

These days I don't even care about unlocking it, just want to know what it was and what it did. And playing my favorite level in Dk64, Fungi/Fungus Forest.