Bottles' Glasses

[Breegullbeak]

Originally Posted by True_Dude

Quick question, will this eventually have Conker's Bad Fur Day support? (After DK64, anyways) Any other games BG will support? And on that note, will the Utility of Time support Majora's Mask eventually?

Bottles Glasses can support DK64, BK, and BT, because they all run on the same modified Super Mario 64 Engine. I'm pretty sure Conker doesn't run on the same engine, but I could be wrong.

I'm pretty sure MM and OoT share an Engine, but I don't really keep up with that.

Also Cooliscool, is there any updates, or have you been busy with more important things.(Like Life)

[collecter]

I read somewhere that the first version of the OOT engine was retooled from the Super Mario 64 engine... But I don't know if it is still similar enough after it was modified for the game.

[Mombi Jombo]

Look i find a error (don't be surprised with this things in portugese i'm brazilian)

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

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System.BadImageFormatException: Foi feita uma tentativa de se carregar um programa com um formato incorreto. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x8007000B)
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at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Mes sage& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Mess age& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.O nMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.W ndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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BK_Viewer
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Tao.DevIl
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[Breegullbeak]

Originally Posted by collecter

I read somewhere that the first version of the OOT engine was retooled from the Super Mario 64 engine... But I don't know if it is still similar enough after it was modified for the game.

OOT was built on a modified SM64 engine, but I doubt it shares an engine with Banjo. Of course I could be wrong about that last part.

[lemurboy12]

Diddy Kong Racing and Jet Force Gemini run on the same engine.
Goldeneye and Perfect Dark run on the same engine.
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask run on the same engine.
Most N64 games by Nintendo run on Super Mario 64's engine.

[spoondiddly]

Originally Posted by lemurboy12

Diddy Kong Racing and Jet Force Gemini run on the same engine.
Goldeneye and Perfect Dark run on the same engine.
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask run on the same engine.
Most N64 games by Nintendo run on Super Mario 64's engine.

Nothing personal, but that is heavily oversimplifying things. PD was built on GE's framework, but virtually nothing--down to file storage and display output--is even remotely the same. You can't even find the same motion physics. PD is more similiar to BT than either is to GE or BK.

Engines weren't bandied about as much as code was. There's a development website called warioworld.com which had samples of code, and not just Nintendo's. Many games borrow simple compression schemes (as in exact code) and alter headers as needed. We aren't just talking MIO0 and Yaz0, but RLE and HUFFman types. After Zelda you see the microcode used by everyone is Zelda's, and eventually there was 3rd party mp3 output.

[Breegullbeak]

Kazooie, Tooie, and DK use the exact same engine. Not other games are built on the same engine to my knowledge. Any slight modification to the engine would make the engine no longer the same as the BK engine and therefore, it would not work in Bottle's Glasses.

[Ice Mario]

BT does not use the exact same engine as BK.

[lemurboy12]

I don't see anything. All I get is a white, crashed screen.

[thecakeisalie81]

Originally Posted by cooliscool

Thanks for the encouraging words. Much appreciated.

Speaking of which, my Zelda 64 editor's coming a long way, too. It's been distracting me from BG recently, thanks to the fact that OoT's a "wee bit" more complex than BK.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7...pboard02mg.jpg

DROOOOOOOOLLLL....

[Breegullbeak]

Originally Posted by Ice Mario

BT does not use the exact same engine as BK.

Alright, not the exact same engine, but they all built off one another so they are very similar.

[Rock]

Originally Posted by Ice Mario

BT does not use the exact same engine as BK.

Yeah, but only very slight changes surely.

[thecakeisalie81]

Download links for latest version are broken.

[Karsten95]

Is the Project canceled ?

[Mombi Jombo]

Originally Posted by Karsten95

Is the Project canceled ?

Is sure this