Stop 'n' Swop Mumbo Magic

[Rusty Bucket]

When I was theorizing about stop n swop I started thinking about the Mumbo transformations Banjo takes during BK. There are 5 different transformations:

Termite
Crocodile
Walrus
Pumpkin
Honey Bee

At first I thought that it didn't make sense, with 5 transformations and 6 sns eggs. But then I remembered the sandcastle codes that Rare Witch Project found in BK. One of them was WISHYWASHYBANJO, and turned banjo into a washing machine. Although you got this transformation was not given to you by Mumbo, it was still a transformation.

The way I see it, if the sns eggs were brought to BT, Humba Wumba would turn Banjo into the corresponding transformation from BK. The special transformations would not be necessary, so BK would not be required to complete BT, but the sns eggs would give considerable advantages to whoever used them, such as flying, biting, or swimming in cold water.

I don't know about the ice key, but I assume it could be used as a spare key to open the ice side of Hailfire Peaks.

[Deebs]

I don't know about the ice key, but I assume it could be used as a spare key to open the ice side of Hailfire Peaks.

If that were true, you wouldn't be able to complete the game.

And your theory is alright, but if you had the BK transformations, you'd be restricted. If you were the termite, how would you get to certain places in the game?

You have the right idea, but you need to think it through. The transformations were ment to be only slight. Like banjo becoming a polar bear rather than a normal bear. And kazooie being a dragon. Not a completely amazing change.

WIth an exception of the washing machine

[Banjo cracker]

I believe that bottles gives you the code "wishywashybanjo."

[pokemega32]

First of all, as Banjo cracker said, WishyWashyBanjo was the code given for completing Bottles' last challenge...

Second, even if the eggs DID unlock transformations, the Washer is already in Tooie, so that doesn't actually add anything to the game...

And @ DragonBottles:

Wasn't the Polar Bear Banjo thing from a fake interview?

[KKman]

No. We already know what you get in Banjo Tooie for Stop N Swop. Drsgon Kazooie and other things like that. The only thing missing was a couple eggs.

[Silent Warrior]

Although this is highly unlikely to be true, it's very unique and neatly put together. Bottles was the one who told you the code to enter at the Sandcastle in order to transform into a washing machine.

Let's suppose that your theory was true, and the transformations were connected with each Stop & Swop egg. It probably wouldn't have been the washing machine. It would of been the secret transformation that was unlocked in Banjo-Tooie. That being Dragon Kazooie.

Then again don't quote me on this, because I myself am completely unsure.

[Rusty Bucket]

thanks to banjocracker for pointing out my mistake. Bottles does give you the code wishywashybanjo when you complete his minigames in Banjo's house. I editted my theory to include that.

to dragon bottles: i didn't mean that the ice key from BK was the only way to open the ice side of Hailfire Peaks. I meant that it was an alternate way to open it without having to get the BT ice key.

And to the everyone else: I'm aware that the washing machine was in Tooie, and that the sns eggs in tooie unlocked things like dragon kazooie, but when tooie was made, Rare had already given up on sns working, so they added new eggs. My thought is that these egg bonuses such as dragon kazooie were thought up after sns was aborted, and that the six original BK transformations were Rare's original idea as to how the sns eggs would work.

[Some_wierdGuy]

and the bee was also already in BT...

why would you want something you can already get?

[Rusty Bucket]

I realize the bee is in BT, but I'm saying that before the stop n swop idea was scrapped by rare that they didn't plan to have the washing machine or bee available without sns eggs.

[nmon67]

not likely but i guess one of the better recent theorie

[Deebs]

Originally Posted by pokemega32

And @ DragonBottles:

Wasn't the Polar Bear Banjo thing from a fake interview?

Yes, i was just exampling.