Rare CONFIRMS removal of Stop N Swop!!

[Lady G0 Lucky]

Originally Posted by Kez

Damn, flame war here

Um, yeah. I think they're lying. And yes, you probably will think i'm a retard conspiracist, but meh.

If they didn't want to be reminded of Stop n Swop 7 years after the game was completed, why on EARTH did they leave the items and that ending in BK?! You're not telling me it just "slipped"! Plus, while the argument is that Rare likes to tease, putting in hints in their games about it is not clever and will only hype it up more, so they are setting themselves up. I don't believe SNS is fully functional, but anything is possible. Rare is possible of lying, you know. Didn't they say Bottles' Revenge wasn't there? Didn't they say those Goldeneye codes weren't there?

(Oh, and if i'm wrong about any of my points, correct me, but don't bother flaming, please, it's immature.)

Dude, I would high-five you right now. I completely agree, because you're right; Rare did lie about BR and the codes. Besides, 5 more eggs have been found in BT and the items stayed even though they say SNS has been completely canned.

[Start Rant]

... I don't see the point of Rare lying their way through responses such as these, unless they love to play with our heads and want to keep their game mysteries as a type of Hide and Seek game. Maybe that's what they want us to, for all we know! They could have hid the items of purpose and just say that SNS is a joke, leaving us hungry for real answers and the to find the answers ourselves because we know that Rare is never going to give us a real answer.

Asides from that, in the interview with that Rare employee in the video, the guy was blinking. He was blinking! He was going, uuhhh... This shows a sign of lies.

[End Rant]

Then again, all of this is all part of my humble, opinionistic mind.

[runehero123]

The only thing i could almost confirm a lie is the GBTG board which im not sure but i dont think anyone brought up on this topic. Also i do believe there are more sns related remnants with all those freeze digits in bt and bk anyways. So only time will tell.

[LaorBR]

Originally Posted by Kez

If they didn't want to be reminded of Stop n Swop 7 years after the game was completed, why on EARTH did they leave the items and that ending in BK?!

Because the items actually had a purpose up until that point?

Originally Posted by Kez

Plus, while the argument is that Rare likes to tease, putting in hints in their games about it is not clever and will only hype it up more

That reference in Jetpac:Refueled was, in one word, brilliant. It practically made our whole forum watch the trailer, I can't think of better publicity than that.
Btw, the game looks great for a live marketplace title.

Originally Posted by Kez

Rare is possible of lying, you know. Didn't they say Bottles' Revenge wasn't there?

Actually they didn't. IIRC they said on the scribes that BR was fully functional.

Originally Posted by Kez

Didn't they say those Goldeneye codes weren't there?

They only stated that Citadel was a deleted level, which in fact it was.
The only leftover from Citadel was its 3D model, all the clipping and solidity was missing (probably lost with an early source code) and had to be restored by hand by a hacker.
I don't know what are those other "codes" you're talking about.

[Hakey Wake]

I believe they denied the existance of "push button codes" in Goldeneye..when..there were codes there (according to Nintendo Official Magazine). But I mean..those were most likely debug and would simplify the game so it makes sense to keep them under wraps.

Ya they did admit Bottles Revenge was still there methinks.

[Ice Lightning]

They also said all traces of the other Bond characters in Goldenye were removed, and their suits, faces and pictures were all found in memory

Although, that was sort of to not get them sued and all

[branmuffin]

Originally Posted by Lady G0 Lucky

Asides from that, in the interview with that Rare employee in the video, the guy was blinking. He was blinking! He was going, uuhhh... This shows a sign of lies.

Not signs of lying but signs of not revealing... Or signs of the unexpected. Maybe Rare just started making BK3 now for sort of a ... Cool down, so we forget about SNS and bring it back. He didn't say that they cancelled it, he said he thinks they stopped it. I might just be bringing up a useless argument but I had to bring that up.

[Nick]

Do I have to make another speculation rant ><

[Whyme123]

The most I've gathered, both from the new article and the vid, it was canned in the N64, but it MIGHT come back in 360.

[Campusanis]

I just watched the movie and I just can't understand what he says about SnS in BK3, because the interviewer doesn't have his microphone ready... Any help?

By the way, I like that guy, just the way I pictured Rare.

[Shaz]

I really think it not gonna be in the 360..but who knows.

[runehero123]

Well now that subdrag has released the decompression tool for the rare games, we may find some new SNS things.

[hatrickpatrick]

They did very bluntly state that there were no button codes in Goldeneye...

[SubDrag]

Originally Posted by hatrickpatrick

They did very bluntly state that there were no button codes in Goldeneye...

I assume you mean PD, because in GE Rare released one button code, and never said anything about the others till dr. Ian hacked it out.

[Articerile]

Originally Posted by whyme123

but it MIGHT come back in 360.

Nope, not going to happen
The entire point of SnS is to swap between to games.

Are there two Banjo games coming out? No...just the one.

[ConkerKing]

Wait..what about the article my friend? Didn't they say they might put it back in?

Also:They can swap with Kameo or GBTG, it dosn't necisarally have to be a Banjo game, just a Rare game.