The RWP

Armada · #1 28th February 2009, 07:29 PM

This isn't a theory about how "Mount Fire Eyes is in B-K", or "I found Mount Fire Eyes by beating the game 10000000 times". Rather, it's based on information I've gathered. I'll keep it in a logical order and concise.

I mean to disprove the fact that Mount Fire Eyes is only the fire side of Hailfire Peaks. Instead I mean to prove that it is all of Hailfire Peaks.

A. Gobi's Comment in Click Clock Wood
In Banjo-Kazooie, Gobi says he's had enough of getting beat up by the bear-and-bird for water, and tells them he's going to "Mount Fire Eyes". This establishes the area as some place outside of Click Clock Wood. As it isn't in Banjo-Kazooie, and Rare had expressed plans to make a sequel (as shown by the credits and Stop 'N' Swop), Mount Fire Eyes was planned for this next game.

He actually goes to "Lava World". I guess this is what they were calling the Fire Side of Hailfire Peaks initially. Doesn't disprove anything else stated, so read the struckout text if you want.

B. Hailfire Peaks
Now, as we all know, Banjo-Tooie never featured the infamous "Mount Fire Eyes". Instead, it featured Hailfire Peaks, which had a fire side where Gobi was found. So the "Mount Fire Eyes" Gobi went to was the fire side of Hailfire Peaks. That is what current accepted information and theories support.

C. The Wordplay of "Mount Fire Eyes"
Mount Fire Eyes is simply wordplay. Since it became Hailfire Peaks, this is very easy to prove. Hailfire Peaks is two Mountains. It also has a Fire side and an ice side. Not getting the wordplay? Ice sounds like Eyes. Thus, if you say it out loud, it sounds like you're saying "Mount Fire Ice". This leads me to believe Mount Fire Eyes was an early name for Hailfire Peaks. Since names change a lot in development ("Hammer Head Beach" to "Treasure Trove Cove", and a giant to a witch) this point is supported.

So, to recap, Gobi mentions a "Mount Fire Eyes" in Banjo-Kazooie. The name mentions fire and ice using wordplay. Banjo-Tooie is made, the name changes to "Hailfire Peaks" but the "Fire/Ice" theme remains. Gobi is found in the fire side, thus tying all the information together.

Anyway, make what you will of it, but it all makes sense to me. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Deebs · #2 28th February 2009, 07:31 PM

Wow, that was actually a pretty good theory!

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Originally Posted by Armada

C. The Wordplay of "Mount Fire Eyes"
Mount Fire Eyes is simply wordplay. Since it became Hailfire Peaks, this is very easy to prove. Hailfire Peaks is two Mountains. It also has a Fire side and an ice side. Not getting the wordplay? Ice sounds like Eyes. Thus, if you say it out loud, it sounds like you're saying "Mount Fire Ice". This leads me to believe Mount Fire Eyes was an early name for Hailfire Peaks. Since names change a lot in development ("Hammer Head Beach" to "Treasure Trove Cove", and a giant to a witch) this point is supported.

Wow, i never thought of that.

Great first theory!

The Banjonator · #3 28th February 2009, 07:31 PM

Gobi is in CCW?
Sorry, it's been so long.......

Awesome theory, but what about the "fiery eyes" all over Gruntilda's lair. Everyone told me that it was connected to Mt. fire eyes. Something about the final level in B-K.

Deebs · #4 28th February 2009, 07:32 PM

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Gobi is in CCW?

Ahh, you made a mistake Armada. Gobi is in Gobi's Valley and nowhere else.

Ozimul · #5 28th February 2009, 07:38 PM

Actually, after you kick him out of the valley, he DOES go to CCW.

The Banjonator · #6 28th February 2009, 07:39 PM

What? Where does he go in CCW?

Armada · #7 28th February 2009, 07:42 PM

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What? Where does he go in CCW?

By the big flower. You have to water it to get a Jiggy.

EDIT: You have to Beak Bust him again to make him spit water on it. In summer, I believe. Thought I'd elaborate more.

eioozak ojnab · #8 28th February 2009, 07:45 PM

He is in CCW.

King Minjaling · #9 28th February 2009, 07:45 PM

He stays near to that giant flower you grow after throwing five eggs into a small hole on the ground. You can only see him in Summer and Falls.

The Banjonator · #10 28th February 2009, 08:04 PM

Wow, it's been a while. I completely forgot about him there.

rarefreak99 · #11 28th February 2009, 08:41 PM

I am intrigued, good job.

Weldar-Kazooie · #12 28th February 2009, 08:42 PM

Amazing Theory

Though there's one problem...

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Originally Posted by Armada

A. Gobi's Comment in Click Clock Wood
In Banjo-Kazooie, Gobi says he's had enough of getting beat up by the bear-and-bird for water, and tells them he's going to "Mount Fire Eyes". This establishes the area as some place outside of Click Clock Wood. As it isn't in Banjo-Kazooie, and Rare had expressed plans to make a sequel (as shown by the credits and Stop 'N' Swop), Mount Fire Eyes was planned for this next game.

While in CCW, Gobi never said he was going to "Mount Fire Eyes" rather he said he's "off to the Lava World". That little misinformation doesnt disprove the theory in any way though, as it still established the fact that he was going to a place outside of CCW. Nice find, I'm impressed that someone could come up with something like this from just a single sentence or two from Gobi

Whyme123 · #13 28th February 2009, 08:49 PM

Or, Fire Eyes could just mean two mountains, that if you look at it from above, look like eyes -.-

Deebs · #14 28th February 2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Whyme123

Or, Fire Eyes could just mean two mountains, that if you look at it from above, look like eyes -.-

Thats also a good point.

Armada · #15 28th February 2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Weldar-Kazooie

Amazing Theory

Though there's one problem...

While in CCW, Gobi never said he was going to "Mount Fire Eyes" rather he said he's "off to the Lava World".

Whoops. That's my bad. But you're right that it doesn't discredit the rest. I'll change that.