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Old 27th July 2007, 09:26 AM
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If this is true then this will be another FP-FF connection.
FP is 5th level in BK-FF is 5th level in DK64.
FP entrance is Advent Calendar-music in FF is similiar to Advent tune.
But Rare's Patent said that "At the side of the huge Blocked Icy Cave is a lever."


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Old 27th July 2007, 02:02 PM
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If this is true then this will be another FP-FF connection.
FP is 5th level in BK-FF is 5th level in DK64.
FP entrance is Advent Calendar-music in FF is similiar to Advent tune.
But Rare's Patent said that "At the side of the huge Blocked Icy Cave is a lever."
yes maybe there is a connection there. I'll have to hack both the caverns and the forest to find it.

The trigger for the ice key is [0004] which should process (you've already activated and collected the key) while the trigger [0200] opens the ice key area.

so basicly DK64 has to trigger [0200] which should show the cutcam just fine, and then you go get it.

when you have no SNS items its [0000] and when you have all the SNS items at the same time its [FFFF] and that should stop SNS from working.

the triggers for the SNS eggs are as followed:
[0400] First Trigger - Opens Wine Barrel {cyan}
[0800] Second Trigger - Raises Sharkfood Island {pink}
[1000] Third Trigger - Opens Gobi Valley Door {blue}
the other triggers function a bit different:
[2000] Puts Green Egg on Loggo
[4000] puts red egg on the bed
[8000] puts yellow egg on the table

so then, maybe you unlock the first 3 from DK64 and the other 3 from BT and they all are ment for BT not DK64.
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Old 27th July 2007, 06:52 PM
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How the hell has this topic lasted since January?
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Old 27th July 2007, 06:58 PM
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Don't question it, Dylan, just agree and accept it.


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Old 28th July 2007, 12:20 AM
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How the hell has this topic lasted since January?
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Old 28th July 2007, 03:42 AM
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We must do some freeze digits in DK to see if there really is a cutcam.
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Old 28th July 2007, 04:00 AM
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On the same note, we should get this topic stickied.


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Old 28th July 2007, 04:19 AM
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Just wait till you hear the TECHY side of SNS.


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Old 28th July 2007, 07:14 AM
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ok 2 things 1. we wont reaLLY need this topic stickied because it hardly ever moves down more than 3 spots and 2. what is the chance that we will find something new? is it like 1/10000 or like what?


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Old 28th July 2007, 09:21 AM
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Old 28th July 2007, 02:27 PM
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yes it should.

But im curious to know if [0200] is really in DK64.

First you pull the lever, [????] then you see the cutcam [????], then swaping to BK activates [0200] which opens the ice key area. when you get the ice key it changes from [0200] to [0004] then you swap [????] and the ice key trigger in DK64 is activated.

But what im wondering is, Theres got to be a value that means to can SWAP.

since [0200] is the trigger and [0400] starts the egg area. Maybe [0300] is the ability to swop.

theres enough hex values apart with the cyan, blue, and pink eggs to have a swop.

the triggers for the SNS eggs are as followed:
[0400] First Trigger - Opens Wine Barrel {cyan}
[0800] Second Trigger - Raises Sharkfood Island {pink}
[1000] Third Trigger - Opens Gobi Valley Door {blue}
the other triggers function a bit different:
[2000] Puts Green Egg on Loggo
[4000] puts red egg on the bed
[8000] puts yellow egg on the table

Quote: Steve

so then [0500] could swap the cyan egg [0900] could swap the pink egg, and [1050] could be the blue egg.

The blue egg dosent have enough values apart to hide something, but there could still be [1050] or something.

The other eggs however have no values apart, so maybe they are triggered by swaping something from DK64 after whacking something in the ice key room.
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Old 28th July 2007, 09:21 PM
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Quick note: there are two bits in the SNS mod address (80283400) that don't appear to do anything. GM2k mapped out all the possible values a while back, but no matter what combination of bits 1 and 2 he tried, nothing happened.


I applaud this you guys for researching and hacking, instead of making baseless theories that should never have seen the light of day.
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Quick note: there are two bits in the SNS mod address (80283400) that don't appear to do anything. GM2k mapped out all the possible values a while back, but no matter what combination of bits 15 and 16 he tried, nothing happened.
Thanks Icy guy, I might know what these values are used for.

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I applaud this you guys for researching and hacking, instead of making baseless theories that should never have seen the light of day.
Thats what we do best.

Steve, the eggs I dont believe are as important as focusing on the Ice key, however we have no reliable info source on them so...we dont really know what they were used for.

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But what im wondering is, Theres got to be a value that means to can SWAP.
If it is hot-swappable, then yes there would be a value in ~memory~ indicating that the games could be swapped. If it was cold-swappable however, you could take the game out at any time after you collected the ice-key and swap it with DK64. But we cant tell if it which one was to be used yet.

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First you pull the lever, [????] then you see the cutcam [????], then swaping to BK activates [0200] which opens the ice key area.
Your on the right track, remember that the flag is placed in ~memory~ as soon as you pull the lever. However flags and triggers are different things. But flags can affect triggers.

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Well...i collected ice key and all eggs in Banjo-Kazooie but i will test this:
1.I will type sandcastle code for red egg.
2.Then captain's'cabin will be show.
(without egg of course)
3.Hot/cold swapping to Banjo-Tooie.
What cheats can you repeatedly type in? Are all Cheato cheats repeatable, or can you only type some in only once per game-play?

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Old 29th July 2007, 12:29 AM
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i tested it, the value changed to [0500] and it triggered the yellow egg ????????????????????

im gonna do a value search
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Old 29th July 2007, 06:11 PM
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Well runehero123...in 2003 i collected all eggs and key in BK via sandcastle codes so now i can't remove SNS screen.
Few days ago i tested my idea and it failed.When i took out BK and inserted BT console freeze.I used only sandcastle code for red egg.


 

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