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Banjo Theories & Stop 'n' Swop SNS? Bottle's Revenge? Share your thoughts on the mysteries of the Banjo series and discuss the new Stop 'n' Swop features in Nuts and Bolts and the XBLA games |
View Poll Results: Do you think someone (probably Hatrick) will soon uncover SNS? | |||
Yes, I look forward to it | 54 | 71.05% | |
No, I don't believe a word of it | 22 | 28.95% | |
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll |
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I believe that what has been found already, is all that there is for us.
I know that Rare were wanting to disable the SnS feature because they didn't want the hackers getting the feature for free. It would ruin it...(for us). So that's why they just included the 2 Eggs that were in BK Ending w/Mumbo cutscene and the Ice Key. This was just an easy way out of it for Rareware. Include the eggs and ice key in BT. Without the original idea that they probably had for the BK-BT connections Regular 'Casual gamers' (which make up the most proportion of gamers) wouldn't think anything of the secrets that are available in BT currently. Mumbo said you must play BT to find out the secrets: We played BT, we got the secret items. So they've given us what they said in BK, the Ice Key and the 2 eggs. But we weren't officially given the sandcastle codes, that we really shouldn't of known. So they really owe us nothing. There original intentions via hacking do show 4 other eggs, so they had grander plans but they haven't continued on with them. Casual know no difference so they are only upseting the hardcore fanatics. But still we were told that we would collect the secrets in BK. Yet we weren't granted that ability officailly so there is a 99.9999999999999 chance that we will ever know the full story from Rare. Lets all hunt down ex-Rareware employees and bribe 'em maybe they'll spill the beans, even just a couple would make us/me happy? Free Radical watch out here we come. [/jk]
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ShadowManBETAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CzlT0_Ay7k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGBIntu_cjI Last edited by OmegaPirate; 31st August 2005 at 04:15 AM. |
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SNS will not be found in its full glory. But, even now small things are being discoverd. IE: The ice walls seemingly slide back and don't just vanish. Therefore, not everything has bound to have been found. In fact, a poll around its discovery is kind of dumb, as it can be found, and still is, in various ways.
Plus hatrick isn't trying to discover SNS in its working form, meerly information and clues as to how it was to work. And it's silly to say "I don't believe", cause as stated before, information has been found - scraps still are. Also, it is silly to vote "yes", because he isn't searching for the full SNS.
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I dont really have an opinion on whether or not we'll find SnS in complete working form. I have major doubts that any of it is still in BT, but then, I had the same doubts about bottles revenge...
I do think that we'll eventually get the BK end of it though. Unless it was disabled before BK's release, which I'm still skeptical about, considering how much of it WAS left in, we will probably find the BK side of it. Where it will go from there is anyone's guess... |
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You cannot find what is not there.
Really, why isn't there an option labled, 'It has already been found'? Closest thing was no, so I voted no. Really, I believe that if people continue to scrutinize BK for SnS, they might find little bits of things here and there... but I think we've got the most of it by now. It was supposed to connect to BT; it did not; there is no possible way it could function. However, I would be very happy to be proven wrong . You'll notice that (not to insult anyone's ideas) most of the long time members said 'no'... and I think they have a bit of a better understanding on SnS. I am by no means trying to put an end to anyone's search - speculate all you want. We all did it, now it's your turn. But me, I'm kind of through - I don't think there's any more to SnS than a small line of text in the code from Rare that says 'Ha ha! Gotcha!'. ...But then again, do we really want this great mystery to finally be solved? I mean, threads like this have been going on upwards four, nearly five years now. It'd never be the same without them, and the RWP would certainly die (unless B3 mentioned more about SnS). |
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Whether it be tomorrow or in 10 years, I'm sure someone will discover SNS's secrets completely or spill the beans. Hopefully it's not too long...
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yes indeed if what I'm about to say is true it has!
I'll go to the lounge then show you. Finally, after 7 long, gruelling years, the answer of Stop 'N' Swop is revealed! First off, beat Banjo-Kazooie with all 100 Jiggies, 900 Notes--e3verything. After you beat Gruntilda, and Mumbo has shown you the secret pictures, return to the Treasure Trove Cove. Type in the following code: CHEAT ICOULDNEVERDOITBEFORENOWPLEASELETMEOPENTHEVALLEYDO OR. If you typed the code in right, you'll here the Secret anthem, and a cutscene will start. Mumbo Jumbo will be standing at the unopenable door in Gobi's Valley. "Ah, bear and bird clever to find Mumbo magic spell." He will then begin a magic spell, and when he's finished, a giant beam will hit the door and it will be severly damaged. "Bear and bird must finish job," he will explain. When you arrive in the Valley, ride the magic carpets until you get to Mumbo at the door. Beak Barge it, and it will break down! Run inside and Mumbo will follow. Once you are inside, hit the button to open the sarcaphegous -- the Mystery Blue Egg! Once you have it, Mumbo will tell you to meet him in the entrance to Grunty's Lair. Once you arrive, the giant portait of the warty hag will be gone -- and there will be a room behind it! Run inside, it turns out to be a small machine room, and plop the Mystery Blue Egg on the corresponding pad. Jump on the Banjo pad and Mumbo will take the controls. "OK, in order to get Ice Key, you guys need help from ape friend. Please wait while the game dumps memory to the N64..." once it has finished, Mumbo will speak again, "OK, please insert Donkey Kong 64 within 60 seconds, or must start over." Do as he says! Once DK64 is in, you will automatically be in the Kongs jungle home. Climb up to Donkey Kong's house, and chat with him. Banjo will convince DK that they really need his help getting the Ice Key, and he will agree, and another memory dumping will have to take place. Once it's done, you'll be zapped away, and must insert BanjoKazooie within 60 seconds. You will appear back in the small machine room. Run to the Freezeezy Peaks, and once you're inside Wozza's Cave, switch to DK (L Button) and smash the Ice Wall. Grab the Ice Key and DK will be zapped back home. Return to the machine room, and put the Key on it's pad. Mumbo will press a few more buttons, and the sign on Sharkfood Island in TTC will be blown off, revealing a keyhole. The key will automatically warp to the Island, and raise it. Run to Treasure Trove Cove and jump into every nook, one by one, until you reach the top. The Pink Egg is yours. You can plop the final secret item on it's pad. (The other four, accesed by debug codes, are poison eggs, in the sense that they ruin the entire process and make it defunct.) You will have to switch to Banjo Tooie now. You will appear in the same spot as you were in BK, but in front of you will be the "Tooie-versions" of Banjo, Kazooie, and Mumbo. Mumbo will remark "Ignore any time paradoxes this would normally cause, and put the Eggs and Key on their new pads." Once you do, all the rocks in the lair will be blown up, allowing you to access each of the old levels! You may get one Jigsaw from each of the nine worlds (and one of the Lair's Jiggies) from BK, to add up to 10 extra jiggies! (If you have completed BT as well, you should now have one hundred Jiggies, and twelve in reserve -- two left over from BK and the ten you have just collected. Return to the top of the tower, and you will be greeted by a mind-controlled Bottles! He will lock off the very top with one last Jigsaw puzzle -- one requiring all twelve spare Jiggies. Curiously enough, it forms the image of the "Devil" Bottles. And you'll see why after you beat him (easy, considering you've got two Banjos, Kazooies and Mumbos.) His spirit will rise from his beaten body -- in demon form.He will send the BK Banjo and Kazooie back to their time, and he will send you back to the beginning of the game -- Sprial Mountain, directly after the opening video. He will do the speech seen on the Rare Witch Project. (www.rarewitchproject.com) and you and a friend can relive the game, with Devil Bottles! This new file will be on a "File Four" to the very far right of the Game Select menu -- with Devil Bottles' portait. This is all that Rare has released about SnS, and this may be all that there is to it. All I know now thogh, however, is this works, and I'm glad we know it does, after 7 long years. OK I didn't type this my freind cross stinger did can you try it? |
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I think that my freind is a load of bullsĀ£%*&!
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Its BS. The model for BK would need to be in DK64, and DKs model would need to be in BK, and they aren't.
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No for the simple fact that I don't think there is anything left of SNS to eb discovered, we've found all there is.
Doesn't mean I disapprove of what hatrick is up to, on the contrary I admire it. And if something gargantuan is discovered...oh well.
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It's still possible to find things related to SNS without there being any more actual data. Example, the possiblity of the ice chamber doors sliding apart.
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No i din't write this[type whatever]
If you don't belive me go to supercheats and look at n64 and go to banjo kazooie I'm not even a member there! |
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T3h 1ntr4\/\/3b 15 4l\/\/45 r1gl-lt!11!!11!
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